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War Between North Korea and the United States Is Inevitable


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2017 Sep 20, 4:34am   42,628 views  146 comments

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War Between The United States And North Korea Is Inevitable

I have been warning everyone for weeks that a miscalculation or a mistake is going to lead to a war between the US and North Korea that will result in the use of nuclear weapons in battle for the first time since 1945.
I promised myself that I would not watch the Ken Burns series Vietnam. After all, I had four friends killed there and some friends wounded. A Purple Heart certificate sits on the wall in my study. I broke the promise to myself. I watched the first two episode of the series yesterday. I focused on how four U.S. presidents saw Vietnam. Let me summarize what I saw:
President Eisenhower: He gave France hundreds of millions of dollars in support to keep them fighting in Vietnam. At one point, he was financing 80% of France’s costs to fight the war. France had over 100,000 casualties in Vietnam. President Eisenhower would not send US troops. He decided that the war was unwinnable.
President Kennedy: One quote in the show was most telling as follows:
“These people don’t like us. But if Vietnam falls to the Communists, I will lose the 1964 election.”
At the John F. Kennedy Library, I purchased a book: Vietnam Had Kennedy Lived. This is some heavy reading and quite scholarly. The conclusion is that Kennedy would have stayed in Vietnam until after the 1964 election and then started to wind down US involvement even if the North Vietnamese won.
President Johnson: Despite his humble background and education, Johnson’s biographer Doris Kearns Goodwin described him as a political genius. Johnson believed in The Domino Theory. In other words, if South Vietnam fell, Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, etc. would follow.
President Nixon: Alan Greenspan described Nixon as a dark and troubled man with a brilliant mind. President Nixon was a master of foreign affairs. He too believed in the Domino Theory.
With Johnson and Nixon strong believers in the Domino Theory, it was inevitable that Vietnam would be a long and a bloody war for the USA. North Vietnam won at the cost of some 3.25 million people killed. 20% of their territory is a “no man’s land” due to land mines and poisonous chemicals. After the Vietnam war ended in 1975, an additional 50,000 Vietnamese civilians were killed by land mines and unexploded ordinance.
Let us go to the present. Everyone thinks that Donald Trump is wild and irresponsible. Even if Hillary Clinton or Mike Pence were president, a war with North Korea would be inevitable. It would escalate to a nuclear conflict. The mindset is there as it was in Vietnam. It will start with some mistake or misunderstanding. It will quickly escalate into a nuclear exchange because that sort of firepower will be needed to destroy North Korea’s military capabilities.
Let me expose some fallacies as follows:
1) Kim Jung Un and his senior management team are phantoms hiding in heavily-fortified bunkers all the time. Wrong, they do appear in public. Rest assured that the following countries have “eyes on” Kim and his management team 24 hours a-day seven days a week:
The US
Japan
South Korea
China
Israel (Due to fear of North Korea sharing its nuclear technology with Iran.)
The dream of all these countries would be a stealth drone strike that would kill Kim Jung Un and his management team. If this happened the country would collapse.
2) Massive nuclear weapons will have to be employed with casualties in the range of 25 million plus. Nuclear weapons will be employed to “take out” military targets. My educated guess is one million casualties.
3) South Korea and Japan will be heavily damaged. There will be some casualties and damage in South Korea and Japan. China should be very concerned. When things get really irrational, North Korean nuclear weapons and poison gas might be used against China.
What will follow will be a temporary fall in world financial markets with a nasty recession to follow. Violent protests will erupt all over the world. These protests will make the Vietnam War protests seem pale in comparison.

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41   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 5:30am  

The president of soko is "the right"?
42   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 5:33am  

Feux Follets says
Last time I'm going to let one of these slide - than it's in the personal bin for you.


Lolz, asking for evidence to support a thesis is personal?

I'll ask again. Go find an example of MSM praising Trump for this monumental accomplishment. (I don't think you can.)
43   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 5:40am  

Feux Follets says
This is a bit beyond MAGA and Winning



Every bit of this is maga and winning. What do you think Trump was negotiating during his china trip back in November? What do you think they discussed over dinner in the forbidden city?
44   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 5:55am  

Feux Follets says
CBOEtrader says
What do you think they discussed over dinner in the forbidden city?


Making more cheap shit with the Trump label at an even lower cost to sell to naïve Americans ?

The possibility of a Trump branded hotel or casino in Tiananmen Square ?

Where is the nearest McDonalds since Potus probably doesn't know how to use chopsticks ?

How come everyone looks funny, talks funny and smells funny and that was just Xi Jinping and his countrymen on the Trump entrouge.


CNN #fakenews would be proud.
45   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 5:57am  

www.youtube.com/embed/QYhuKgv6KhQ

Here's a Bernie supporter suggesting Trump wins the Nobel peace prize if NK peace treaty is completed.

I agree, he should win the peace prize if he can follow through with this successfully.
46   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 6:05am  

Feux Follets says
Made all that stuff up


At least yours had comedic punch. CNN is just sad
47   Y   2018 Mar 9, 6:12am  

The world cannot police itself without a top cop.
The more contries have nukes the more likely they will be used.

Feux Follets says
CBOEtrader - How come everyone else has to give up their nuclear ambitions but we get to increase ours ?
48   Y   2018 Mar 9, 6:15am  

Looking for fairness or equality regarding nukes is an extinction level pursuit...
49   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 6:17am  

Feux Follets says
Potus is not particularly adept at keeping his mouth shut at the necessary times


Feux Follets says
the west is not adept at negotiating and letting someone save face


Trump is a unique force as compared to "the west". Watch him operate during bipartisan negotiations. No president has ever been as much of a bipartisan leader as Trump. He does seem to know when to turn on the Twitter corkskrews vs graciously allowing others to run w the ball.

Your China example above is exactly what I'm talking about. Trump went to China and asked them how to solve the problem, then asked them to manage the process. He didn't dictate, he negotiated.

He will do the same w soko/china and the rocket man peace negotiations. Afterwards he will praise Kim publicly (allowing him to save face) and enraging fake news CNN.

Watch. This is getting too predictable.
50   HeadSet   2018 Mar 9, 6:18am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Don't think China didn't tell Kim he had to concede

Yep. Two major tools President Trump has:

1. Restrict and/or tariff China'a access to the US market, a card he seems to be playing now
2. Encourage Japan to expand its military, including possible nukes. PM Abe and Japan itself are much less pacifist than before
51   Y   2018 Mar 9, 6:29am  

The concept behind MAGA is to reverse The March towards 3rd world status.
How this is accomplished can be debated but make no mistake , without MAGA ...
Feux Follets says
Has more wisdom and patience to step back and observe before making any moves, has been around much longer than the U.S. and will most likely be around as going concern after the U.S. has passed on to 3rd world status.
52   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 9, 9:27am  

Feux Follets says
Diplomat Magazine


Still a major breakthrough, no matter how much the Chinese are pretending they're doing it for goodwill and happiness and not because the "Iron Fisted" Trump was threatening a boatload of Tariffs and Trade Restrictions from their #1 Export Destination without which their economy is in big trouble. Meanwhile the "Velvet Gloved" Trump is willing to let China claim credit and build prestige if they assist with North Korea.

No other US Administration has gotten so close to resolving the problem in the past 20 years.

When you hear neoliberal propaganda about German Cars being "Needed" in the UK or Americans "Needing" Chinese goods, just remember: 1 in every 7 domestically produced German Cars is sold in the UK. China is unbelievably dependent on US Exports for tens of millions of jobs and hundreds of billions of US Dollars each year.
55   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 9, 10:32am  



You know, Nuclear Proliferation and a 12-year old Affair. Kinda on the same level of importance.

Fake Fuckin' News. Very Fake.
56   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 9, 10:35am  



The Stormy Daniels piece went before the North Korea piece.
57   Strategist   2018 Mar 9, 10:56am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says


You know, Nuclear Proliferation and a 12-year old Affair. Kinda on the same level of importance.

Fake Fuckin' News. Very Fake.


The bias by CNN against Trump is obvious and pathetic. Not professional journalism at all.
58   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 12, 12:08pm  

Feux Follets says
It wasn't Trump. It isn't about Trump. Their is a world out there that exists quite nicely without Trump and right now would probably function a lot smoother as well, should he not be around. Same with anything Clinton, Bush, or any other political dynasty or "American Royalty" but again lets overlook the key players who are politely modest and actually doing the work.


So Trump's team got the job done. Who picked Trump's Team?

Obama certainly had no breakthroughs. He gave Kim Jong-Un 240,000 tons of food, and Kim kept testing nukes and missiles.

Speaking of the world out there, Neoliberal Globalists are being shown up everywhere, all the time. On Trade, On Foreign Policy, On the Economy. Their failed policies are revealed for the con job they were, rather than an accurate response to reality.

Whether it's the undeniable reform in Saudi Arabia, or the new willingness of North Korea to negotiate, or the near-total obliteration of ISIS (what Obama dismissed as "The JV Team" just before they conquered half the Levant months later) from Iraq and Syria, we are getting positive results.

Remember when Obama went to China for G20 and he was snubbed, yet instead of getting back in the plane and leaving, he bowed even lower?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/04/barack-obama-deliberately-snubbed-by-chinese-in-chaotic-arrival-at-g20
59   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Mar 12, 12:14pm  

Feux Follets says
Strategist says
Not professional journalism at all.


Breitbart, Alex Jones, Gateway Pundit , Rush etc. are professional ?


Which one of these has a major network tv show and was lauded as unbiased reporting for years?
60   mell   2018 Mar 12, 2:04pm  

Strategist says
TwoScoopsPlissken says


You know, Nuclear Proliferation and a 12-year old Affair. Kinda on the same level of importance.

Fake Fuckin' News. Very Fake.


The bias by CNN against Trump is obvious and pathetic. Not professional journalism at all.


Agreed.
61   mell   2018 Mar 12, 2:04pm  

It's inevitable btw sez the lamestream media! Any day now...
62   Y   2018 Mar 18, 7:06am  

Nothing wrong with talking to kim.
Libbies would rather deny kim the PR bonanza then have a chance for real progress on the k'ninsula...
Arguments that shit could go wrong ring hollow on the eve of NK achieving intercontinental missile technology.
63   Y   2018 Mar 18, 7:08am  

Going back to the ice age, war has always been part of the human experience.
And it will always be as long as there are people and countries bent on taking your shit...

Feux Follets says
64   Y   2018 Mar 18, 7:09am  

LIbbies would rather deny trump political success than have a chance for real progress on the k'ninsula...

BlueSardine says
Libbies would rather deny kim the PR bonanza then have a chance for real progress on the k'ninsula...
65   Y   2018 Mar 18, 7:11am  

Risk is a component of most successful endeavors.
How many successful space shuttle launches were there compared to the ones that crashed?
Why do libbies hate risk?

Feux Follets says
As soon as John Bolton gets on board, all systems are go just like in the Challenger, "Challenger, go at throttle up
66   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 18, 8:50am  

When he was busy being tough, they said it was dangerous. He's being too tough.

When he tried to get China to help, they said it wouldn't happen. Then it did.

When he arranged for negotiations and received a voluntary testing ban until then, they're saying it's a nothing burger.

Even though neither bush nor Obama got anywhere, we're told this is so easy anybody could have done it.

It's amazing what happens when you dump the elite neoliberal party.

Oh, and state is still way understaffed.
67   🎂 RWSGFY   2018 Mar 18, 9:42am  

Feux Follets says


Fucking Hanoi Janes are getting fucking desperate.
68   Y   2018 Mar 18, 11:20am  

LIbbies would rather deny talking out one's ass and spewing moomoo got L'll kim to the table.

Fivelbsbrowntrout says
BlueSardine says
LIbbies would rather deny trump political success than have a chance for real progress on the k'ninsula...

BlueSardine says
Libbies would rather deny kim the PR bonanza then have a chance for real progress on the k'ninsula...


When will rightists realize Donnie make moo from his mouth and talks out his ass
69   Y   2018 Mar 26, 7:32pm  

Libbies go first.
Lowbrows are always the most expendable...

Feux Follets says
And when the war starts, the Trump supporters should be rounded up and sent to Korea along with their NRA thought controllers, given AR-15s and be told to hold the line, the front line, not the line somewhere down south.


70   🎂 RWSGFY   2018 Mar 26, 7:45pm  

Feux Follets says
Trump supporters should be rounded up


Who's gonna do the rounding up? The little punks with see-through backpacks?
71   Patrick   2018 Mar 26, 7:48pm  

Feux Follets says
Trump supporters should be rounded up and sent to Korea along with their NRA thought controllers


I used to make the same assumptions, that there must be some "thought control" involved in getting people to support Trump or the NRA, but not anymore.

There are real and substantial issues that Trump merely tapped into. He didn't invent the issues, like the wholesale export of all our manufacturing to China, and the wholesale import of obedient slave labor willing to work for illegally low wages, and the resulting impoverishment of the entire middle of the country.

Same with the NRA. There are real issues behind the desire for guns that I urge you to consider. The coastal elite proves its contempt for the actual working people over and over daily, with its bogus charges of "racism", which are almost entirely projection of their own racism. I'm certain that they would round up and gas vast numbers of poor white people if they could get away with it. Guns are the in their way, which is why they hate public ownership of guns. If the Jews had had guns in WWII, the Holocaust would not have happened.
72   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 27, 5:53pm  

Feux Follets says
How did that work out for Poland ? They had guns, artillery, etc., same with a lot of other countries and the "Holocaust" still happened and caught up more than Jews.


You realize, of course, that Germany-Austria was more populous and better armed than Poland.

Poland also had a substantial German Population ready to collaborate.

The Holocaust did not begin until 1943, and for almost 4 years after 1939 the Germans had plenty of time to confiscate Rifles and Guns.

The French could have waltzed right into the Rhineland while the bulk of the Wehrmacht was in Poland, but they chose not to do so, because they hoped the Nazis and Soviets would fight while they sat back and laughed, then mopped up the exhausted victor (using WW1 as a benchmark, they figured whoever won would be so weak and low in manpower they couldn't resist long).

As for Jews, many Poles were antisemitic and, at best, thought the Jews Cowardly Yellow-Bellies so never gave them arms.

Of course today, antisemites think Jews are Mean Evil Ol' Bullies.
73   Strategist   2018 Mar 27, 8:35pm  

someone else says
Same with the NRA. There are real issues behind the desire for guns that I urge you to consider.

What are they?

someone else says
The coastal elite proves its contempt for the actual working people over and over daily, with its bogus charges of "racism", which are almost entirely projection of their own racism. I'm certain that they would round up and gas vast numbers of poor white people if they could get away with it. Guns are the in their way, which is why they hate public ownership of guns. If the Jews had had guns in WWII, the Holocaust would not have happened.

Really? The coastal elite would do that? And law enforcement would just stand by and let it happen? And not punish the murderers?
If the above is a valid reason by 2nd Amendment supporters, i'm even more convinced the 2nd Amendment needs to go.
74   komputodo   2018 Mar 27, 8:42pm  

ohomen171 says
War Between The United States And North Korea Is Inevitable

I have been warning everyone for weeks that a miscalculation or a mistake is going to lead to a war between the US and North Korea that will result in the use of nuclear weapons in battle for the first time since 1945.


How's the war going?
75   🎂 RWSGFY   2018 Mar 27, 8:55pm  

komputodo says
ohomen171 says
War Between The United States And North Korea Is Inevitable

I have been warning everyone for weeks that a miscalculation or a mistake is going to lead to a war between the US and North Korea that will result in the use of nuclear weapons in battle for the first time since 1945.


How's the war going?


Any second now.
76   Strategist   2018 Mar 27, 8:58pm  

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
komputodo says
ohomen171 says
War Between The United States And North Korea Is Inevitable

I have been warning everyone for weeks that a miscalculation or a mistake is going to lead to a war between the US and North Korea that will result in the use of nuclear weapons in battle for the first time since 1945.


How's the war going?


Any second now.


I don't want to miss the first shot. I'm staying awake watching CNN until it happens.
77   mell   2018 Mar 27, 9:01pm  

Strategist says
I don't want to miss the first shot. I'm staying awake watching CNN until it happens.


They lamestream got nothing. Instead Msnbc has dyke Maddow "reporting" 24/7 on Jared Kushner's real estate dealings - muh Russia! Can't escape this shit even on the treadmill.

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