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2018 Feb 8, 9:41am   19,547 views  97 comments

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89   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Feb 12, 12:45pm  

anon_10ddb says
What's the surface area of all these pools across the world? How much evaporation takes place every day?

As a percent of the ocean?
I'd say about 0.
With precision of 0.00000001 .
Any other question?
90   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Feb 12, 12:46pm  

anon_10ddb says
It's really very simple, follow the money, who pays these scientists and what's the party line they have to follow to keep getting their paychecks. The ole "peer review" process.

Who pay scientists in 200 countries? The same people?
91   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Feb 12, 12:50pm  

Who paid the Economists in 200 countries, almost none of whom predicted the financial crisis?

Complex Models, man.
92   HeadSet   2018 Feb 12, 12:57pm  

The only reason for it to change is precisely because more CO2 means more heat means more water vapor.

Burning any hydrocarbon (including "clean" natural gas) produces both CO2 and water vapor. Since burning fossil fuel adds the far more potent H2O to the atmosphere, why no alarm about our "Hydro Footprint?" Also, each atom of Hydrogen from the hydrocarbon and each atom of Carbon from the hydrocarbon requires 3 atoms total of Oxygen from the air when they burn to form the CO2 and H2O. Why no talk of "Oxygen Depletion?"

Quoting "scientists worldwide believe" as opposed to presenting answers is no better than saying the Bible is true because Doctors of Divinity worldwide (even from Harvard!) vouch for a complex manuscript the lay cannot understand.
93   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Feb 12, 1:05pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Who paid the Economists in 200 countries, almost none of whom predicted the financial crisis?

So it's not the money?
94   HeadSet   2018 Feb 12, 1:21pm  

Not true. CO2 concentrations at the surface are pretty much maxed out. Infrared in the relevant spectrum is blocked 100%. Why increasing CO2 concentrations are bad is because it makes the blanket thicker. CO2 up where the air is thin and the atmosphere isn't opaque yet is increasing and thus blocking more heat from leaving earth. Global warming denialists who pretend to be experts don't even know the process. I'm sure you've never even heard this before.

CO2 is heavier than air. It is not going to concentrate at altitude where the "air is thin." In fact, CO2 is so heavy that a sudden large concentration will displace up the Oxygen and cause suffocation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos_disaster
95   anonymous   2018 Feb 12, 6:36pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Any other question?


Yes, now apply the same hypothesis to each one of the other sources of water I listed. Or, is just using the singular pools the only way to dispute the water vapor facts.
96   anonymous   2018 Feb 12, 6:36pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
anon_def08 says
There's no chance that MORE water vapor comes from more irrigation, more swimming pools, more car washes, more open reservoirs


Seriously? pools?
Are you aware that a vast majority of this planet is covered with water, and that water falls regularly from the sky in most places?
Water is water. It's there.


OK, I'll expand on the water usage, since the Alarmists feel the rise in CO2 is caused by man, but the rise of water vapor is just caused by nature.

Using the dates in chart in the OP, what do we know?

Worldwide population:

in 1958: 2.9 billion people
in 2018: 7.4 billion people
http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/1350_total_world_population_1950_to_2050.html
The population has over DOUBLED on that time period.

Is there any chance this increase in population (and the water required to support said population) could add to the evaporation/water vapor produced each day? Here's the list again, I'm sure there are other items that can be included that's missing.

anon_def08 says
There's no chance that MORE water vapor comes from more irrigation, more swimming pools, more car washes, more open reservoirs, more man made lakes, more water retention pits, more mining, more industrial uses of water, more sewerage treatment plants, more asphalt and concrete allowing more water to evaporate versus drain into the ground, more fires requiring firefighting using water, etc. etc. etc., all due to HIGHER population using MORE water??


Then add this to the equation:

HeadSet says
Burning any hydrocarbon (including "clean" natural gas) produces both CO2 and water vapor. Since burning fossil fuel adds the far more potent H2O to the atmosphere, why no alarm about our "Hydro Footprint?"


The facts show that the atmosphere is made up of 95% water vapor. Sources that produce water vapor (above) have dramatically increased in the last 50 years.

Why do the alarmists totally discount and dismiss that water vapor has any connection to increased heat on the planet, and blame CO2 for the increased heat?

Heraclitusstudent says
What we have is people who DON’T WANT to believe the large amount of evidence,


Yep, that's true.
97   anonymous   2018 Feb 12, 10:47pm  

HeadSet says
CO2 is heavier than air. It is not going to concentrate at altitude where the "air is thin." In fact, CO2 is so heavy that a sudden large concentration will displace up the Oxygen and cause suffocation.


I see. So all existing CO2 is at sea level and all humans living at sea level are dead. After all, wtf is oxygen and nitrogen doing mixed in with our CO2 layer?

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