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America's health extortion racket is not extending our lives at all
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2018 Feb 21, 1:04pm 13,505 views 55 comments
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Tenpoundbass
2018 Feb 23, 8:16am
Tenpoundbass
2018 Feb 23, 8:16am
Well if you don't like our healthcare then you are racist.
Hehehe it's really all Liberals have is calling everyone racists when they fail time and time again like they always do.
I'm a racist right now for pointing out their propensity for abject Failure.
Hehehe it's really all Liberals have is calling everyone racists when they fail time and time again like they always do.
I'm a racist right now for pointing out their propensity for abject Failure.
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Patrick
2018 Feb 23, 9:17am
Patrick
2018 Feb 23, 9:17am
Here is US life expectancy by race:
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/life-expectancy-by-re/
Whites live to about 78.9 years, blacks to 74.6. Honestly I thought the gap would be larger.
Also surprising that Hispanics live longer than whites at 82.8. Not surprised that Asians live to 86.5 though.
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/life-expectancy-by-re/
Whites live to about 78.9 years, blacks to 74.6. Honestly I thought the gap would be larger.
Also surprising that Hispanics live longer than whites at 82.8. Not surprised that Asians live to 86.5 though.
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Bd6r
2018 Feb 23, 9:43am
Bd6r
2018 Feb 23, 9:43am
Patrick says
Interesting, given that Hispanics seem to be more overweight than whites. Perhaps, since they appear to be more family-oriented, they do not ship their elderly off to elderhouses to die, but keep them in family and so old people feel useful (look after grand-kids) and have some purpose to live.
Also surprising that Hispanics live longer than whites at 82.8.
Interesting, given that Hispanics seem to be more overweight than whites. Perhaps, since they appear to be more family-oriented, they do not ship their elderly off to elderhouses to die, but keep them in family and so old people feel useful (look after grand-kids) and have some purpose to live.
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NuttBoxer
2018 Feb 23, 9:57am
NuttBoxer
2018 Feb 23, 9:57am
Start with the AMA and Rockefeller. Since then American medicine has silo-ed to treatment only. Prevention isn't taught, isn't understood, and isn't profitable. The good news is everyone, EVERYONE can avoid going bankrupt, and start getting healthier right now! You just have to assume responsibility for yourself, start eating healthy, eliminate dangerous chemicals from your life, and exercise.
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Patrick
2018 Feb 23, 3:42pm
Patrick
2018 Feb 23, 3:42pm
bob2356 says
@bob2356 If all providers had to stick to their own price list whether the patient has insurance or not, and all insurers had to treat every provider the same, then insurance rates would be a nice proxy for that price list.
So yes, we need a little bit more than published price lists. But publishing the list would still be a massive help in driving down costs, because people would in fact choose the better value, given that their insurer is going to cover only some fixed amount of any given billing code.
Look at it this way: if procedure X costs $1000 from one provider, and $2000 from another, and your insurer pays $700 for procedure X either way (treating all providers the same), then the provider who is more cost efficient at procedure X will win, and prices will fall.
You guys keep saying post prices, post prices. But why is anyone going to ;bother to look at them if the insurance company pays anyway? Crickets chirping every time I ask that.
@bob2356 If all providers had to stick to their own price list whether the patient has insurance or not, and all insurers had to treat every provider the same, then insurance rates would be a nice proxy for that price list.
So yes, we need a little bit more than published price lists. But publishing the list would still be a massive help in driving down costs, because people would in fact choose the better value, given that their insurer is going to cover only some fixed amount of any given billing code.
Look at it this way: if procedure X costs $1000 from one provider, and $2000 from another, and your insurer pays $700 for procedure X either way (treating all providers the same), then the provider who is more cost efficient at procedure X will win, and prices will fall.
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It's almost as if handing cash to medical administrators, health insurance companies, and stockholders in private medical companies is, like, not actually a good treatment for any disease at all.