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bob2356 says

Violence is regrettable but understandable. They weren't given food, money, and shelter They were ruthlessly exploited as cheap menial labour. Deport them to where? The statute of algeria of 1947 made algerians french citizens and eliminated algerian citizenship. They don't have a citizenship to be deported to.

Has Algeria repaid $2T in Rape & Slavery reparations to France, Italians, Sicilians, Spaniards, Corsicans, and the City of Baltimore, Ireland yet?

Hassan_Rouhani says

mell says

NATO is obsolete.

NATO (US Military, really) is the only thing which keeps Eurofucks from being turned into total Putin's bitches. They are fucking dwarfs militarily speaking. Yes, even Germany. The rest are even bigger jokes. And please spare me the lecture on "benevolent Russia, wanting to live in ethernal peace with their neighbors" - their neighbors who don't enjoy NATO protection know the price of this illusion all too well.

Excellent point. The EU should be kissing our collective a$$.

CBOEtrader says

Excellent point. The EU should be kissing our collective a$$.

But they don't. We protect them, get the bill, AND we keep the oil flowing, which we also get the bill for, while they play backseat driver and tell everybody who much better and nicer they would have done it.

Europe produced 2 huge empires and several great powers. They can stand up for themselves and do a bit of the heavy lifting themselves.

CBOEtrader says

bob2356 says

Sorry, strictly middle of the road moderate, 25 year dues paying former republican at that.

Sounds like you are a neocon, like most D supporters. The D establishment is "middle of the road" neo fascism just like the neocons.

Perfect. I rest my case. The right has moved so far to the fringe of the political spectrum everything is left wing now.

Do you realize neocon stands for neo conservative, as in liberals who moved to conservative. Most came out of the socialist party and social democrats. It would be pretty seriously difficult for someone who registered republican at 18 and actually campaigned for Nixon, Ford, and Reagan to be a liberal who moved conservative. Like Irving Kristol said a neoconservative is a "liberal mugged by reality".

Looks like someone didn't do their homework on what the political terms mean.

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says

But they don't. We protect them, get the bill, AND we keep the oil flowing, which we also get the bill for, while they play backseat driver and tell everybody who much better and nicer they would have done it.

EU has also fallen into a free speech nightmare. Their forced multiculturalism and globalism is now a proven failed experiment.

#freetommyrobinson

CBOEtrader says

Classic liberalism is the foundation of our political system. Only the libertarians care to push for individual > group right

No it's not,, classic liberalism opposed democracy. Didn't read what I wrote I see. Trump endorses classic liberalism free trade also?

Libertarians are just hypocrites who believe the government spends too much money on other people.

bob2356 says

Didn't read what I wrote I see.

I read it. Laughed and moved on. You are deeply confused.

bob2356 says

classic liberalism opposed democracy.

Source? Are you talking about the fact that we are a republic which holds individual rights above mob law?

bob2356 says

Libertarians are just

...just the closest proponents of our constitutional republic? Then we agree.

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says

Europe produced 2 huge empires and several great powers

And two world wars 20 years apart.

bob2356 says

A great life? They were bought in as cheap labour then pretty much locked into the banileus with almost zero opportunity of getting out or getting out of poverty. Put in a job application with an address in one of the banlieue it will be circular filed Well documented. Unemployment in the banlieue is 40-50%.

If they didn't have a great life compared to what they had before, they would go back, wouldn't they?
Health care, education, welfare, with a European standard of living sure beats living in an African hut and hunting with spears.

bob2356 says

No it's not,, classic liberalism opposed democracy. Didn't read what I wrote I see. Trump endorses classic liberalism free trade also?

America was built on the Hamiltonian System of high tariffs and infrastructure investment.

Britain industrialized thanks to 200 previous years of hardcore mercantilism. Britain's world lead vanished a few decades after they embraced Free Trade to protectionist Germany and USA.

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says

Britain's world lead vanished a few decades after they embraced Free Trade to protectionist Germany and USA.

It must be cause and effect ? It couldn't be that they overextended themselves with their empire.

Relative to your point, it would be ironic if having Trump in power and our taking on protectionist policies ends up (in the long run) appearing to be the cause of our continued decreasing influence and relative wealth in the world.

Perhaps this is the master plan of the globalists ?

marcus says

It must be cause and effect ?

That difference was largely due to a United States benefiting from free markets as compared to a HIGHLY regulated great Britain. I'm sure an untapped natural wealth of resources in the USA (as compared to the UK) helped. However, if natural resources were the main driver of wealth creation, then Africa, Australia, and Asia would have all been competitors with the USA.

marcus says

Perhaps this is the master plan of the globalists ?

Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, and especially modern day China are the master plan template of the "globalists". The global elites don't want individual freedoms to get in the way of their plans for world domination. See the EU as an example.