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TwoScoopsPlissken says

bob2356 says

The only media that called bush a goddam genius was the right wing echo chamber.

That's not how I remember it. Until just about a month or so before the 2004, the Media was generally kissing Bush's ass and embracing the flag waving and yellow-ribboning. Oppo to the Iraq War was limited to a handful of commentators and the AltMedia.

Then your memory is faulty. The more conservative the media the bigger bush cheerleader. Some how you forgot the Hannity, O'Reilly, etc., etc. daily shilling of the war? Still waiting for any kind of admission they were wrong about anything.

The main stream varied between generally supporting to skeptical. But they were also subject to a full court lobbying effort by the bush admin. There was actually an entire operation in the white house devoted to selling the war to the press and people. The MSM didn't expect to be sold the same bill of goods as Vietnam. They assumed the pentagon papers era was past and no president would try it again. I'll try to find my op/ed that was published in USA today Feb (think) 2003 saying exactly that. or the one published about the same time that said Rumsvelt was the new Mcnamara, the military was suffering from we can swat aside the people in black pajama's no sweat syndrome again and since the mentality was the same the results were going to be the same.

Seems like your memory has blocked out people like Tim Robbins, Mike Farrell, Rob Reiner, Martin Sheen, Susan Sarandon, Michael Moore, the Dixie Chicks, and many more who were frequently in the MSM as critics of the war. Anyone speaking out against the war was vilified in the conservative press and by the administration as anti american traitors.

How about posting some articles from the MSM calling bush a genius? Maybe start with Scarborough who asked in April 2003 whether "journalists at The New York Times and NPR or at ABC or at CNN are going to ever admit just how wrong their negative pronouncements were over the past four weeks." Yep sounds like the MSM guys were seriously sucking bush ass.

The consensus view is that the Media sexed up the Iraq War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Iraq_War#Criticisms_of_pro-invasion_bias

And yes, wikipedia because I'm not in the mood to look up half a dozen specific articles. Plenty of references and links over there to visit the original sources and all the studies that have been done on the subject.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

The consensus view is that the Media sexed up the Iraq War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Iraq_War#Criticisms_of_pro-invasion_bias

And yes, wikipedia because I'm not in the mood to look up half a dozen specific articles. Plenty of references and links over there to visit the original sources and all the studies that have been done on the subject.

Can't find the parts where the MSM is calling bush a goddam genius who is a good man that will save the world. Oh wait you deleted that comment. Duck and run. Too bad it;s quoted in my comment.

I also noticed you switched from MSM to the media. Shuck and jive.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

You mean the omnibus that was dumped in his lap at the last minute, that was a hearty handshake deal between all members of Congress of both parties, who the moment it passed Congress dared Trump to veto it?

Sure looks like Pelosi is pretty damn proud of her work on the Omnibus bill.

Pelosi is the majority leader again?. When did that happen> Shit, I really have to start watching news on weekends.

Last time I checked the president has the option to stop watching fox news and actually get off his ass to start working with congress to get the priorities he wants. It's called leadership. But that would cut into tweeting time, never mind.

Republicans only care about debt when they are out of power. In power their spending is an embarrassment to drunken sailors.

bob2356 says

Pelosi is the majority leader again?. When did that happen> Shit, I really have to start watching news on weekends.

As minority leader, she made this happen:





That's right, 111 Dems YEA, only 77 Dems NAY, less than the 90 Reps who voted NAY.

Pelosi took credit for the Omnibus, I already posted the link above to her own site where she clearly praises herself and the Democrats.

Good work rallying the party for the YEA on the Omnibus, Nancy!

TwoScoopsPlissken says

As minority leader, she made this happen:

So you are saying trump really, really sucks at political leadership then.

bob2356 says

So you are saying trump really, really sucks at political leadership then.

Trump is Paul Ryan? 90 Republicans voted Nay, that's more than the Democrats who did so.

Pelosi worked hard to help pass the Omnibus.

Democrats, fighting runaway spending at every turn.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Trump is Paul Ryan?

Trump is the president. The big cheese who is supposed to provide leadership (the dreaded L word) to get his legislative priorities passed. I thought you knew that.