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Gibberish pseudo-theory.

Of course, you could be on Trump's side and believe that lower corporate taxes will result in a passing on of the savings to employees in the form of fatter paychecks. You know you want to wear that red MAGA hat.

o, and I can provide numerous links that break down contribution by employees and contributions by employers. For an average family it is about 1/3 employee, 2/3 company. Again, I believe there is no evidence to show that employers will pass that 2/3 cost, around $10k or so, onto the employee in the form of a nice raise

Although I would admit that your argument, pay less and get more, is the American desire, but OTOH, you get what you pay for

No. no, it is the precise argument if you will be paying more in taxes under socialized medicine, and don't prefer to.

lol--- theory of supply and demand is gibberish pseudo-theory? Well, OK then

Except you don't. In the US, we pay double and get worse healthcare.

Luckily the country is run by majority so one person who pays more can't override 300 million that do.

Consider if all employers decide to apply their portion of their contribution to employees healthcare to other uses, e.g. invest internally, return to shareholders, etc. Nothing will have changed from this mythical supply and demand perspective. A given employee would not be getting a better deal elsewhere, under this assumption, and the status quo would be maintained

And so under a pay less scenario, you could still get worse healthcare.

but with regards to voting, it comes down to those who vote, not simple population based majorities.

Yes it will. Employee take home pay will be reduced. Employees would decide that the new pay wasn't enough and would quit.

Not according to every available study that Ive ever seen.

Employee pay after taxes might be reduced to pay for the increased taxes to fund socialized medicine, perhaps. but as the employer contribution is not represented on their current paycheck, when it is not longer provided, it can't in and of itself reduce the paycheck

Which you won't reference. To be clear, a reference describing how care will be better in the USA under a scenario of paying less would be interesting to see

Right--so, as I said, employee net pay is reduced

lol--you think I can't find those studes?

Is it that hard for you to accept reality--that healthcare access differs based on $$?

I don't think you understand them. Please point out in any of those links information verifying your belief that by paying less, care would improve.

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lol--if only it were that easy. Pretty sure a high school education and a job at Walmart doesn't keep you from being poor.

What is your opinion based on? The Brookings Institute studied decades of data.