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anon_8f378 says

The point is that police don't care about the lives of minorities

As if they care about lives of non-minorities.

An estimated 1 in every 291 stops or arrests resulted in a death or medically treated injury, and this rate did not differ significantly between racial or ethnic groups, according to the researchers.

Miller had expected higher rates of death and injury during stops or arrests of minorities. “But it turns out, the probability you will be killed or seriously injured if (you are) stopped/arrested by the police is not affected by your race/ethnicity,” he said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-injuries-police-arrests-idUSKCN1052G1

While I agree that (many) cops are a bunch of bullies with (oversized) pensions, who will never be prosecuted for whatever illegal things they do, data show that a white guy is just as likely to be killed as a black guy when stopped by police.

Edit: it is useful to check statistics before assuming something, even if that something is excessively peddled by media.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Brown was resisting arrest and approached Wilson screaming at him. A grand jury agreed and refused to indict.
Smith was fleeing officers while possessing a stolen handgun. A Black Officer shot him and the jury found the Officer not guilty on all counts.
Martin was shot after punching the neighborhood watchman in the face. The jury again said "not guilty".

Yes, I'm well aware of what the jury said. That doesn't change the fact that the shootings are all bad. Those people should not have died. Right wing groups are very callous with human life. I can't tell you how many times someone has posted that a suspect "didn't follow the police orders exactly--therefore he got what he deserved." Anyone who says that is a complete and utter idiot.

Again and again, the link between Trump and authoritarianism is proven to be unbelievably strong. It's both uncanny and scary.

anon_8f378 says

Yes, I'm well aware of what the jury said. That doesn't change the fact that the shootings are all bad. Those people should not have died. Right wing groups are very callous with human life. I can't tell you how many times someone has posted that a suspect "didn't follow the police orders exactly--therefore he got what he deserved." Anyone who says that is a complete and utter idiot.

The shootings aren't all bad. I have no problem with a man defending himself from violence by a strange teen thug, taking out a fleeing perp with a stolen gun, or stopping an aggressive man who is approaching an officer at rapid speed yelling angrily.

I'm more interested in why Jamal shooting Tyrone over drugs or nasty ratchets, which happens far more frequently than cop shootings, is all but ignored.

The same people who claim there is a "Culture of Police Violence" airily dismiss all assertions that there is a Thug Culture polluting Black Areas.

anon_8f378 says

Again and again, the link between Trump and authoritarianism is proven to be unbelievably strong. It's both uncanny and scary.

Proven? By whom? A Hard Left Social Science Professor?

I think calls to repeal an ancient liberty enshrined in the Constitution is Authoritarianism. Expropriating Land without Compensation is Authoritarianism. Mandating who people hire because of race is Authoritarianism.

The same people who claim there is a "Culture of Police Violence" airily dismiss all assertions that there is a Thug Culture polluting Black Areas.


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It’s not confined to Black Areas. It can also be found in the bedrooms of most teen white girls. Which is likely why it bothers the Trumpcucks so much. If it only happened in the hood, then they’d celebrate it and encourage it. Wipe yourselves from existence they’d say.

But the truth is, behind every Trumpcuck is surely a long history of rage over failures with women, and they hate that the poor thugs are all tapping their crushes ass, while they’re left to settle for used up hand job masseuse in search of citizenship to leech off and water down the gene pool with their mongoloid offspring

Goran_K says

He's had the largest magnifying glass ever focused on a U.S president on him for over a year and literally NOTHING has been found.

Wtf ? Trump didn't even disclose his tax returns. We don't know how much money laundering he's been involved in. And there's so much else we don't know.

And the Mueller investigation can't hold a candle to Kenneth Star's. Just because we don't know yet, doesn't mean they don't have anything.

"One difference between Nixon and Trump: when the Republicans nominated Nixon, they didn't actually KNOW he was a crook." — Stephen King

TwoScoopsPlissken says

The shootings aren't all bad. I have no problem with a man defending himself from violence by a strange teen thug, taking out a fleeing perp with a stolen gun, or stopping an aggressive man who is approaching an officer at rapid speed yelling angrily.

And there were probably others like you on the jury. But, it's really sad. Police used to be able to defuse situations and stop crazy people without killing them. And we, as a society, used to care about people being needlessly killed.


TwoScoopsPlissken says

The same people who claim there is a "Culture of Police Violence" airily dismiss all assertions that there is a Thug Culture polluting Black Areas.

More strawman arguments. I think both are true. Let's work to change both cultures.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Proven? By whom?

It has been proven by many studies, but I was referencing the reactions of Trump supporters.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

I think calls to repeal an ancient liberty enshrined in the Constitution is Authoritarianism.

First--nobody is calling for that so your point is moot. Second--that's not authoritarian at all.


TwoScoopsPlissken says

Mandating who people hire because of race is Authoritarianism.

Nope--again, the statement is moot because it's a strawman. Also-it's not a demonstration of authoritarianism.