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Infowars Website Traffic Explodes After Silicon Valley Blacklists Alex Jones Empire
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2018 Aug 12, 8:08am 12,124 views 61 comments
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CBOEtrader
2018 Aug 14, 7:59am
CBOEtrader
2018 Aug 14, 7:59am
bob2356 says
His stats certainly need to be checked, but his underlying point is rarely wrong or deceptive. Do your homework, understand what hes talking about and you will find his message far more transparent than any POTUS in our lifetime.
Saying chicago murder rates are highest in 30 years (or whatever he said) when he meant murder rate increase is highest in 30 years is a legit gaffe, but it's not a lie. Also very easy to see what hes talking about w one glance at the numbers. Also, any political response would be the same: try to lower murder rates.
Compare this to Obama using the debunked M/F wage gap myth to push his college student indoctrination program via his Title 9 "Dear Colleagues" letter. This is willful manipulation w a diabolical ulterior motive.
almost everything trump says is deceptive or simply false so I don't see how that argument can carry water.
His stats certainly need to be checked, but his underlying point is rarely wrong or deceptive. Do your homework, understand what hes talking about and you will find his message far more transparent than any POTUS in our lifetime.
Saying chicago murder rates are highest in 30 years (or whatever he said) when he meant murder rate increase is highest in 30 years is a legit gaffe, but it's not a lie. Also very easy to see what hes talking about w one glance at the numbers. Also, any political response would be the same: try to lower murder rates.
Compare this to Obama using the debunked M/F wage gap myth to push his college student indoctrination program via his Title 9 "Dear Colleagues" letter. This is willful manipulation w a diabolical ulterior motive.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 14, 5:47pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 14, 5:47pm
bob2356 says
Nope, it's a great example of how Bernie's numbers can be in the 50s and rated Mostly True, Trumps numbers - also in the 50s - can postulate it at 59% and be Mostly False.
That's why factchecking is biased bullshit determined by the "Accountability Journalism" of the factchecker. Friendly subjects get generous interpretations behind their statement, Evil Ones Who Must Be Stopped So We Can Change The World (tm)(R)'s statements are put through a tendentious ringer.
I don't see the bias. Bernie singled out a very specific narrow focus group high school graduates 17-20 not enrolled in school. The campaign provided their exact source for the claim. Politifact says his information is a little out of date but it's basically accurate. Trump said african american unemployment youth rate and the campaign provided no source for the number. Trump's numbers for that group were simply wrong by a big margin. Did you read the articles at all?
This is a perfect example of how ideological bias can either lead to invalid conclusions.and/or produce willful ignorance. .
You could argue that Bernie was being deceptive by using such a narrow group to come up with a shocking number, but almost everything trump says is deceptive or simply false so I don't see how that argument can carry water.
Nope, it's a great example of how Bernie's numbers can be in the 50s and rated Mostly True, Trumps numbers - also in the 50s - can postulate it at 59% and be Mostly False.
That's why factchecking is biased bullshit determined by the "Accountability Journalism" of the factchecker. Friendly subjects get generous interpretations behind their statement, Evil Ones Who Must Be Stopped So We Can Change The World (tm)(R)'s statements are put through a tendentious ringer.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 14, 5:50pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 14, 5:50pm
CBOEtrader says
Exactly. But the factchecker wouldn't compare the hours worked, flexibility, benefits, etc. of women's work to men's work and would quote the "Womyn are Paid less than men" as "Mostly True" without any contextualization.
That's the tendentious Accountability Journalism at work. The old standard of fairness, they would at least seek out and quote a think tank or researcher who provided contextualizing information.
Compare this to Obama using the debunked M/F wage gap myth to push his college student indoctrination program via his Title 9 "Dear Colleagues" letter. This is willful manipulation w a diabolical ulterior motive.
Exactly. But the factchecker wouldn't compare the hours worked, flexibility, benefits, etc. of women's work to men's work and would quote the "Womyn are Paid less than men" as "Mostly True" without any contextualization.
That's the tendentious Accountability Journalism at work. The old standard of fairness, they would at least seek out and quote a think tank or researcher who provided contextualizing information.
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MrMagic
2018 Aug 14, 6:23pm
MrMagic
2018 Aug 14, 6:23pm
TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
Wait, wait, wait.... but Snopes said....
That's why factchecking is biased bullshit determined by the "Accountability Journalism" of the factchecker. Friendly subjects get generous interpretations behind their statement, Evil Ones Who Must Be Stopped So We Can Change The World (tm)(R)'s statements are put through a tendentious ringer.
Wait, wait, wait.... but Snopes said....
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Infowars was recently banned by YouTube, Facebook, iTunes, Google Podcast, Spotify, iHeartRadio, MailChimp, Disqus, LinkedIn, Flickr, Pinterest and several others - leading many to wonder exactly how and why this was seemingly coordinated mass takedown took place between platforms.
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What's more, Jones says that 5.6 million people subscribed to the Infowars newsletter within 48 hours of his YouTube ban, according to the Daily Mail.
"Because I play devil's advocate, because I play both sides, they've taken me out of context, they are using me as a test case to try to bring an EU style web censorship," Jones said. "They've got mainline Democratic senators saying they ought to restrict Fox News, Tucker Carlson, Matt Drudge, the President himself. They are misrepresenting what I've said and done and are using that to set a precedent for internet wide de-platforming, censorship beyond what Russia does, what China does, ahead of the midterms (election). The whole thing is fake."
Meanwhile, a flood of new traffic has been driven to Infowars.com, which is probably paying a much higher CPM. It's entirely possible that if the newfound site visitors stick around, Jones would end up more profitable than before he was blacklisted.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-11/infowars-website-traffic-explodes-after-silicon-valley-blacklists-alex-jones-empire
This should make Marcus' head explode!