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Don't want your family separated at the Mexican Border. Don't go to Mexican Border and try to toss them over. Elementary my dear wannabe illegal immigrant.

Fuck the media setting the narrative.

American citizens hugging their kids != criminal activity by adults

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says

Fuck the media setting the narrative.

American citizens hugging their kids != criminal activity by adults

And surprise, surprise. Another strawman argument from a Trump supporter.

Nobody anywhere has suggested anything about criminal behavior. Folks on twitter have simply pointed out the poor timing of Ivanka posing with her child as 1500+ kids have been lost by the Trump administration. Obviously those parents are unable to take any photos with their kids...

LeonDurham says

Obviously those parents are unable to take any photos with their kids...

... and they fucking need to take responsibility for what have they done to them.

Hassan_Rouhani says

... and they fucking need to take responsibility for what have they done to them.

Awesome. It's their fault that the Trump Administration lost their kid?

LeonDurham says

Hassan_Rouhani says

... and they fucking need to take responsibility for what have they done to them.

Awesome. It's their fault that the Trump Administration lost their kid?

Partially, yes. They consciously decided to subject their kids to the dangers of crossing the border illegally and entering the immigration detention system.

LeonDurham says

Hassan_Rouhani says

... and they fucking need to take responsibility for what have they done to them.

Awesome. It's their fault that the Trump Administration lost their kid?

You are completely misinformed.Those are mostly teens who went undercover to not get deported. Nobody's fault but theirs. Nothing to do with the Trump administration, even NPR acknowledged that yesterday to keep these two distinct problems apart. Also any parent that uses their child as a pawn to willfully break the law is unfit. Unless you come from a war zone and maybe a few from central america escape gang violence. Do not use your kids as pawns.

LeonDurham says

Nobody anywhere has suggested anything about criminal behavior. Folks on twitter have simply pointed out the poor timing of Ivanka posing with her child as 1500+ kids have been lost by the Trump administration. Obviously those parents are unable to take any photos with their kids...

This is a twofer fail for the moon-bat Progs this weekend.

Earlier this weekend the Progs were all hot and bothered passing around photos of illegal immigrant kids in cages. Only to find out the pictures were 4 years old when Obama was in office.

Now we learn that these 1,500 kids aren't really missing.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/29/politics/hhs-responds-to-reports-of-lost-immigrant-children/index.html

But keep throwing shit up against the wall. Maybe some of it will stick!

socal2 says

This is a twofer fail for the moon-bat Progs this weekend.

Earlier this weekend the Progs were all hot and bothered passing around photos of illegal immigrant kids in cages. Only to find out the pictures were 4 years old when Obama was in office.

Now we learn that these 1,500 kids aren't really missing.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/29/politics/hhs-responds-to-reports-of-lost-immigrant-children/index.html

But keep throwing shit up against the wall. Maybe some of it will stick!

lol--they're not lost! We just don't know where they are....

LeonDurham says

lol--they're not lost! We just don't know where they are....

Go figure - the children's "Sponsors" are often illegal aliens too and refused to report in to the Government.

Liberals want MOAR of this.

Most people don't give a shit about Illegals lives made harder to keep them out. Their "children" are just doing what illegals do, taking advantage of the situation. I bet half the parent invaders know exactly where their kids are, and its just more reason to turn them away at the border and let Mexico deal with them.

LeonDurham says

lol--they're not lost! We just don't know where they are....

Let me help: the term you're looking for is "fugitives", not "lost".

You're welcome.

Communist News Network hates women and sons.

LeonDurham says

Nobody anywhere has suggested anything about criminal behavior. Folks on twitter have simply pointed out the poor timing of Ivanka posing with her child as 1500+ kids have been lost by the Trump administration. Obviously those parents are unable to take any photos with their kids...

How can you eat today while people are starving in the world, and you call yourself a human being? Oh never mind you're just virtue signaling again. I just scrape it off my shoe carry on then.

Fuck Illegals I don't give three shits about them, Fed-Ex all of the Mother fuckers back to Mexico and give that Racist wetback cocksucker Carlos Lopez the bill.

Hassan_Rouhani says

Let me help: the term you're looking for is "fugitives", not "lost".

lol--18 month old fugitives.

Democrats HATE, absolutely HATE the nuclear family structure. When the nuclear family is strong and prevalent, Democrats serve absolutely no purpose.

Democrats need dependent welfare takers to stay in power.

Goran_K says

Democrats HATE, absolutely HATE the nuclear family structure. When the nuclear family is strong and prevalent, Democrats serve absolutely no purpose.

Democrats need dependent welfare takers to stay in power.

Guess what--more strawman arguments!!! Surprise, surprise.

LeonDurham says

Guess what--more strawman arguments!!! Surprise, surprise.

No need to lie and spin it Leon, Liberals have been in the open about their hatred for the Nuclear family especially the white ones.

Aphroman says

Did Obama show his birth certificate yet

Classic troll behavior: when losing an argument badly due to FACTS, bring up something unrelated as a red herring to keep things going!

Seems like the problem is that instead of immediately deporting the families, or at least locking up the kids so we could keep track of them, we released the kids to “family or friends” living (illegally) in the USA. There they can be quickly lost in the melee and stay forever, growing up to be fine young cholos!

LeonDurham says

Guess what--more strawman arguments!!! Surprise, surprise.

Uh, it's called reality, and LBJ basically told people this is what he planned.

Aphroman says

That’s odd. I have hundreds of friends and while most are apolitical, all the working class guys married with kids are Democrats and Liberals, while the only Trumpublicans are guys who aren’t married and don’t have multiple kids, and are seemingly angry most the time, definitely bigtime racists. Mostly drunks

But it’s a big wide world out there, you may experience something different

Yeah, it's called the US Census Bureau, and the CDC. I'd trust their millions of points of data over your "friends".

Goran_K says

Uh, it's called reality, and LBJ basically told people this is what he planned.

No, it's really not. And I challenge you to produce anything--one shred of evidence showing that Dems hate the nuclear family.

LeonDurham says

No, it's really not. And I challenge you to produce anything--one shred of evidence showing that Dems hate the nuclear family.

I just showed you 300 million data points.

Now it's your turn to prove that they do support the nuclear family.

Goran_K says

I just showed you 300 million data points.

Now it's your turn to prove that they do support the nuclear family.

Nope--you showed me that children with an unmarried mother has risen over the last 40 years.

I asked you to show me any shred of evidence to back up your claim that Dems hate the nuclear family.

That chart could just as easily be used to show that Republicans hate the nuclear family. Or Libertarians hate the nuclear family.

LeonDurham says

That chart could just as easily be used to show that Republicans hate the nuclear family. Or Libertarians hate the nuclear family.

No it can't. Republicans and Libertarians did not create the "Great Society" movement. That was Democrats.

Goran_K says

No it can't. Republicans and Libertarians did not create the "Great Society" movement. That was Democrats.

OK great--so you can point to some speeches from LBJ stating that he hated the nuclear family then?

Goran_K says

No it can't. Republicans and Libertarians did not create the "Great Society" movement. That was Democrats.

And, fyi, if you really believe this, the proper post would have been something along the lines of stating that the Dems legislation in the late 60s had some unintended consequences that seem to have led to an erosion of the nuclear family.

A statement like that would have at least been defensible. What you said is just a BS trolling point.

Goran_K says

No it can't. Republicans and Libertarians did not create the "Great Society" movement. That was Democrats.

- Democrats have been telling people for decades that a loving single mother with government assistance is as good as a 2 parent household. Now they scratch their head when they see generations of poor minority families locked in generational poverty and ignorance.........so they blame it on racism.
- Democrats pushed to expand marriage to gay couples. Now cities like Philadelphia (run by Democrats) are blocking Catholic services to assist with adoption because they are against gay marriage.......resulting in thousands of poor children without good foster families.
- Democrats are currently pushing the argument that there are a gazillion genders and children don't need both a male and female parent figure in their lives.
- Democrats have spent my entire lifetime consolidating power to the Government and taking decision and responsibilities away from the parents....


Not even a close call.

LeonDurham says

OK great--so you can point to some speeches from LBJ stating that he hated the nuclear family then?

Not speeches but words he spoke to his own inner circle.

"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference."
Found on Page 155 of Goodwin’s Authorized LBJ biography. The utterance was made to Richard Russell, a fellow Democratic Senator from Georgia. This quote is not in dispute by any historical experts.

Also:

"I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for 200 years."

From Ronald Kessler’s 1995 book Inside the White House. Kessler got the quote from Robert MacMillan, an Air Force One steward who said LBJ uttered this comment to two governors during a conversation on the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Now the above quote is considered "unconfirmed by Snopes", but I believe it to be true due to the following logic:
- Kessler’s source is historically sound (a firsthand account from an eyewitness).
- LBJ’s paternal and racist rhetoric toward African Americans (his fondness for the use of the word “nigger” is well documented) casts some doubt on the idea that his motivations on civil rights were altruistic.
- Luci Baines Johnson, who likely heard her father use racial epithets, would have motivation to deny any racist utterances she might have made.
- Goodwin’s quote confirms that LBJ possessed a well-honed political calculus on the issue of civil rights.
- If LBJ said what MacMillan claimed, MacMillan's “editorializing” comments, which Snopes frowned upon, make sense. (MacMillan used the words “phony” and “ploy” to characterize LBJ’s motivations on the Civil Rights Act of 1964.)
- Numerous historians have LBJ on the record referring to the Civil Rights Act of 1957 as “the nigger bill,” a phrase that runs counter to altruism on civil rights.
- One can imagine LBJ saying what MacMillan claims he said, especially if LBJ was trying to whip up support for his bill among reluctant Democrats.

Like I said, Democrats hate the Nuclear Family because it robs them of power and LBJ knew this. The party of slavery and the KKK has hood winked all of their voters. Voting Democrat is voting for a party of scammers.

LeonDurham says

Dems legislation in the late 60s had some unintended consequences that seem to have led to an erosion of the nuclear family.

Except LBJ clearly shows with his own words it was not "unintended". There was intent and purpose behind the Great Society movement.

Aphroman says

Where do your charts show anything about political affiliations?

They coincide exactly with the launching of the Great Society movement, a Democrat lead initiative.

socal2 says

- Democrats have been telling people for decades that a loving single mother with government assistance is as good as a 2 parent household. Now they scratch their head when they see generations of poor minority families locked in generational poverty and ignorance.........so they blame it on racism.
- Democrats pushed to expand marriage to gay couples. Now cities like Philadelphia (run by Democrats) are blocking Catholic services to assist with adoption because they are against gay marriage.......resulting in thousands of poor children without good foster families.
- Democrats are currently pushing the argument that there are a gazillion genders and children don't need both a male and female parent figure in their lives.
- Democrats have spent my entire lifetime consolidating power to the Government and taking decision and responsibilities away from the parents....

I'd also add, Democrats are pushing for unmitigated illegal immigration fully knowing that illegal aliens often remain generational poor and need government entitlements just to survive.

Here's an actual phone call of LBJ explaining why getting the "nigger vote" was so important in Texas.
www.youtube.com/embed/r1rIDmDWSms

Goran_K says

Here's an actual phone call of LBJ explaining why getting the "nigger vote" was so important in Texas.

Sssshhhhh!

LBJ is one of those "Southern Strategy" racist Republicans we hear so much about.

socal2 says

Sssshhhhh!

LBJ is one of those "Southern Strategy" racist Republicans we hear so much about.

The funny thing is this knowledge is very easy to find, LBJ's own authorized autobiography has direct quotes of him explaining his strategy for getting the "nigger vote".

Democrats are either willfully ignorant, or they're willing to swallow their pride to continue getting welfare from the Democrats. Either way, voting Democrat makes zero sense to me.

Liberal Monkeys don't want to hear the truth, they'll shit in their hands and throw it at you first.

Goran_K says

Not speeches but words he spoke to his own inner circle.

"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference."
Found on Page 155 of Goodwin’s Authorized LBJ biography. The utterance was made to Richard Russell, a fellow Democratic Senator from Georgia. This quote is not in dispute by any historical experts.

Also:

"I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for 200 years."

Great--and how does that relate to Dems hating the nuclear family?

Or did you forget that's what we were talking about?

Goran_K says

Except LBJ clearly shows with his own words it was not "unintended". There was intent and purpose behind the Great Society movement.

Great--please show me those quotes. So far, all you've shown is that LBJ was possibly racist.