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Maybe he doesn't see it because he killed bin Laden and had his body sunk to the bottom of the ocean where sunlight doesn't reach.
Weren't those pictures and videos of the raid, his dead body and the burial at sea amazing??
Oh wait, there weren't any...
Yes, it's all a conspiracy, just like global warming. You're not a paranoid, delusional fuck. Not at all. You know you could stop the CIA from spying on you by using the microwave oven on your head. It fries the chips they implant in your brain.
AS I thought. Not only no answers, a bunch of dogma and an unwillingness to think about the questions his point of view raises.
Why do you want enemy invaders in your country Marcus? Are you a masochist, or do you just feel safe from them and hate the rest of us? Which is it?
It's not a "Race" thing. It's a culture thing. I say we welcome Arabs/pakis who denounce their horrible Islamist religion and embrace another religion. That's all it will take. Just renounce Islam and we will take you.
Otherwise, feel free to die for your beliefs IN YOUR OWN DAMN COUNTRY!!!! Don't bring that shit over here and expect US to die for your beliefs as well (in explosions).
Until the whole world recognizes that Islam is a horrible religion that is not to be tolerated, but quarantined like a deadly infectious disease, we will have no peace.
Well, there is no way to vet such a thing, there are no records, no papers, just bunch of people who simply "show up". But it doesn't stop political posturing by the left. Left really hates America.
Well, there is no way to vet such a thing, there are no records
you could check the tax records in beverly hills
in other words , the theory is that these 10,000 are not tired huddled masses, but rather rich enough to afford a get out of hell free card. just a guess, mind you.
Why do you want enemy invaders in your country Marcus? Are you a masochist, or do you just feel safe from them and hate the rest of us?
More thoughtful answers to my questions.
What does the world where most western countries agree Islam is evil and that Muslims are our enemy (and therefore ostracized to go live in some desolate corner in poverty until they can learn to play nice) look like ?
Like Britain or Germany circa 1975.
What does the world where billions of people are ostracized from participating in the family of nations look like ?
Not at all different. Islamic Literary, Scientific, Artistic, etc. contributions to the world in the past few centuries have been negligible. I seem to recall - I've posted it somewhere on this forum - that the only three categories where academics from Muslim nations have the most cited papers are in Camel Breeding (no joke, a Vet Researcher from Cairo), Desalination Plant Engineering, and (imagine this) Islamic Theology. You'd never know they were gone.
Is it a safer world ?
YES! Most of the world's current conflicts involve Islam. From Nigeria's Boko Haram to Uighurs in Xiang province of China.
How about this question. IS there a potential reward for risking a small number of murders in the west in exchange for helping Islam evolve out of their dark ages ?
The primary responsibility of any state is to protect it's citizens, not engage in social engineering - especially not outside it's own borders. Isn't engaging in social engineering outside your own borders the very definition of IMPERIALISM?
How do we help Muslims to evolve ?
The Security Council should confirm an Islamic-Civilization wide ban on arms and weapons platforms, then let them hash it out.
Are you sure that the best way is telling them to fuck off until they learn how to play well with others ?
Yes. It works in Star Trek. Prime Directive: Primitive Civilizations should not be contacted.
Is it a safer world ?
YES! Most of the world's current conflicts involve Islam. From Nigeria's Boko Haram to Uighurs in Xiang province of China.
Ostracizing them from most developed countries of the world countries does nothing to address this.
Are you sure that the best way is telling them to fuck off until they learn how to play well with others ?
Yes. It works in Star Trek. Prime Directive: Primitive Civilizations should not be contacted.
I guess if we were talking about leaving them on another planet that might make sense.
WOuld we even be civilized, if we hadn't had the chance to be somewhat prosperous ?
DOn't get me wrong, I'm not claiming that people living in inhospitable countries where there are not good opportunities and where the wealth is even more narrowly held in the hands of a few, and bullshit propaganda is used toward even worse ends than it is here, are our problem.
I don't claim to know the solution to all of this. But the current mania is far out of proportion to what history tells us about the ability of Muslims to live in countries they do not dominate, side by side with other people of other religions.
The wacko extremist beliefs have been pumped up in recent decades by the Saudis and maybe others, for reasons I don't understand. That is where our anger (or the UN's) should be directed. Not at all of Islam.
om most developed countries of the world countries does nothing to address this
Sure it does! Just like quarantining a colony of lepers addresses the leper problem. If one is cured, miraculously, then maybe they can leave the colony.
In fact, it's the easiest thing: just make a choice not to follow the teachings of an insane, pedophiliac, war-mongering camel jockey and you're "cured!"
The Islamic world is far too large to quarantine.
That kind of thinking is an example of American arrogance.
just make a choice not to follow the teachings of an insane, pedophiliac, war-mongering camel jockey and you're "cured!"
and then the others will try to kill you, since it is islamic law that anyone who attempts to leave must die, preferably in public, as an example to the others.
That kind of thinking is an example of American arrogance.
And thinking the Muslims - esp. the Somalis - are going to be instantly transformed into secular normal people simply by moving to the US isn't arrogance?
Retarded strawman.
Btw, I never suggested that there shouldn't be substantial vetting.
Btw, I never suggested that there shouldn't be substantial vetting.
How do you vet in a refugee camp, with real but bribed (ie indistinguishable from the real thing, on the right paper with the right stamps after slipping a Syrian Bureaucrat $50) documents? FBI Agents are going to go into Aleppo dodging bullets and artillery fire to interview neighbors and ex-employers cowering in basements - if they're still there are all?
How much will it cost?
Vetting refugee claimants in a civil war is totally impractical.
Daddy Tsarnev's brothers and relatives laughed at his claim they were oppressed. They said Tsarnev watched a lot of Baywatch and thought by moving to the US, he'd get a red sportscar and be famous. The Immigration Service believed his bullshit.
Finally, if they are "Moderate Muslims", wouldn't the worst thing to do would be to send all the non-crazies out to Europe, Canada, and the USA? Then the only people left in Syria would be the Fundamentalists.
Until the whole world recognizes that Islam is a horrible religion that is not to be tolerated, but quarantined like a deadly infectious disease, we will have no peace.
Well said. Thanks.
How do you vet in a refugee camp,
If they believe in the sharia laws, they are terrorists.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/11/world/middleeast/obama-directs-administration-to-accept-10000-syrian-refugees.html
sorry, but this is unacceptable. islam is utterly incompatible with democracy, freedom of speech, and freedom of religion.
sure, only 10% of them really really want to kill us, but that's still 1,000 people.
aid them somewhere else, just don't bring them here!