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Why is it difficult for leftists to make points w/o attacking others?


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2018 Mar 19, 8:38am   53,637 views  277 comments

by CBOEtrader   ➕follow (4)   💰tip   ignore  

My theory is that superiority is built into the identity of the left.

Accusing others of being child killers for disagreeing about gun rights -OR- suggesting disagreement can only stem from ignorance or racism or both. This form of bigotry is so deeply rooted into the psyche of the left that it becomes almost impossible to discuss a political topic w/o letting these direct personal attacks slip.

Our forum has become an interesting case study in the leftists psychology. It is the product of $billions worth of propaganda blasting soft minds with news, and nonstop Hollywood bigotry against wrongthink. The Nazi's would be jealous of the righteousness seen in today's left, and even more jealous of the glee with which the left today enacts its fascist, anti-wrongthink agenda

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158   missing   2018 Mar 20, 10:31am  

Patrick says
FP says
That's what I wish too. So please restore my comment, which Goran deleted , and delete Goran's attack against me.


@FP Deleted comments are really gone, since backups happen at night.

Can you just repost it? Please do not make it about Goran or about any other user, or about all patrick.net users.


@patrick,

I did repost it yesterday (by memory) and he has deleted it again. Please restore it from you overnight backup and deal with your moderator.

Do you wish your site to be moderated by people who apply and violate the rules selectively.
159   missing   2018 Mar 20, 10:38am  

errc says
Tread lightly.


Nah, I'll just expose hypocrisy and dishonesty (I'm smart enough to be able to do it within the rules) until something breaks one way or another. I'm enjoying it and this is what this site used to be about once upon a time. @patrick
160   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 20, 10:41am  

I suspect FP will be the next to lose the ability to post threads and will have all his comments go immediately to moderation...
161   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 20, 10:46am  

Goran_K says
Yes, I discovered a lot of the dirtiness behind the DNC around that time. I saw Obama engage in one of the most race baiting campaigns I've ever seen a presidential candidate run. It made me wonder why I was part of the party. I did a lot of reading, and made the decision to leave the party.


I don't expect you actually want to learn, but just in case, here is some good material for you:

https://medium.com/everyvote/how-the-republicans-and-democrats-switched-on-civil-rights-in-5-racist-steps-92c1b41480b

https://forwardprogressives.com/the-truth-about-republican-racism-and-the-southern-strategy/

I can provide some more if you want to further your learning. Just let me know.
162   Patrick   2018 Mar 20, 10:51am  

I'm just about to ban the fucking word "you".

Don't want to read anything about any user.

Except moderators do indeed have the right to ask users to stop talking about other users. Goran is doing a fine job.
163   missing   2018 Mar 20, 10:57am  

Patrick says
Except moderators do indeed have the right to ask users to stop talking about other users.


@patrick,

Yes, but we have a case where a moderator is: (1) talking about other users, (2) does not allow to be asked by others to stop talking about other uses, (3) deletes comments that do not violate the rules, and (4) lies about the latter.

Furthermore, addressing somebody, or asking somebody a question, is not the same as talking about them.
164   Patrick   2018 Mar 20, 11:03am  

I looked at Goran's comments and they look OK to me.

I get notified of comments marked "personal" and nearly all of them are indeed personal.
165   missing   2018 Mar 20, 11:07am  

FP says
Goran_K says
Democrats/leftist are the most racist people in the country (fought to maintain slavery, formed the KKK, invented a new slavery via LBJ's "great society" movement, their entire identity politics platform).


Goran_K says
I voted Democrat in every Presidential election until 2008


LOL


@FP I want to keep this in my records. I'll just repost it in resppnse to attacks against democaats/leftists/liberals. Thanks Goran!
166   missing   2018 Mar 20, 11:08am  

Patrick says
I looked at Goran's comments and they look OK to me.

I get notified of comments marked "personal" and nearly all of them are indeed personal.


@Patrick,

What was "personal" in the comments that he deleted?

How is the coment that I asked you repeatedly to delete not personal? He claims that I have insulted him. Where was the insult in my comment (I reposted it)?

He is writing again above that I'm commenting about other users. This is an insinuation (which is a personal attack!). How are my comments any worse than his?

Please follow your own rules and prevent personal attacks by your moderator.
167   missing   2018 Mar 20, 11:18am  

FP says
Except moderators do indeed have the right to ask users to stop talking about other users.


@patrick,

Yes, but we have a case where a moderator is: (1) talking about other users, (2) does not allow to be asked by others to stop talking about other uses, (3) deletes comments that do not violate the rules, and (4) lies about the latter.

Furthermore, addressing somebody, or asking somebody a question, is not the same as talking about them.


@FP keep this too
168   anonymous   2018 Mar 20, 11:32am  

HappyGilmore says
I suspect FP will be the next to lose the ability to post threads and will have all his comments go immediately to moderation...


Fair and Balanced

Liberals ruined everything
169   Goran_K   2018 Mar 20, 11:35am  

had to do some work, read through the newest comments, and STILL haven't seen any response to this graph.

170   anonymous   2018 Mar 20, 11:37am  

Patrick says
I'm just about to ban the fucking word "you".

Don't want to read anything about any user.

Except moderators do indeed have the right to ask users to stop talking about other users. Goran is doing a fine job.


A bang up job, indeed.

Why do so many people keep complaining about him, it’s wierd that they cannot see that he is Fair and Balanced, and always very genuine and honest
171   Shaman   2018 Mar 20, 11:38am  

Leftists don’t like reason or facts. They mostly enjoy bullying and intimidation, spiced with a side of dogma and groupthink.
172   missing   2018 Mar 20, 11:43am  

Goran_K says
had to do some work, read through the newest comments, and STILL haven't seen any response to this graph.


Maybe it was deleted.
173   missing   2018 Mar 20, 11:44am  

Right wingers are imbeciles.
174   anonymous   2018 Mar 20, 11:49am  

FP says
Right wingers are imbeciles.


Everyone knows this

The worst is the phony coward right wingers who are too ashamed to admit that they’re halfwits so they call themselves Libertarians. Lmao
175   anonymous   2018 Mar 20, 11:50am  

Goran_K says
had to do some work, read through the newest comments, and STILL haven't seen any response to this graph.



What are you confused about, it seems rather straightforward
176   Goran_K   2018 Mar 20, 12:00pm  

errc says
What are you confused about, it seems rather straightforward


Good, that's exactly my point.
177   missing   2018 Mar 20, 12:01pm  

errc says
Everyone knows this


But do you think they, being so dumb, are aware of this fact? Because if not, I can challenge some of them to an IQ competition and they may fall for it. It will be easy money. I think they like betting too.
178   anonymous   2018 Mar 20, 12:04pm  

FP says
errc says
Everyone knows this


But do you think they, being so dumb, are aware of this fact? Because if not, I can challenge some of them to an IQ competition and they may fall for it. It will be easy money. I think they like betting too.


No it’s fairly obvious they aren’t very self aware, otherwise they wouldn’t be right wing pawns. And you could try, but they don’t have money to wager, and even if they did, their word is shit so impossible to have a Gentleman’s wager with people lacking any constitution
179   missing   2018 Mar 20, 12:10pm  

errc says
their word is shit


Yes, you are right. They are very dishonest and hypocritical. Which is quite ironic since these are two of the characteristics of SJW's and the PC movement against which they rage so much. But dumb is dumb, what can you do?
180   Bd6r   2018 Mar 20, 12:12pm  

FP says
explain US vs other developed countries

Might be higher income inequality in US and more ethnically and racially mixed population.

Edit: and a good case in point is actually El Paso, which is ethnically homogeneous (>90% Hispanic) and has very low crime.
181   missing   2018 Mar 20, 12:23pm  

drB6 says
FP says
explain US vs other developed countries

Might be higher income inequality in US and more ethnically and racially mixed population.

Edit: and a good case in point is actually El Paso, which is ethnically homogeneous (>90% Hispanic) and has very low crime.


Might be this, might be that. Anything but guns.

You were in academia, right? What's your discipline? It's not physics right?
182   missing   2018 Mar 20, 12:26pm  

Canada and Australia are ethnically diverse.

There are Eastern European countries with large income inequality and population living below the poverty line.
183   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 20, 12:43pm  

Goran_K says
errc says
Vermont is sparsely populated with the only city center type town being a college town on the Canadian border.



Wrong.

Vermont has lots of gun nutters. One of the most active NRA chapters is in Vermont, and they can own Class III NFA items (not available in California or New York).

Lots of Democrats = Lots of gun homicide


Vermont has very few blacks = low crime rate. This is the unfortunate truth.
184   FortWayne   2018 Mar 20, 12:46pm  

Left has no points, just demands onto taxpayers.
185   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 20, 12:46pm  

FP says
Because if not, I can challenge some of them to an IQ competition and they may fall for it.


If there is a real, digital, fair method id happily challenge anyone on this board to an IQ test challenge.
186   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 20, 12:50pm  

FP says
Canada and Australia are ethnically diverse.

There are Eastern European countries with large income inequality and population living below the poverty line.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians

Canada is 2.5% black. Yes they have a low crime rate
187   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 20, 12:50pm  

FP says
Canada and Australia are ethnically diverse.


They were highly developed Anglo-Saxon nations before they had diversity. Australia had a Whites-only, then an "Educated-Only" policy most of the past century.

Canada is about 80% White, with a Native population larger than the US at 5%. Add in East Asians at 8%, and Canada is 93% Indigenous, White, or East Asian. With only 7% from mostly Shithole Countries.

Despite taking in Lebanese (big crime element) and Asians in numbers, Australia is still 90% White. In other words, about the same as China which is about 90% Han Chinese. Han Chinese dominate in every last Chinese province except Tibet and Xikiang, the latter which due to deliberate policies of relocating Han to Turkic Areas, it is now 45% Han Chinese.

Indeed, one can make the case that the median White household is worse off (considering more Mothers work these days, also) since the the 1960s Immigration Act.

FP says
There are Eastern European countries with large income inequality and population living below the poverty line.


Do you honestly believe if they took in a hundred thousand or so NAFRA refugees, they'd be richer for it?

They're colonies of Germany, deliberately de-industrialized after the Cold War to ensure they couldn't compete with Germany by offering low-cost goods based on lower labor and electric costs. Like GM and the Trollies, the Germans brought up the factories, used the machines for scrap metal, and shut 'em down. Much of the money that Germany was allowed to go over EU limits to borrow in the 90s for Reunification actually was spent "Investing" in Eastern Europe.

Germany's war on coal isn't solely motivated by Greeny Goodness.
188   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 20, 12:54pm  

drB6 says
FP says
explain US vs other developed countries

Might be higher income inequality in US and more ethnically and racially mixed population.

Edit: and a good case in point is actually El Paso, which is ethnically homogeneous (>90% Hispanic) and has very low crime.


First define "developed countries". Every time the left pulls out this garbage line they cherry pick a few European countries plus a few homogonous Asian countries.

A far better comparison would be Mexico or Brazil, as they are similarly diverse. How are we doing I'm violent crime compared to those places?

If you want to compare to Iceland, New Hampshire here in the states has comparable income, diversity and crime rates.
189   anonymous   2018 Mar 20, 1:03pm  

CBOEtrader says
FP says
Canada and Australia are ethnically diverse.

There are Eastern European countries with large income inequality and population living below the poverty line.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians

Canada is 2.5% black. Yes they have a low crime rate


How do you propose we resolve the black problem?
190   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 20, 1:09pm  

errc says
How do you propose we resolve the black problem?



Abraham Lincoln thought they should be Hotep'd. Send them back to Africa, the goddamn magic wonderland where in the ancient days of Wakanda, they built UFO Anti-gravity Pyramids that traveled the stars until Yakub the literal White Devil showed up.

The true sign of Ra's blessing is the Black Man thrives in the hot sun, but the Evil White Devil is burned and cursed with the Melanoma by the lifegiving Rays of Ra.

Seriously though, the NigNog is a subset of Black People, who causes most of the problems. Send the Hair Hatted Houligan Bastard Factories to the Unwed Mothers home. That will solve most of the Urban Crime Problem. Work, no Thugs to Fuck, No 40s Allowed, no problems of Black Youth corrupted by Nasty Nappy Hos.

It's for everybody, including Trailer White Trash Hos too.
191   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 20, 1:15pm  

errc says
How do you propose we resolve the black problem?


End PC culture immediately so that experts can ask the tough questions, identify problems, and look for potential solutions.

End the soft racism of leftist low expectations and treat blacks w the same dignity and respect as we treat white males.

End affirmative action and any other program that has been a proven failure to those it supposedly helps.

Implement best person for the job policies, EVERYWHERE.

Teach blacks to compete on a level playing field rather than hand out soft expectation racist goodies.

Publicly shame anyone who promotes victim hood culture.

Look openly at the inner city democratic policies that have kept the black communities in ghetto voting plantation mode.

Spend money on better schools rather than wars and/or failed welfare programs.

Bring back working class jobs by protecting our boarder.

Basically, everything Trump is doing should drastically help the black community. We are already showing signs of improvement.
192   missing   2018 Mar 20, 1:16pm  

Republican with < $5mil net worth = idiot
193   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 20, 1:18pm  

FP says
Republican with < $5mil net worth = idiot


At least you are honest about how you judge working class americans. This is why the D's will continue to lose.

Trump is the working class candidate. He is what the democrats were in the days of JFK.
194   anonymous   2018 Mar 20, 1:30pm  

CBOEtrader says
FP says
Republican with < $5mil net worth = idiot


At least you are honest about how you judge working class americans. This is why the D's will continue to lose.

Trump is the working class candidate. He is what the democrats were in the days of JFK.


Riiiight. Either that, or he’s as Republican as any Republican before him.

His lone accomplishments are massive tax cut for the wealthy and promises to spend more money we don’t have on a military we don’t need.

How is that any different than every other Republican?

Oh yea, he talks about God a lot, and really protects the Christian Conservative halfwits and their religious nonsense that they demand be imposed on the rest of us, Freedom and Liberty be damned
195   anonymous   2018 Mar 20, 1:31pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
errc says
How do you propose we resolve the black problem?



Abraham Lincoln thought they should be Hotep'd. Send them back to Africa, the goddamn magic wonderland where in the ancient days of Wakanda, they built UFO Anti-gravity Pyramids that traveled the stars until Yakub the literal White Devil showed up.

The true sign of Ra's blessing is the Black Man thrives in the hot sun, but the Evil White Devil is burned and cursed with the Melanoma by the lifegiving Rays of Ra.

Seriously though, the NigNog is a subset of Black People, who causes most of the problems. Send the Hair Hatted Houligan Bastard Factories to the Unwed Mothers home. That will solve most of the Urban Crime Problem. Work, no Thugs to Fuck, No 40s Allowed, no problems of Black Youth corrupted by Nasty Nappy Hos.

It's for everybody, including Trailer White Trash Hos too.


So Big Government Nanny State?
196   Goran_K   2018 Mar 20, 1:31pm  

CBOEtrader says
Vermont has very few blacks = low crime rate. This is the unfortunate truth.


Good point.
197   anonymous   2018 Mar 20, 1:32pm  

CBOEtrader says
errc says
How do you propose we resolve the black problem?


End PC culture immediately so that experts can ask the tough questions, identify problems, and look for potential solutions.

End the soft racism of leftist low expectations and treat blacks w the same dignity and respect as we treat white males.

End affirmative action and any other program that has been a proven failure to those it supposedly helps.

Implement best person for the job policies, EVERYWHERE.

Teach blacks to compete on a level playing field rather than hand out soft expectation racist goodies.

Publicly shame anyone who promotes victim hood culture.

Look openly at the inner city democratic policies that have kept the black communities in ghetto voting plantation mode.

Spend money on better schools rather than wars and/or failed welfare programs.

Bring back working clas...

Whatever happened to Free Market Capitalist solutions?

Now it’s just SJWs demanding the Big Government come spend more money

With right wingers, some things never change

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