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MisdemeanorRebel
2017 Aug 28, 10:57am
That's hardly surprising, most parties want to deny their opponents more terms. I guarantee there have been high ranking Democrats saying they want to deny Reagan or Bush (or Eisenhower) a second term.
Paul Ryan has worked with Obama to have a non-budget year after year.
Republicans in the Senate, like McCain, who campaigned on Repealing the Aetnacare Subsidy, find reasons not to do so.
Republicans in both Houses that support the Wall and Border Controls, never fund anything (for many years now). Indeed, the often lift H1B caps.
"Managed Democracy"
And all this while they have a majority.
It's because they're the Controlled Opposition, which is why they like Issues like Abortion and Euthanasia so much. They don't have to do anything "Real" "Bread and Butter" to generate votes with the base. They hate dealing with Immigration and Economic Nationalism, because they and their Donors secretly agree with it.
MisdemeanorRebel
2017 Aug 28, 11:00am
It's an average swing of +14 points or so toward Dems.
In a race without an incumbent and, in Georgia, no primary, which is why it's a special election. It can't be compared to a regular scheduled election that generally has both a primary AND an incumbent.
It's like comparing a meal eaten by Texans in a power outage versus one eaten with power. "Oh look, the lack of beef during Harvey is a foreshadowing that Texans are becoming more vegetarian."
"In a race without an incumbent and, in Georgia, no primary, which is why it's a special election. It can't be compared to a regular scheduled election that generally has both a primary AND an incumbent."
OK, feel free to make excuses for why Reps have lost 14 pts. on average in the special elections. But I'll continue to look forward to the mid-terms.
Dan8267
2017 Aug 28, 1:16pm
It occurred to me that ever since the Democrats abandoned their representation of working people in favor of non-stop identity politics, there has been a vacuum.
Patrick says
In steps Donald Trump, and starts saying exactly what the Democrats have failed to say:
* American workers have been badly screwed by globalization, particularly the wholesale shipping of US manufacturing to China.
* Illegal aliens drive down wages for poor US citizens.
* Obamacare has dramatically increased the cost of medical insurance, to the point where insurance for a family of four can easily be greater than rent or a mortgage.
The country would have been far better off if Bernie was nominated by the DNC. They really shot themselves in the foot.
Hopefully this defeat will force reform in the Democratic Party. I guarantee you even if you believe Trump actually gives a shit about you -- he doesn't -- and that he will do what he says -- so far he hasn't -- and that he actually succeeds in doing so -- he won't -- even if all those things were true, the Republican Party still will not be reformed by Trump. You cannot get reform from a criminal con artist who cares only about himself. And the Republican Party won't change for the better even if a reformer got to be president under their party. It's not going to happen.
Unless you are in the top 0.1%, the Republican Party does not work for you. Even if you own your own business, the Republican Party works AGAINST YOU because it protects big business, not small business. Small business is a threat to big business and must be kept down. Big business is all that matters to the Republican Party, not your sole proprietor or small business.
The Republican Party will never reform. The only two choices are
1. Rewrite the election laws so that third parties can kill both major parties.
2. Reform the Democratic Party.
Of those two options, (1) is not realistic without violent revolution because the rewriting of the election laws can only be done by the two major parties and neither will enact reforms that are against their selfish interests.
The idea that Trump is going to reform the Republican Party is pure fantasy. And as much as you and I hate identity politics, it's nothing compared to the evils of the Republican Party. Identity politics cannot compare to
- pollution
- climate change
- national security threats
- the threat of nuclear war
- anti-human rights judges on the Supreme Court
- universal domestic spying
- the police state
- economic policies and laws that crush the middle class and give all wealth and power to a few families
Asking Trump to reform the Republican Party is like asking Bill Cosby to reform the Catholic Church's sexual behavior. Sure, Cosby may be an outsider with vastly different experiences, but he's hardly the person for the job.
PeopleUnited
2017 Aug 28, 6:37pm
The country would have been far better off if Bernie was nominated by the DNC.
So what you are saying that that if Democrats weren't batshit crazy, Trump would still be living in his tower in NYC.
Way to go Democrats. Now quit your whining and own it. You have given us Trump. You have the president you deserve. Now go back to your safe zone and Daily Show.
lostand confused
2017 Aug 28, 7:54pm
It occurred to me that ever since the Democrats abandoned their representation of working people in favor of non-stop identity politics, there has been a vacuum.
Gentle Reader,
Yes, that is correct. My wife predicted that Turnip, er, Trump would be elected. She kept saying Brexit was the reason.
Simply put, the top like 1% of the nation own more property and assets than the bottom 90% or something like that.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/nov/13/us-wealth-inequality-top-01-worth-as-much-as-the-bottom-90
The result shouldn't have surprised anyone, but it did. I was certainly surprised.
Regards,
Roidy
NDrLoR
2017 Aug 30, 11:13am
Simply put, the top like 1% of the nation own more property and assets than the bottom 90% or something like that
That's why they're the top 1%.
"That's why they're the top 1%."
Uh, OK. They were still the 1% in 1960 but they held a MUCH smaller percentage of the property and assets.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2017 Aug 30, 1:34pm
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If Trump refused to condemn Neo-Nazis by name shortly after Charlottesville, it makes him a neo-Nazi...
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So much winning, you'll grow tired of it. It must be exhausting
Dan8267
2017 Aug 30, 1:49pm
What is the Democratic Platform?
1. Support the upper middle class. Screw everyone else.
2. Don't destroy the planet with pollution and uncontrolled climate change.
3. Don't shoot unarmed cooperating black men.
4. Identity politics
joeyjojojunior says
What is the Republican Platform?
1. Support the richest 0.1%.
2. Destroy the middle class and all workers including high skill STEM workers.
3. Fuck the planet.
4. Shoot as many black men as possible.
5. Turn America into a theocracy.
MisdemeanorRebel
2017 Aug 30, 1:59pm
You forgot #5 for the Democrats: Refuse Single Payer, institute subsidies for Health Insurance Companies, with no cost or premium increase controls.
Even though everybody except the 1% in the US wanted Banks to be whipped and re-regulated back to the New Deal standards.
MisdemeanorRebel
2017 Aug 30, 2:00pm
So much winning, you'll grow tired of it. It must be exhausting
In other words, you have no answer to a Oligarch Media / AltLeft double standard.
Winning it is. 3% Quarterly Growth, NAFTA on the ropes, tons of new jobs and manufacturing.
Trump is ushering in a New Party System, which neither Dem nor Rep Establishment wants; they like the Culture War, because they can distribute freely to wealthy Donors while distracting with Abortion, Hippies vs. Cowboys, Muh Identity, etc and other shit that doesn't really matter.
"You forgot #5 for the Democrats: Refuse Single Payer, institute subsidies for Health Insurance Companies, with no cost or premium increase controls. Even though everybody except the 1% in the US wanted Banks to be whipped and re-regulated back to the New Deal standards"
You're funny. It's true that some percentage of elected Dems didn't want single payer. But 100% of Republicans are against it. As is Trump.
Why don't you vote for more progressive Dems in the primaries? That's how you're going to get politicians with the same views as you.
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Democratic leaders assumed that working class and poor white people would simply continue to vote Democratic even while being demonized by their own party, since the Republicans remained the party of capital as ever, and still do not really represent working class and poor people. But this left poor whites, and poor white men in particular, with no representation in either party.
In steps Donald Trump, and starts saying exactly what the Democrats have failed to say:
* American workers have been badly screwed by globalization, particularly the wholesale shipping of US manufacturing to China.
* Illegal aliens drive down wages for poor US citizens.
* Obamacare has dramatically increased the cost of medical insurance, to the point where insurance for a family of four can easily be greater than rent or a mortgage.
The Democrats say that manufacturing is not possible for our economy anymore, but the massive examples of Japan and Germany doing just fine on modern manufacturing prove them wrong. What working whites hear is that the Democratic Party really doesn't care what happens to them, and maybe actually hates them just for their race or gender.
So whether by luck or skill, The Donald actually says the truths that Democrats still fail to acknowledge. Thus his "inexplicable" popularity among poorer white voters, who are then demonized yet again as racists by the Democrats, simply for wanting some representation in government.
I keep trying to understand exactly what happened, and I think this is a fair explanation. Trump needed to declare himself a Republican to get access to the party machinery, but in reality, he is a one-man Labor Party, something America has been missing.