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The best case against Trump


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2018 Oct 7, 9:58am   19,916 views  210 comments

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I want to hear why a clear thinking adult would be anti-Trump.

What is your most well-reasoned anti-Trump argument? If you think he's a liar, please post the video. Or if you disagree with legislation he pioneered or executive orders, please post a link and reasoning.

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131   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:10pm  

TrumpingTits says
Yes but what we all saw on TV was a trial and not a job interview.


Nope--he wasn't going to jail no matter what happened. Worst case was he didn't become a Supreme Court Justice.

That's a job interview.
132   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:12pm  

PrivilegedtobeWhite says
LeonDurham - you should read the book entitled "The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting up a Generation for Failure". This could really change your life if you keep an open mind.


Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.
133   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:16pm  

CBOEtrader says
LOL this guy is hilarious. Dude the article points out first hand sworn accounts of people previously intimate with Ford who contradict her story. Grassley all but states he expects more contradictions when Ford's lawyers finally share all the evidence he is demanding. He also directly accuses the lawyers of not believing Ford's story and purely using the situation as a political weapon.

^^ is this how you define credible? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.


Nope. That's a lie. It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.

The fact that you have to exaggerate and outright lie about it says everything that needs to be said.
134   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:18pm  

CBOEtrader says
That's a wrap. Trump is weaker on environmental regulations in favor of economic expansion.


Did you miss the part about his shitty tax plan? Or did you purposely ignore it?
135   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 8, 5:53pm  

I love the SNAP Food Box, what a great idea. This way we make sure kids get good food and not just Chips and Mac n' Cheese from Shanaynay and Luanne

Libbies love Farm Boxes too, they are always signing up for them at the Farmer's Market.
136   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 5:57pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
This way we make sure kids get good food and not just Chips and Mac n' Cheese from Shanaynay and Luanne


How could anyone think Trump supporters are racist?
137   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 8, 6:39pm  

LeonDurham says
How could anyone think Trump supporters are racist?



You ever meet a black chick named Luanne?
138   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 8, 6:41pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

You ever meet a black chick named Luanne?


I've never met anyone named luanne
140   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2018 Oct 8, 8:05pm  

TrumpingTits says
LeonDurham says
A job interview is different from a trial.

Yes but what we all saw on TV was a trial and not a job interview.


It was an attempted character assassination. Well, at least now he will have something to remember liberals by, every time he judges a case in the future. Which is what probably scares feminists more than anything else.
141   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2018 Oct 8, 8:09pm  

LeonDurham says
Even Fox News called her credible FFS


For your sake I hope English is your "second language", or even distant "third" because that would be the only legitimate excuse for not understanding English.
Do you understand the meaning of "credible"? It doesn't mean accurate, or truthful. Nigerian billionaire is credible too.

FBI report came out and said accusation is false, her best friends who she said were witnesses, all came back and said that they did not witness anything like that or saw anything like that.
142   Strategist   2018 Oct 8, 8:12pm  

Booger says


I always knew exercise was good for you.
143   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 9, 1:15am  

LeonDurham says
It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.


You are missing the point, probably because you still havent read the article and have no idea what we're talking about.

Ford's ex boyfriend and Fords own testimony as it changed over time each contradicts her testimony before Senate. These are facts. Try to keep up.
144   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 9, 1:20am  

LeonDurham says
It points out first hand sworn accounts that don't corroborate Ford. That's a BIG difference from contradicting.


This is also inaccurate though. Ford's childhood friend stated the party "never happened". She has since testified that Ford's FBI friend pressured her to change her testimony to "not remembering a party like that". The point of this deception is specifically so people whose brains are soft for propaganda have the reaction you just had.

Congrats on being the propagandists' target audience.
145   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 9, 1:25am  

LastMan says
He cut taxes without cutting spending first. In fact, he's on a spending binge.


I'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.

We will see what his track record w the deficit is after he has had a chance to both cut spending and let the economy grow from the tax cuts.

The debt is 50 years in the making and just doubled under Obama, so let's keep this in some perspective. At some point giant crashes will clean out the system. Under which president ? That's like a giant game of Russian roulette
146   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 9, 9:57am  

I seem to remember the President NOT being happy with the omnibus bill.
147   LastMan   2018 Oct 9, 4:32pm  

CBOEtrader says
I'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.


I'm disappointed that you missed the point. He's increasing spending while cutting taxes. Debt is ballooning. We don't have to wait to see that he's failing on the financial front. Usually politicians promise fiscal responsibility some time in the distant future; I'm not even sure he's doing that.
148   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 9, 5:36pm  

I'm so old, I remember an October not long ago when Obama, Hillary, the entire Democratic Party, and the Media was lecturing me about accepting the outcome of an election.
149   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 9, 5:52pm  

Aphroman says
Two years later and the Trumpcucks are still bitter that Hillary received more votes. How sad is that?


Completely missed the point.

Let me explain it special for you.

The Democrats spent the weeks before the election demanding that Trump Voters accept the outcome of the election.

They then spent the next two years trying to delegitimize Trump by any means necessary. They literally flipped their script 180 the day after the election. That's called gross hypocrisy.



www.youtube.com/embed/pJB0Ag72bEs
150   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 9, 6:52pm  

I cant even follow what or who aphro is attempting to parody.
151   RWSGFY   2018 Oct 9, 6:53pm  

Aphroman says
As an Independent


ROTFLMAO
152   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 9, 7:03pm  

Aphroman says
Is turnabout suddenly NOT fair play?


I don't remember the Republicans, the Media, Big Tech, and all Academia trying to say Obama wasn't a real President, that his election was hacked by Russia, and that he was an actual fascist supported only by Racists.


Again, all the Forces of Influence in this country said in October 2016 that Trump and his supporters have to accept the election results, then spent the next two years "explaining" how he allegedly colluded with Putin to take over the US Election process.
153   anonymous   2018 Oct 9, 7:16pm  

LeonDurham says
PrivilegedtobeWhite says
LeonDurham - you should read the book entitled "The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas are Setting up a Generation for Failure". This could really change your life if you keep an open mind.


Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.
Start with page 1 and keep going...
154   Strategist   2018 Oct 9, 7:16pm  

LastMan says
CBOEtrader says
I'm glad you re recognize that one must come before the other, not all at once.


I'm disappointed that you missed the point. He's increasing spending while cutting taxes. Debt is ballooning. We don't have to wait to see that he's failing on the financial front.


Wall Street is the ultimate judge on the economy and economic policies. Wall Street has concluded "increasing spending while cutting taxes" will benefit the economy at this point in time.
I would go with Wall Street.
155   Strategist   2018 Oct 9, 7:20pm  

Aphroman says
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
I'm so old, I remember an October not long ago when Obama, Hillary, the entire Democratic Party, and the Media was lecturing me about accepting the outcome of an election.


Two years later and the Trumpcucks are still bitter that Hillary received more votes. How sad is that?


No Aphroman, no. It would be the Democrats who are bitter, having lost the election even though they got more votes.
156   Strategist   2018 Oct 9, 7:55pm  

Aphroman says
Donald Trump claimed Obama was a foreign born Muslin to this day.


That he did, and knowingly lied. I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.
157   Patrick   2018 Oct 9, 8:35pm  

Strategist says
I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.


Agreed. We don't need a nice president. We need an effective president, and we finally got one, somehow.
159   Strategist   2018 Oct 10, 9:52am  

Aphroman says
Strategist says
Aphroman says
Donald Trump claimed Obama was a foreign born Muslin to this day.


That he did, and knowingly lied. I'm sure he also cheated on his wives, his taxes, and in his business dealings. It's all irrelevant. What matters is, is he good for the country and the world when it comes to the most pressing issues we face? Is he good for the economy, is he capable of dealing with Islam and dictators. That is all that matters.


Most importantly is he good for our Sovereignty


I don't recall our sovereignty ever being questioned or even an issue.
160   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 10, 4:42pm  

Patrick says


Agreed. We don't need a nice president. We need an effective president, and we finally got one, somehow.


Why do Trump supporters keep pretending that peoples' objections to Trump are because he isn't "nice"?

I don't care if he's nice. I care that his policies are crap. The latest revelation is that he personally lobbied for Sheldon Adelson with the Japanese Prime Minister after Adelson donated to his campaign and Republicans. Drain the swamp, indeed.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-lobbied-japans-abe-on-casino-for-adelson-report/

“It was totally brought up out of the blue,” one person briefed on the exchange told ProPublica/WNYC. “They were a little incredulous that he would be so brazen.” After the exchange in which Trump said he should consider Las Vegas Sands for a license, “Abe didn’t really respond, and said thank you for the information,” the person said"

I know, I know. But, but, but... Hillary's emails.
161   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 10, 4:44pm  

PrivilegedtobeWhite says
Interesting, but fail to see how it will change my life.
Start with page 1 and keep going...


OK, read it. Still don't see the relevancy to me. Do you think I'm anti free speech?
162   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 10, 4:46pm  

LeonDurham says
I don't care if he's nice. I care that his policies are crap. The latest revelation is that he personally lobbied for Sheldon Adelson with the Japanese Prime Minister after Adelson donated to his campaign and Republicans. Drain the swamp, indeed.


OMG, he did? I'm sure Obama never lobbied anybody personally for a donor, and we all know Hillary would never, ever, do anything.

I know, I know, to mention that Democrats do it is whataboutery, and we shouldn't interrupt criticism of Trump with pesky reminders that every politician, including and especially Democrats, have done so.
163   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 10, 4:53pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
OMG, he did? I'm sure Obama never lobbied anybody personally for a donor, and we all know Hillary would never, ever, do anything.


I don't know of any time Obama did, and judging by Abe's reaction, it definitely appears that nobody had done anything remotely like it in the past.

Regardless, didn't you vote for Trump because you THOUGHT he was different?

Will you ever admit that you were taken by a snake oil salesman?
164   Strategist   2018 Oct 10, 4:55pm  

LeonDurham says
Why do Trump supporters keep pretending that peoples' objections to Trump are because he isn't "nice"?

I don't care if he's nice. I care that his policies are crap. The latest revelation is that he personally lobbied for Sheldon Adelson with the Japanese Prime Minister after Adelson donated to his campaign and Republicans. Drain the swamp, indeed.


Lobbying for Sheldon Adelson is not even a policy.
It seems to me you don't like him for whatever reason, and keep digging for something that makes him look bad. That's an obsession.
165   Strategist   2018 Oct 10, 4:56pm  

LeonDurham says
Will you ever admit that you were taken by a snake oil salesman?


I was. By Obama when I voted for him for his 2nd term.
166   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 10, 5:01pm  

Strategist says

Lobbying for Sheldon Adelson is not even a policy.


Sorry, you're right. Pay for play isn't a policy, it's another example of the corruptness of Trump and his cronies. He is the worst of the swamp creatures and it's no surprise that his cabinet was full of men and women of similar morals.
167   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 10, 5:01pm  

Strategist says

I was. By Obama when I voted for him for his 2nd term.


Surprised you repeated the mistake again in the next election.
168   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 10, 5:13pm  

LeonDurham says
Regardless, didn't you vote for Trump because you THOUGHT he was different?


I voted for tariffs, NAFTA renegotiation, less boots on the ground, less rapefugees, more restrictions on immigration from states with Islamist Violence, anti-PC, the #2A, Israel, and the Wall.

I already got most of what I want and it's not halfway in his Term yet. Very pleased.

I voted for Obama in 2008 for a new Glass-Steagal. Instead I got some kind of Heavily Corporate Subsidized "Heath Care", intended to be as mandatory as Car Insurance. And a reversal of race relations, and a lot of Franz Fanon Turd Worlder Talk, Michael Froman of Citigroup vetting the Entire Cabinet, and a betrayal of Israel as a final move.
169   LeonDurham   2018 Oct 10, 5:16pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

I voted for tariffs, NAFTA renegotiation, less boots on the ground, anti-PC, the #2A, and the Wall.


lol--yeah, you really got what you wanted with the NAFTA renegotiation. What happened to all your posts about soy boy Trudeau caving??

Are there fewer boots on the ground?

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
I voted for Obama in 2008 for Bank Regulation. I got some kind of Heavily Subsidized Corporate "Heath Care" instead, intended to be as mandatory as Car Insurance.


Well, you're definitely not getting bank regulation now. That's for damn sure.
170   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 10, 5:18pm  

LeonDurham says
lol--yeah, you really got what you wanted with the NAFTA renegotiation. What happened to all your posts about soy boy Trudeau caving??


You must have missed it. Trudeau caved like Jacques Cousteau in the Blue Hole of Belize. Opened the Canadian Diary Market wide, and got minimum North American Parts for autos increased.



LeonDurham says
Well, you're definitely not getting bank regulation now. That's for damn sure.



I didn't get any bank regulation right on the heels of a massive banking crisis with Dems controlling the House & Presidency.

But a lot of blah blah about Henri Louis Gates being the victim of racism because people saw a dude trying to open windows on a house in broad daylight and the cops asking what he was doing.

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