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Patrick
2018 Sep 5, 8:53am
Patrick
2018 Sep 5, 8:53am
Aphroman says
Not for long. In fact, it was a 131 billion dollar company before this campaign.
It will be interesting to see what the market thinks of businesses that get distracted by politics.
Nike is a 127 billion dollar company.
Not for long. In fact, it was a 131 billion dollar company before this campaign.
It will be interesting to see what the market thinks of businesses that get distracted by politics.
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socal2
2018 Sep 5, 9:15am
bob2356 says
You could say the same thing about ESPN and the NFL about knowing their customer base too.
How did that work out for them over the last few years with their SJW nonsense?
Do the trumpets really believe that a 35 billion dollar company doesn't know who they are selling to and advertise to appeal to the customer base?
You could say the same thing about ESPN and the NFL about knowing their customer base too.
How did that work out for them over the last few years with their SJW nonsense?
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 9:17am
socal2 says
Just fine. Viewership is down a lot more in NASCAR--is that because of Kapernick too?
You could say the same thing about ESPN and the NFL about knowing their customer base too.
How did that work out for them over the last few years with their SJW nonsense?
Just fine. Viewership is down a lot more in NASCAR--is that because of Kapernick too?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 9:40am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 9:40am
Patrick says
I wish I shorted some South African stocks before the land grab was formalized earlier this year. The SA ETF Down 25% YTD
I wish I owned Nike so I could sell it like I did when Starbucks started getting too political.
I wish I shorted some South African stocks before the land grab was formalized earlier this year. The SA ETF Down 25% YTD
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 9:41am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 9:41am
LeonDurham says
Well, if one sport loses viewers, then another sport must be losing viewers for the same reason.
Just fine. Viewership is down a lot more in NASCAR--is that because of Kapernick too?
Well, if one sport loses viewers, then another sport must be losing viewers for the same reason.
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socal2
2018 Sep 5, 9:45am
LeonDurham says
The NFL lost more viewers last year than there are total NASCAR viewers. NASCAR (and alot of auto-racing) is pretty niche and has had alot of ups and downs if other leagues like Indy Car or F1 are having an exciting year. Whereas the NFL had a pretty rock steady viewer base until all the kneeling B.S. last year.
Golf ratings are rising this year thanks to Tiger Woods playing better.
Viewership is down a lot more in NASCAR--is that because of Kapernick too?
The NFL lost more viewers last year than there are total NASCAR viewers. NASCAR (and alot of auto-racing) is pretty niche and has had alot of ups and downs if other leagues like Indy Car or F1 are having an exciting year. Whereas the NFL had a pretty rock steady viewer base until all the kneeling B.S. last year.
Golf ratings are rising this year thanks to Tiger Woods playing better.
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 9:53am
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Well, if there is a trend that all sports are losing viewers, then there might be something there, huh?
Well, if one sport loses viewers, then another sport must be losing viewers for the same reason.
Well, if there is a trend that all sports are losing viewers, then there might be something there, huh?
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Goran_K
2018 Sep 5, 10:05am
Goran_K
2018 Sep 5, 10:05am
LeonDurham says
Not the NBA, where Adam Silver threatened to discipline any kneelers, in a league where pretty much every player supported the kneeling movement.
Well, if there is a trend that all sports are losing viewers, then there might be something there, huh?
Not the NBA, where Adam Silver threatened to discipline any kneelers, in a league where pretty much every player supported the kneeling movement.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 10:12am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 10:12am
You have to explain the drop off that exceeds comparable Big League Sports (ie NBA, NHL, NBA, not NASCAR) and at a pace disproportionate to the unplugging of cable.
UBS study shows Protests were the #1 reason tuner-outers gave for not watching the NFL
UBS study shows Protests were the #1 reason tuner-outers gave for not watching the NFL
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 10:19am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 10:19am
It's interesting that Atlantic, Vox, and the "Missing Link" Media, along with the "Late Night Shows" immediately criticized, "Explained/Factchecked" (Left wing term for Tendentious Denigration and Dismissal) lampooned the Nike Boycott, but did not such thing re: In-And-Out Burger, which was far more ridiculous.
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mell
2018 Sep 5, 10:28am
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Nike: Instead of bettering the conditions of our Asian slave-workers, we fight for multi-millionaire NFL kneelers rights!
Social Justice Slave Labor Shoe (tm)
Nike: Instead of bettering the conditions of our Asian slave-workers, we fight for multi-millionaire NFL kneelers rights!
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 10:43am
mell says
Ah yes, I forgot. If you make a million dollars, you forfeit your right to protest. That's in the Constitution somewhere, right?
Nike: Instead of bettering the conditions of our Asian slave-workers, we fight for multi-millionaire NFL kneelers rights!
Ah yes, I forgot. If you make a million dollars, you forfeit your right to protest. That's in the Constitution somewhere, right?
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 10:45am
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
NASCAR drop is higher.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davecaldwell/2018/05/02/stock-car-fans-continue-racing-away-from-nascar/#715d7491df56
"The Richmond race had a 1.8 rating and three million viewers on Fox, down 38% in ratings and 34% in viewership from the 2017 spring race there (2.9, with 4.6 million viewers) — and down 42% in ratings and 36% in viewership from the 2016 race (3.1, with 4.7 million viewers)."
You have to explain the drop off that exceeds comparable Big League Sports (ie NBA, NHL, NBA, not NASCAR) and at a pace disproportionate to the unplugging of cable.
NASCAR drop is higher.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davecaldwell/2018/05/02/stock-car-fans-continue-racing-away-from-nascar/#715d7491df56
"The Richmond race had a 1.8 rating and three million viewers on Fox, down 38% in ratings and 34% in viewership from the 2017 spring race there (2.9, with 4.6 million viewers) — and down 42% in ratings and 36% in viewership from the 2016 race (3.1, with 4.7 million viewers)."
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 10:50am
Goran_K says
If you say so...
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/06/11/espn-takes-massive-ratings-hit-as-nba-finals-crumble/
"Worse, compared with the final game last year, the 2018 final game was down a whopping 30 percent over Game Five from 2017 (which itself brought 24.5 million pairs of eyes to their TV sets)."
Not the NBA, where Adam Silver threatened to discipline any kneelers, in a league where pretty much every player supported the kneeling movement.
If you say so...
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/06/11/espn-takes-massive-ratings-hit-as-nba-finals-crumble/
"Worse, compared with the final game last year, the 2018 final game was down a whopping 30 percent over Game Five from 2017 (which itself brought 24.5 million pairs of eyes to their TV sets)."
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socal2
2018 Sep 5, 10:50am
LeonDurham says
No - but that doesn't forfeit our right to call him, Nike (and their SJW fanboys) big fat hypocrites.
Ah yes, I forgot. If you make a million dollars, you forfeit your right to protest.
No - but that doesn't forfeit our right to call him, Nike (and their SJW fanboys) big fat hypocrites.
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mell
2018 Sep 5, 10:51am
LeonDurham says
No, you can protest all you want in your free time - and even at work if your employer allows it. Most don't.
mell says
Nike: Instead of bettering the conditions of our Asian slave-workers, we fight for multi-millionaire NFL kneelers rights!
Ah yes, I forgot. If you make a million dollars, you forfeit your right to protest. That's in the Constitution somewhere, right?
No, you can protest all you want in your free time - and even at work if your employer allows it. Most don't.
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 10:52am
mell says
So what does one's salary have to do with anything?
No, you can protest all you want in your free time - and even at work if your employer allows it. Most don't.
So what does one's salary have to do with anything?
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socal2
2018 Sep 5, 10:52am
LeonDurham says
Yet the Indy Racing League's ratings are improving.
https://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/column-indycar-on-an-upswing-as-nascar-stumbles-over-itself-040918
NASCAR drop is higher.
Yet the Indy Racing League's ratings are improving.
https://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/column-indycar-on-an-upswing-as-nascar-stumbles-over-itself-040918
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 10:53am
socal2 says
Are they? The article sure doesn't mention that.
Yet the Indy Racing League's ratings are improving.
https://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/column-indycar-on-an-upswing-as-nascar-stumbles-over-itself-040918
Are they? The article sure doesn't mention that.
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socal2
2018 Sep 5, 10:54am
LeonDurham says
Nike is saying that he "Sacrificed Everything".
Pretty sure Kap is still a millionaire and has virtually every elite media and Corporate head sucking his dick.
So what does one's salary have to do with anything?
Nike is saying that he "Sacrificed Everything".
Pretty sure Kap is still a millionaire and has virtually every elite media and Corporate head sucking his dick.
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 10:54am
socal2 says
So why is Kapernick a hypocrite exactly?
No - but that doesn't forfeit our right to call him, Nike (and their SJW fanboys) big fat hypocrites.
So why is Kapernick a hypocrite exactly?
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 10:55am
socal2 says
Yes, he hasn't played QB in the NFL for 2 years. That's a pretty big sacrifice.
Nike is saying that he "Sacrificed Everything".
Pretty sure Kap is still a millionaire and has virtually every elite media and Corporate head sucking his dick.
Yes, he hasn't played QB in the NFL for 2 years. That's a pretty big sacrifice.
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socal2
2018 Sep 5, 10:57am
"Unlike NASCAR, IndyCar on NBC actually saw an uptick in ratings"
http://awfulannouncing.com/racing/unlike-nascar-indycar-nbc-actually-saw-uptick-ratings.html
http://awfulannouncing.com/racing/unlike-nascar-indycar-nbc-actually-saw-uptick-ratings.html
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 11:00am
Also from that article:
"With ratings struggles seen across television no matter the sport, any league that can get any increase is certainly good news."
Thanks for posting that.
"With ratings struggles seen across television no matter the sport, any league that can get any increase is certainly good news."
Thanks for posting that.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 11:40am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 11:40am
It's funny that the NFL's prime audience is Middle Aged and especially Boomer Seniors.
The morons don't understand 18-35 Soyboys aren't going to start watching NFL unless they switch to tag foosball and have Furries get their nuts stamped on by Rosie O'Donnell at halftime.
"oooh yeah, punish my cruel White Privilege!"
The morons don't understand 18-35 Soyboys aren't going to start watching NFL unless they switch to tag foosball and have Furries get their nuts stamped on by Rosie O'Donnell at halftime.
"oooh yeah, punish my cruel White Privilege!"
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 12:31pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
What's funny is you think that middle aged people believe what you believe.
It's funny that the NFL's prime audience is Middle Aged and especially Boomer Seniors.
The morons don't understand 18-35 Soyboys aren't going to start watching NFL unless they switch to tag foosball and have Furries get their nuts stamped on by Rosie O'Donnell at halftime.
"oooh yeah, punish my cruel White Privilege!"
What's funny is you think that middle aged people believe what you believe.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:05pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:05pm
LeonDurham says
Most middle aged people in this country don't believe a well-paid Entertainer is a hero for disrespecting the national anthem.
What's funny is you think that middle aged people believe what you believe.
Most middle aged people in this country don't believe a well-paid Entertainer is a hero for disrespecting the national anthem.
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 1:07pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Again--what does someone's occupation have to do with anything? You can only protest if you work blue collar?
Most middle aged people in this country don't believe a well-paid Entertainer is a hero for disrespecting the national anthem.
Again--what does someone's occupation have to do with anything? You can only protest if you work blue collar?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:12pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:12pm
LeonDurham says
Kapernick is an employee on the company dime during prime work hours.
His situation is no different than a Rockette suddenly jumping in front of the stage and lecturing the audience about supporting Genderqueer Furries or they're Nazis, just before the curtain is raised.
Again--what does someone's occupation have to do with anything? You can only protest if you work blue collar?
Kapernick is an employee on the company dime during prime work hours.
His situation is no different than a Rockette suddenly jumping in front of the stage and lecturing the audience about supporting Genderqueer Furries or they're Nazis, just before the curtain is raised.
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 1:20pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
That's not what I asked. I'm wondering why you and Mell keep stressing that he's an entertainer who makes a lot of money? How is that relevant to whether or not an employer can ban his employee from free speech?
LeonDurham saysAgain--what does someone's occupation have to do with anything? You can only protest if you work blue collar?
Kapernick is an employee on the company dime during prime work hours.
That's not what I asked. I'm wondering why you and Mell keep stressing that he's an entertainer who makes a lot of money? How is that relevant to whether or not an employer can ban his employee from free speech?
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 1:21pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Or a Google employee lecturing his co-workers about their culture and hiring practices, right?
His situation is no different than a Rockette suddenly jumping in front of the stage and lecturing the audience about supporting Genderqueer Furries or they're Nazis, just before the curtain is raised.
Or a Google employee lecturing his co-workers about their culture and hiring practices, right?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:24pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:24pm
LeonDurham says
Possibly. But notice it was a forum for discussing corporate culture, and those who moaned about evil White Men weren't fired.
Maybe Politics needs to be added to non-discrimination laws. Tolerance!
Or a Google employee lecturing his co-workers about their culture and hiring practices, right?
Possibly. But notice it was a forum for discussing corporate culture, and those who moaned about evil White Men weren't fired.
Maybe Politics needs to be added to non-discrimination laws. Tolerance!
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:25pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:25pm
LeonDurham says
That's what he was, that was his job. There's no doubt his actions cost the NFL at least some paying customers and created problems for the enterprise.
That's not what I asked. I'm wondering why you and Mell keep stressing that he's an entertainer who makes a lot of money? How is that relevant to whether or not an employer can ban his employee from free speech?
That's what he was, that was his job. There's no doubt his actions cost the NFL at least some paying customers and created problems for the enterprise.
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 1:25pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Uh, isn't Kapernick protesting politics?
Maybe Politics needs to be added to non-discrimination laws. Tolerance!
Uh, isn't Kapernick protesting politics?
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 1:25pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Obviously--I'm wondering why you keep mentioning his job? Why not mention his hometown? Or favorite food?
That's what he was, that was his job. There's no doubt his actions cost the NFL at least some paying customers and created problems for the enterprise.
Obviously--I'm wondering why you keep mentioning his job? Why not mention his hometown? Or favorite food?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:25pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:25pm
LeonDurham says
You missed the bit where the Google Employee was discussing corporate culture on an internal forum about... Corporate Culture.
Uh, isn't Kapernick protesting politics?
You missed the bit where the Google Employee was discussing corporate culture on an internal forum about... Corporate Culture.
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LeonDurham
2018 Sep 5, 1:26pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Right--so that should be grounds for being fired, right?
You missed the bit where the Google Employee was discussing corporate culture on an internal forum about... Corporate Culture.
Right--so that should be grounds for being fired, right?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:26pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Sep 5, 1:26pm
LeonDurham says
Why not mention his job? How is his being the primary face of the organization as an athlete NOT relevant?
Obviously--I'm wondering why you keep mentioning his job? Why not mention his hometown? Or favorite food?
Why not mention his job? How is his being the primary face of the organization as an athlete NOT relevant?
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A Goddamn Canadian is saying the years of spending the equivalent of hundreds of billions of American (not Canadian, not Jamaican, not European) Tax Dollars was a "Global Achievement".
No it was the fuck not a Global Achievement. It was an American Achievement.