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Will Trump beat Hillary (if she is the nominee?)
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2016 Apr 27, 10:53am 20,290 views 65 comments
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zzyzzx
2016 Apr 28, 2:21pm
My hope is Trump breaks off Bernie, Cruz, and Kasich's numbers to make up the 10% deficit that Hillary has over him.
Trump is absolutely going to get most of those unaffiliated voters who couldn't vote in the closed primary states because they weren't a registered D or R. Those numbers are probably huge, and potentially big enough to give Trump a win in plenty of states. I suppose one could look at some of the closed primary states to see where their general election vote totals generally are and compare them to the primary totals to see what the numbers of non-affiliates voters are and guess how many more potential votes for Trump there are in those states.
MisdemeanorRebel
2016 Apr 28, 2:37pm
Hillary looks like she has 2 M more actual popular votes right now than Trump.
Democratic Primaries have higher participation overall than Republican ones.
Tenpoundbass
2016 Apr 28, 3:34pm
Plus, many of the primaries were closed, so the Indy's weren't able to have their voice heard. How will their votes enter into the mix?
I suppose one could look at some of the closed primary states to see where their general election vote totals generally are and compare them to the primary totals to see what the numbers of non-affiliates voters are and guess how many more potential votes for Trump there are in those states.
That's true as well. I wonder what is the split on life long independent voters like my self, that switched parties to be able to vote in the primaries.
vs those that say... "If Trump makes it to the election I'll vote for him."?
tatupu70
2016 Apr 29, 5:06am
For all those folks on here that think Trump doesn't have any skeletons that Dems will exploit in the general election:
Worthwhile reading.
And what do insiders think of a general election makeup?
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-november-insiders-222598
“There is positively no way for Trump to win in Pennsylvania,†said a Republican from that state.
“Trump cannot and will not carry Ohio,†a Republican from that state insisted. “He will do well in Appalachia and in the Mahoning Valley but he will get killed in the rest of the state. The danger for the GOP is losing Rob Portman which is a very real possibility under this match-up.â€
Added a Florida Republican, who like all participants was granted anonymity in order to speak freely, “Trump is grinding the GOP to a stub. He couldn't find enough xenophobic, angry white Floridians to beat Hillary in Florida if he tried.â€
MisdemeanorRebel
2016 Apr 30, 2:50pm
For all those folks on here that think Trump doesn't have any skeletons that Dems will exploit in the general election:
Unlikely. He's been a public figure and tabloid regular for around 30 years, or most of his adult life. His weddings, divorces, interventions, etc. have all been well documented.
The real news is that there are hundreds of thousands fewer Hillary voters in the 2016 Dem Primaries than in 2008. Big Enthusiasm Gap.
MisdemeanorRebel
2016 Apr 30, 2:53pm
I was comparing head to head votes at this point in time. TPB said Hillary had more than Trump, but if you look at total votes cast on the Repub and Dem sides, the total Repub votes exceed the Dems by 3 Million, but they've been diluted by all the candidates.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_vote_count.html
Thanks - I didn't realize this. This is really really bad news for the Hillary crowd, and the RCP Rep one doesn't include Rubio and Carson voters.
tatupu70
2016 Apr 30, 3:35pm
The real news is that there are hundreds of thousands fewer Hillary voters in the 2016 Dem Primaries than in 2008. Big Enthusiasm Gap.
Agreed--the problem for Trump is that he will bring as many Dems to the polls to vote against him as Hillary does to vote for her. Trump will generate the enthusiasm on both sides.
ChapulinColorado
2016 Apr 30, 3:41pm
"I don't have anything against Mr Trump, but I firmly believe he will be the death of the GOP, and possibly the nation as we know it."
Let's see....
Corrupt GOP...check
Corrupt Demo's...check
Corrupt POTUS...check
Corrupt SCOTUS...check
Corrupt Congress...check
Corrupt DOJ...check
Un-constitutional laws....check
Protesters waving "We Need Socialism" signs....check
Americans confused about which bathroom to use...check
Hitlery not in Prison...check
Corrupt Banksters not in prison....check
NSA Police State...check
My labor stolen by the government....check
I guess I would have to say: I'm looking forward to it!
GO TRUMP.........BURN IT TO THE GROUND
MisdemeanorRebel
2016 Apr 30, 5:03pm
Agreed--the problem for Trump is that he will bring as many Dems to the polls to vote against him as Hillary does to vote for her. Trump will generate the enthusiasm on both sides.
Assuming that those who say they prefer Hillary aren't just kinda apathetic voters who are just going along with the rest of the School Office, but when it comes down to it, they'll stop and bring Boston Market home and Netflix away instead of going by a polling station.
We'll know more after the Conventions. I suspect a lot of Bernie voters will have a problem voting for Crooked Hillary, the poster child of Money in Politics.
Shaman
2016 Apr 30, 5:36pm
GO TRUMP.........BURN IT TO THE GROUND
I'm with you. We couldn't really do much worse than our current crop of sociopaths ... I mean leaders.
Shaman
2016 Apr 30, 5:38pm
Crooked Hillary, the poster child of Money in Politics
She defines crooked politician in a way unequaled since Tammany Hall.
zzyzzx
2016 May 4, 6:24pm
Trump has so much material to work with, he's like a kid going to Disneyland! He can focus on a new scandal each and every day until Election Day and never hit the same scandal twice. Hillary's baggage could sink a battleship!
Trump is going to put Hillary's face next to the definition of nafta and run against that.......And probably win.
Because Trumps right- NAFTA is the worst trade agreement signed anywhere by anyone. What business does the American government have enriching Mexico? How does that help the US taxpayer in any conceivable way? Oh but it helps our corporations right? Only, they're ours one day and the very next day are just so happy to point out that they were really international all along and we're just a bunch of backwards hayseeds to have believed otherwise.
MisdemeanorRebel
2016 May 4, 6:29pm
Ever notice that Clintonite Reactionaries have nothing to say other than "Trump, baaaaaad. Drumpf, Small Hands."
What are Clinton's accomplishments? What bold stance did she take when it was unpopular or difficult to do so? What policies is she planning on changing or implementing?
Well, shes a woman, and the Clinton namesake. Thing is, Slick Willy doesnt seem so popular these days, or else we'd be seeing more of him.
ChapulinColorado
2016 May 4, 8:49pm
DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says
Just because I sit to pee doesn't mean I don't like to KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL! Oh, fuck, Rosie, catch me!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
A-pork-a-lips-now.... you have me rolling!
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Trump will blast Hillary's backing of job destroying trade deals, which will appeal to a good deal of the Rust Belt electorate. Hillary has a loyal following of women with a grudge man blaming career women, and uninformed African Americans. She also carries the close minded reflexively liberal and PC crowd. But can Trump bring on board enough of the anti-Hillary Democrat leaning independents and progressive Democrats, or Democrats of any stripe that just will not vote for a neocon warmonger with bizarre large bottom hiding clothes.
Grab the popcorn.