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Democratic Party infighting worsens, Media uses "Bernie=Violent" talking point

By HonkpilledMaster following x   2016 May 17, 3:47pm 10,418 views   31 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


Loud cursing, shouting, obscene gestures and vile insults, including crude comments about the female anatomy. It was all on display over the weekend as supporters of Bernie Sanders turned the Nevada State Democratic Convention into chaos.
"I was not able to stop these people for doing what they did," Boxer, a Hillary Clinton supporter, told CNN. "Apparently they've done it before. .... This group of about 100 were very vocal, and I can't describe it -- disrespectful doesn't even explain it, it was worse than that."
READ: Changing super delegate rules would still leave Sanders behind
Boxer is hardly the lone Clinton supporter to experience such harassment on the campaign trail. Several top Democrats told CNN publicly and privately that the energy and enthusiasm of Sanders supporters has at times descended into incendiary attacks that threaten to tear apart efforts to unite Democrats against Donald Trump. Several female senators told CNN the attacks have been misogynistic.

What's more, many Democrats fear that if Sanders does not rein in his supporters, the same ugly scene that occurred in Las Vegas last weekend could replicate itself in the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.
"He should get things under control," Boxer said of Sanders, saying it was worse than the vitriol during the Bush-Gore 2000 recount. "We're in a race that is very critical. We have to be united. He knows that. I have in fact, called him a couple times, left a couple messages. I'm hopeful he can get control of this."
Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said "I do" when asked if Sanders should drop out of the race after voting concludes on June 7, giving Clinton a chance to "pivot" to the general election ahead of the July convention.


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/

Another one:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-fallout-nevadas-democratic-unrest

Love the anti-Bernie, pro-Hillary slants. Unmentioned in the article: Bernie's Nevada offices shot up, and the shenanigans around the Nevada Democratic Caucus (moving the date to UNLV Graduation day, last minute removal of credentials from pro-Bernie Delegates and refusing to hear challenges to the decertification, etc.)

1   Tenpoundbass   ignore (14)   2016 May 17, 3:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hell I coulda told you that. That Crotchety bastard sent the most rowdy NeverTrump folks of them all.

2   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 5:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

The Democratic establishment, the assholes who give the party a bad name, are scared shitless that Bernie might actually win the nomination. It's currently a nose-to-nose race in Kentucky (47.1% to 46.3%) and Oregon is expected to go Bernie. The narrow lead that Clinton has thanks to all the propaganda by major news outlets is fading. If it weren't for all that propaganda, Bernie would have slaughtered her.

3   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 5:45pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

The Democrat establishment is really stupid. Bernie wins in just about every swing state. Who cares which Democrat Kentucky chooses in the primary? Kentucky is voting Republican in the general election, so it doesn't matter. Same for Clinton's other victories.

If Clinton gets the nomination, there's a damn good chance we'll be saluting President Trump in 8 months. If Bernie gets the nomination, he wins the general election for sure.

4   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (41)   2016 May 17, 5:46pm   ↑ like (7)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The people want dead bankers.

6   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 5:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

It's fucking tied in Kentucky now!

7   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 6:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

It really doesn't matter at this point because the delegates will be split even. So it's up to Oregon to make a difference and if that stoner state votes Hillary then this country is just fucked up.

10   georgeliberte   ignore (0)   2016 May 18, 7:29am   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Another idea is to vote the Bern.

11   anonymous   ignore (null)   2016 May 18, 8:07am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Death threats and vandalism followed, prompting Nevada Democratic Party offices to close on Monday and its chairwoman, Roberta Lange, to release some downright disgusting voicemails and text messages she had received from Sanders supporters. She also reported threats against her grandchildren.

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This is false

But not surprising that an uninformed person like yourself would be gullible enough to lap up and regurgitate the Clinton narrative

12   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2016 May 18, 8:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hate speech, threat of terrorism. Actionable by enforcement. Great fodder for a News cycle. Not even 100% laughable either.

"This is a citizen of the United States of America and I just wanted to let you know that I think people like you should be hung in a public execution to show this world that we won't stand for this sort of corruption," an unidentified male caller said on the message, provided to CNN and other news outlets. "I don't know what kind of money they are paying to you, but I don't know how you sleep at night. You are a sick, twisted piece of s--- and I hope you burn for this! .... You cowardless b---, running off the stage! I hope people find you."
One text message read: "We know where you live... where your kids go to school/grandkids. We have everything on you."

Perhaps people see greater hope at this decision point than in the less entertaining elections.

13   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2016 May 18, 8:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Well, Barbara Boxer protects a lot of Bankers.

14   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2016 May 18, 9:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It is funny, when these creitns insulted Trump supporters and called them worse names-it was Trump's fault. Now that they turn their fury on Hillary-suddenly they are bad and the dem establishment asks Bernie to tone them down. Where were they when they were exhibiting much worse behavior on Trump supporters. Somebody put a grave marker or some such for trump in central park. His son and sister got white packets with threats that next time it would be real.

15   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2016 May 18, 10:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

It's not so funny in any sense of the word funny. It's dysfunctional and typical. Here again we see Money equalling speech with the entrenched Dem party elites blasting the air with their butt hurt, as if the demonstrators are the only problem, not any core issues, no, that's certainly no problem there. If only these rude persons would stop becoming visible and complaining about the party's desire to eliminate the rogue candidate. This scenario looks way too familiar in today's America: power talking down to the little people, and some are bad little people tsk tsk. Count on the cops, the private cops, the body guards, the secret cops, the ATF cops, the SWAT cops with their war surplus to rescue the elites from the pitchforks and escort them into their limos and jets.

The Nevada Democratic Party also took some time yesterday to publish a piece explaining that, despite the near-riot on Saturday, and death threats that have followed, the convention was actually fair to Sanders and his supporters.

Last night, the state party also lodged a formal complaint with the Democratic National Committee against the Sanders campaign. It concluded:
“The people who fostered, encouraged, and gained from the unsettling scenes at the Nevada State Democratic Convention bring dishonor and discredit to our state and national parties. Having seen up close the lack of conscience or concern for the ramifications of their actions – indeed, the glee with which they engaged in such destructive behavior – we expect similar tactics at the National Convention in July.”

lostand confused says

It is funny, when these creitns insulted Trump supporters

I sometimes wonder whether Obama was put into office as a test, to act as a canary in the coal mine by pre-emptively provoking the radical right wing. It's been commonly published that the FBI et. al. is way more afraid of the radical right than they ever were of islamic terrorists. I mean in the past there have been problems with presidents getting assassinated and at least shot at. So it's as if the pricks at Goldman Sachs made a side bet that today's security forces are so good that they could put a nigger in the White House and he doesn't get assassinated. (yuk yuk) Now, since they proved that scenario, QED it's now so safe to sit as POTUS that one of the oligarchs can take the office himself.

... Next thing you know here comes Trump like "You all can sit this one out 'cause I'm going to save you all from people like me, watch me make America great again" oh yeah right. Y'all can depend on him ... he's a good old boy ... WTF!!!!!!

Bingo: the big overarching agenda of eliminating the power of "government of the people." This is another step in the destruction of government itself, which we are supposed to believe is inept, expensive and we can't afford it. Corporations if left unchecked are going to have their own armies anyway if you look at history. Elites are really bucking to BE THE GOVERNMENT.

Corruption: we will stand still for it. And we prove it every day. Cops show up and beat up some protesters and haul them off and that is the end of it. It barely makes any news. That Occupy movement was different, they were lead by a very sophisticated organization, and still the media managed to make them look like a group of weirdos who want something unexplainable anyway. You can't expect a lot of protest groups to be so well choreographed as they were, protesting is a tricky treacherous business.

It's like the unions are gone once the government is gone there will be no framework for people to have any legitimate voice to counterbalance the might of these corporations that were set up to benefit the public in the first place. The way people talk about the government I think we are falling fast and this scenario will progress mostly unchallenged.

No more billions in mass media no dumb down potential opposition, no more having to bribe these pricks that hold office, think of the efficiency. All necessary enforcement is already built in to the landscape and is mostly self-supporting by their local takings. Did you think the elites were not driving for this outcome all along? Why not?

16   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2016 May 18, 10:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Damn! Come to think of it wouldn't a nice little "black swan" event be the perfect juncture for the elites to swoop in to "save us all" and "make America great again" by establishing corporate rule?

Hmm, a financial crisis due to insufficient government liquidity to conduct the routine business of government. A national crop failure brought on by climate change, drought, empty store shelves, sudden rise in the oceans, BOOM martial law.

Corporations are the only entities that can afford to write the checks for routine governance. (drawn against their offshore riches)

BOOM 100% direct corporate governance: of course there probably won't be any more medicare, public health, public schooling, social security, etc., and ALL those substantial core issues the Republicans have been complaining about. In fact the Republican party will have outlived it's usefulness. They'll broadcast that all those tax funded public benefits are being studied by "a blue ribbon committee" to propose a potential date to phase them back in. Meanwhile you will have so many other serious problems that you will hardly miss all that stuff after a while.

What are we going to do start protesting once they have the streets under martial law, and the detainment camps in full operation? DIE, COMMUNIST!

I bet there will still be taxation though ... paid directly to corporate designees to pay for the engorged military operations on all fronts.

17   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2016 May 18, 10:48am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Democrats will get women votes because they are not sexists:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-governor-more-ugly-women-attractive-women-us-172106571--election.html?ref=gs
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Former Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell says Donald Trump's past comments on women will likely come back to haunt him because Rendell says "there are probably more ugly women in America than attractive women."

The Democrat was offering his thoughts to The Washington Post on the likely Republican nominee's prospects for success in the Philadelphia suburbs when he made the comment. Rendell says Trump's comments might gain him some working-class Democratic voters, but will cost him Republican women because he says "people take that stuff personally."

18   Strategist   ignore (2)   2016 May 18, 10:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz music says

This scenario looks way too familiar in today's America: power talking down to the little people, and some are bad little people tsk tsk. Count on the cops, the private cops, the body guards, the secret cops, the ATF cops, the SWAT cops with their war surplus to rescue the elites from the pitchforks and escort them into their limos and jets.

Spoken like a true Comrade.

jazz music says

I sometimes wonder whether Obama was put into office as a test

Obama was elected by the average Joe's.

jazz music says

Corruption: we will stand still for it. And we prove it every day. Cops show up and beat up some protesters and haul them off and that is the end of it. It barely makes any news. That Occupy movement was different, they were lead by a very sophisticated organization, and still the media managed to make them look like a group of weirdos who want something unexplainable anyway. You can't expect a lot of protest groups to be so well choreographed as they were, protesting is a tricky treacherous business.

What do you think the cops do to protesting and starving Venezuelans?

19   Quigley   ignore (0)   2016 May 18, 12:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

Bernie has no chance of winning. Just look at the odds.

Donald Trump had no chance of winning six months ago. Now he is at even odds of being our next POTUS.

20   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2016 May 18, 12:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says

Donald Trump had no chance of winning six months ago. Now he is at even odds of being our next POTUS.

Yeah but repubs don't have superdelegates. Without superdelegates, Hillary and Bernie are actually much closer. Perhaps that is Bernie's plan-shame the superdelegates into voting for him.

21   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2016 May 18, 12:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says

there are probably more ugly women in America than attractive women."

I can vouch for that!

22   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2016 May 18, 12:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

Spoken like a true Comrade.

What does that even mean? If you have a comment or a question or something coherent to say, then get out of your own head enough to actually say it.

Strategist says

Obama was elected by the average Joe's.

You imply that media wasn't the manipulator of the average Joe and I am not so convinced. There are algorithms and data sets that correlate mass messages with resulting effect on public actions. I'm saying that it MIGHT BE true that average Joe's action is mathematically predictable enough to say that a certain amount of money input equals a certain political race outcome, and that Obama's administration was preordained as a social experiment on the efficacy of security forces for protecting the POTUS from assassination. --but you knew that

I think the cops perform similar functions since before the time of Christ. Again, did you have a comment?

23   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2016 May 18, 12:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says

more ugly women in America than attractive

Hehe, women can look as beautiful (read powerful) as they feel the need to ... and they are not likely very comfortable looking that way, so when it's mission accomplished, it's back to the look of comfort as extreme as is practical for their continued "happiness."

24   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2016 May 18, 3:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

jazz music says

women can look as beautiful (read powerful)

Looking powerful and looking beautiful are not the same thing. Case in point...


Hulk smash

Actually, She-Hulk looked a lot more feminine.


I'll be in my bunk.

And no, that's not photoshopped. The woman's name is Roth Christine who would be hot if she didn't look like Arnold Schwarzenegger from the neck down.

Not beautiful at all, but damn she does look powerful.

25   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2016 May 18, 3:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dan8267 says

Case in point...

oh hahaha

26   Ceffer   ignore (2)   2016 May 18, 7:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

No successful socialist/communist Great Paradise begins without the liquidation of 30 percent of the greedy, overreaching, class besotted, over-intelligent populace.

27   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2018 Mar 4, 3:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Amusing that CNN was panning Bernie Supporters for low-brow Vagina Rhetoric.

Then turned around a few months later in January 2017 and just gushed with support and love for "Pussy Hats"
28   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Mar 4, 5:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Considering WikiLeaks revealed moveon.org HRC supporters were dressing as Bernie supporters, this reporting seems suspect at best. It shows how leftists will turn their "DEPLOREABLES" propaganda on each other as needed.

I don't know how anyone goes for this BS. I legit feel bad for the left, they are disgustingly brainwashed.
29   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Aug 1, 7:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The Infighting has only just begun.

The past two nights were a battle as to who represents the Far Left.

The Old Guard Dems see it, but the Squad is on the attack.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/455849-democrats-express-alarm-over-debates-negative-tone
30   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2019 Aug 2, 8:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
The Infighting has only just begun.

The past two nights were a battle as to who represents the Far Left.

The Old Guard Dems see it, but the Squad is on the attack.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/455849-democrats-express-alarm-over-debates-negative-tone


Aren't all primary debates bruising? Why would this one be any different?
31   OccasionalCortex   ignore (3)   2019 Aug 2, 1:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
Aren't all primary debates bruising? Why would this one be any different?


Because the Dems really are undergoing drastic change. Have been going on for a while, but truly becoming apparent to everyone as things come to real head now. Same for the GOP. Both are ideological variants of populist backlash against the 'Old Guard' elites that have so mismanaged things both in the parties as well as in governing the nation.

This shows clearly in what we saw in the GOP debates in 2016 and in the Dem debates happening now.

There are differences. For one thing, with the Dems there is a strong element of generational warfare involved. Not so much like you see in the GOP, where it is simply non-RINOs trying to purge RINOs no matter what the respective age difference (if any) between the two factions there are. This is why most Tea Party events were people in their 50s or older, yet they were the resurgents that scared the crap out of the GOP elites, remember? This isn't a hard and fast difference, as Bernie's support demonstrates. But look at the age range of the Squad and 'future Sqaddies' vs Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Dem Old Guard! And then this schism shows up even more so among Democrat voters themselves, with older Democrats preferring Biden & more DINOism than younger voters who want pure 'shoot-all-who-resist-into-the-ditches' Full Metal Socialism.

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