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Patrick says

Also @WookieMan : note that moderators can now ban users from commenting in their topic for 24 hours.

Just go to their user page (click on their icon or name) and the ban link is at top. Let me know if it doesn't work.

Thanks for the suggestion, Goran.

I really don't want to use the feature but it's a necessary part of keeping things clean. Thanks for all the hard work Patrick.

Goran_K says

Patrick says

Also @WookieMan : note that moderators can now ban users from commenting in their topic for 24 hours.

Just go to their user page (click on their icon or name) and the ban link is at top. Let me know if it doesn't work.

Thanks for the suggestion, Goran.

I really don't want to use the feature but it's a necessary part of keeping things clean. Thanks for all the hard work Patrick.

No, it’s not. Patrick could simply ban the obvious trolls like CiC, but he doesn’t. That individual has done more than anyone to bring this site to its knees and yet Patrick just lets him roll back in, instead going down this path... in the process driving away two of the more interesting posters (what’s that, about 10% of the total regular posters?). He’s shooting himself in the foot once again. Things are just getting worse now with you trying to usurp more and more power. People will be up in arms for a while and then will simply drift away. You’ll be left with a small handful of right wingers posting fact free praise of your supposed great leader. And CiC will be long gone.

anon_d2af7 says

No, it’s not. Patrick could simply ban the obvious trolls like CiC, but he doesn’t. That individual has done more than anyone to bring this site to its knees and yet Patrick just lets him roll back in, instead going down this path... in the process driving away two of the more interesting posters (what’s that, about 10% of the total regular posters?). He’s shooting himself in the foot once again. Things are just getting worse now with you trying to usurp more and more power. People will be up in arms for a while and then will simply drift away. You’ll be left with a small handful of right wingers posting fact free praise of your supposed great leader. And CiC will be long gone.

Can someone tell me what CiC means or stands for?

Goran_K says

Can someone tell me what CiC means or stands for?

What does it matter? Are you pretending that you don’t know who that poster is? How many times have you asked this? How many times have people pointed out that you know fine well who it is? You have to laugh.

And it stands for call it crazy if I remember correctly, not that it matters a damn.

anon_d2af7 says

And it stands for call it crazy if I remember correctly, not that it matters a damn.

Thanks. Barely remember that guy. Him and Renting for half the cost used to be great allies I believe.

Goran_K says

You know what’s awesome about the new system? I’ll never be able to defend deleting a comment or banning anyone if a personal attack is not involved. It’s a pretty neat system.

Maybe that’s what has the leftists so up in arms. There’s an actual standard and the bar can’t be moved without it being noticeable.

Goran_K says

You know what’s awesome about the new system? I’ll never be able to defend deleting a comment or banning anyone if a personal attack is not involved. It’s a pretty neat system.

That's a great point.

Fucking White Male says

Goran_K says

You know what’s awesome about the new system? I’ll never be able to defend deleting a comment or banning anyone if a personal attack is not involved. It’s a pretty neat system.

Maybe that’s what has the leftists so up in arms. There’s an actual standard and the bar can’t be moved without it being noticeable.

I'm still baffled by this development, maybe I shouldn't but I would have not pegged everyone that invested in their views to cause such a rift when finally an objective standard is used - though I was fine with no (except for illegal stuff) moderation which is still my preference. Even if somebody would be baiting or polarizing, there is a rule in place that is easy to follow with a bit of self-control. The whole point of laws and rules is that they are not pegged to certain personalities ("asshole", "smug", "sjw" etc.). They simply are neutral and have to be followed by everybody. It would also be logical that mods would be chosen more or less randomly across the spectrum, similar to a jury.

anon_84d68 says

Errc was just making a point.

Errc was being vulgar, obnoxious, and rude. There are rules against uncivility around here and he broke them.

Onvacation says

anon_84d68 says

Errc was just making a point.

Errc was being vulgar, obnoxious, and rude. There are rules against uncivility around here and he broke them.

Apparently that doesn’t stretch to libtard comments, racism, etc., etc.

anon_98513 says

Onvacation says

anon_84d68 says

Errc was just making a point.

Errc was being vulgar, obnoxious, and rude. There are rules against uncivility around here and he broke them.

Apparently that doesn’t stretch to libtard comments, racism, etc., etc.

Why doesn't it stretch to libtard. It's name calling and uncivil so all comments with it should be marked uncivil.

You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

Onvacation says

anon_84d68 says

Errc was just making a point.

Errc was being vulgar, obnoxious, and rude. There are rules against uncivility around here and he broke them.

Since when?

I’ve been reading Patnet off and on since 2005. Patrick allowed a few posters to be so beyond rude and disruptive that it’s ridiculous to ask that all of a sudden, everyone else change course.

It’s akin to releasing the last few Jews from Auschwitz, and then telling them that their captors will be tasked with making sure that the Jews are civil. It’s an unrealistic expectation

Goran_K says

You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.

anon_98513 says

Goran_K says

You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.

Show me the post.

Goran_K says

anon_98513 says

Goran_K says

You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.

Show me the post.

Pretty much every post ever made by TPB for starters.

anon_98513 says

Goran_K says

anon_98513 says

Goran_K says

You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.

Show me the post.

Pretty much every post ever made by TPB for starters.

That’s not specific enough. We have a pretty good standard here of what gets zapped and what doesn’t. Show me a post and if it fails the standard, it gets zapped.

anon_98513 says

Goran_K says

You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.

So the actual problem isn’t the policy, it’s that you don’t understand the policy.

Or more accurately you’re playing at being obtuse because you think it makes a point(it doesn’t)

errc says

Patrick allowed a few posters to be so beyond rude and disruptive that it’s ridiculous to ask that all of a sudden, everyone else change course.

Maybe Patrick now wants a site where people are NOT vulgar, rude, and obnoxious.

I could be wrong about the vulgar part.

@patrick Do you consider vulgarity uncivil?

I do.

Onvacation says

errc says

Patrick allowed a few posters to be so beyond rude and disruptive that it’s ridiculous to ask that all of a sudden, everyone else change course.

Maybe Patrick now wants a site where people are NOT vulgar, rude, and obnoxious.

I could be wrong about the vulgar part.

@patrick Do you consider vulgarity uncivil?

I do.

Yeah, pretty much at the time he let CiC back. Oh, hang on...

Fucking White Male says

anon_98513 says

Goran_K says

You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.

So the actual problem isn’t the policy, it’s that you don’t understand the policy.

Or more accurately you’re plying at being obtuse because you think it makes a point(it doesn’t)

No, because the “rules” are not remotely applied even-handedly. The mere fact that you’ve popped up to chip in pretty much underscores my point given your posting history.

anon_98513 says

Fucking White Male says

anon_98513 says

Goran_K says

You can use the word libtard all you want as long as it’s not directed at someone personally.

Ok:
“Libtards are ruining the country.”

Not ok:
“You are a clueless fucking Libtard.”

While ‘you libtards’ or anything along those lines is perfectly acceptable, because err, well fuck I don’t know.

So the actual problem isn’t the policy, it’s that you don’t understand the policy.

Or more accurately you’re plying at being obtuse because you think it makes a point(it doesn’t)

No, because the “rules” are not remotely applied even-handedly. The mere fact that you’ve popped up to chip in pretty much underscores my point given your posting history.

The rules, in practice, just popped up.

Now you are being unintentionally obtuse. Not to mention disingenuous.

Onvacation says

patrick Do you consider vulgarity uncivil?

Not necessarily. Vulgarity can be good natured. Consider AF. Usually vulgar, but rarely if ever uncivil.

The essence of civility is a subtext of good will toward the other users.

Patrick says

Not necessarily. Vulgarity can be good natured. Consider AF. Usually vulgar, but rarely if ever uncivil.

He is a good barbarian. I like him.

Strategist says

Patrick says

Not necessarily. Vulgarity can be good natured. Consider AF. Usually vulgar, but rarely if ever uncivil.

He is a good barbarian. I like him.

I agree. He's opposite of me on the political spectrum, but he is by far the funniest poster on Patrick.net.

I see quite a few have him(her?) on ignore, and I think they are missing out.

Fucking White Male says

Strategist says

Patrick says

Not necessarily. Vulgarity can be good natured. Consider AF. Usually vulgar, but rarely if ever uncivil.

He is a good barbarian. I like him.

I agree. He's opposite of me on the political spectrum, but he is by far the funniest poster on Patrick.net.

I see quite a few have him(her?) on ignore, and I think they are missing out.

Agreed.