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bob2356 says

The only health care illegals get is ER and they are triaged away if they don't really need an ER.

The very article you linked disproves this statement.

bob2356 says

Canada, Germany, Australia, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Singapore, Isreal, Lebanon, Sweden, Austria, Ireland, New Zealand, Luxembourg, Cyprus, and a whole bunch of small countries all have a higher portion of immigrants than the US.

Nice try: most of countries on the list have much tighter control on who is admitted. We have a fucking semi-open border with a 3rd World country and catch-and-release policy.

It would be interesting to watch what happens in Sweden now that they admitted so much of refugees from shitholes.


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Satoshi_Nakamoto says

bob2356 says

The only health care illegals get is ER and they are triaged away if they don't really need an ER.

The very article you linked disproves this statement.

So you are saying forbes is wrong about 18 billion. So why don't you post the real number along with the research that came up with it. It's true because I believe it should be true doesn't count.

Satoshi_Nakamoto says

Nice try: most of countries on the list have much tighter control on who is admitted. We have a fucking semi-open border with a 3rd World country and catch-and-release policy.

You didn't manage to follow the conversation somehow. The statement was.

BlueSardine says

with proportional legal immigration coverage

What does catch and release have to do with legal immigration? Nothing. All of the countries on my list have a higher percentage of legal immigrants than the US and public health care with lower health care costs than the US.

When will we be seeing the research that proves forbes wrong on the cost of illegals?

bob2356 says

Satoshi_Nakamoto says

Nice try: most of countries on the list have much tighter control on who is admitted. We have a fucking semi-open border with a 3rd World country and catch-and-release policy.

You didn't manage to follow the conversation somehow. The statement was.

BlueSardine says

with proportional legal immigration coverage

What does catch and release have to do with legal immigration?

This quote from your message:

bob2356 says

bob2356 says

The only health care illegals get is ER and they are triaged away if they don't really need an ER.

It wasn't me who introduced illegals into the conversation, m'kay?

Therefore it wasn't me who didn't manage to follow the conversation. Somehow.

anotheraccount says

WarrenTheApe says

What do you mean that you sell medicare policies?

You can be a broker for supplemental to Medicare Part A and B and Medicare part C plans (plans run by insurers - paid by Medicare). I don't think you can sell Medicare Part A or B itself.

Medicare part A (hospitalization) is paid for directly by social security for free if you paid into it for at least 40 working quarters, but costs up to $422 (about) if you havent paid enough into ss taxes.

Part B is paid for based on your income level from 2 years prior, and is paid automatically out of ss benefits. Depending on your income part B can be free or just over $400/month.

To cover the gaps in coverage, everyone who can afford to goes w an additional Medicare Suppliment or medsup and usually part D as well for prescriptions. Additionally, dental coverage is separate.

An agent gets paid for Medsup/D and dental.

If that package is too expensive, the customer can go w a Medicare part c or advantage plan instead. An agent gets paid the most for advantage plans. (Although cross selling life and critical illness coverage are the big money makers.)

Medicare advantage typically covers all bases in one policy BUT is limited to a carriers network, which often is quite smaller than the general Medicare network. Social security will pay advantage carriers for covering their responsibility AND the client will cover some of the premium as well.

Carriers such as Blue Cross, Aetna, Humana, Scott and White, etc... make a huge amount of money selling Medicare plans and they spend an enormous amount on advertising and marketing to grow their customer base.

I was a trader in my last career. Medical insurance makes finance look like and fair business by comparison. The govt regulations are literally transferring hundreds of billions per year from the average person to the insurance companies and medical care providers. It's fucking sickening... but I do make a lot of money doing it :)

That was a comprehensive description of how Medicare insurance works.

CBOEtrader says

Medicare advantage typically covers all bases in one policy BUT is limited to a carriers network, which often is quite smaller than the general Medicare network. Social security will pay advantage carriers for covering their responsibility AND the client will cover some of the premium as well.

Exactly what I said. Medicare is paying the carriers. The premiums are a small part of what is paid out.

CBOEtrader says

Carriers such as Blue Cross, Aetna, Humana, Scott and White, etc... make a huge amount of money selling Medicare plans and they spend an enormous amount on advertising and marketing to grow their customer base.

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Which makes my point exactly, although I still believe the amounts spent on capturing medicare advantage patients is small compared to what is spent capturing patients in private insurance. . Huge amounts are expended that have nothing to do with caring for people, but just to move the money around and provide profits every step of the way..

CBOEtrader says

Medical insurance makes finance look like and fair business by comparison. The govt regulations are literally transferring hundreds of billions per year from the average person to the insurance companies and medical care providers. It's fucking sickening... but I do make a lot of money doing it :)

Those would be the regulations written by industry lobbyists at the behest of libertarian politicians bought and paid for by the industry because everyone knows that free market health insurance is so much cheaper than government programs. In any other country that would be considered bribery and corruption. In the US it0 is called political free speech. Trust me the rest of the world is laughing at this.

You just trumped your own free market ace you know.

How is that different from how this government collects taxes?

Framework is already in place.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

If anything fucks with the gravy train, the doctors will have only one choice: getting their patients PIN numbers at gun point and shooting them after emptying their bank accounts. Libby fucks have no clue.