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Can anyone refute this guy's argument against Democrat open border immigration?


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2018 Nov 29, 8:37am   10,489 views  74 comments

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www.youtube.com/embed/LPjzfGChGlE

If so I'd like to hear the argument.

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63   komputodo   2018 Dec 1, 9:18am  

Herdingcats says
They advocate for passion for those that have made it here.


Passion or compassion?
64   Sunnyvale94087   2018 Dec 1, 1:32pm  

Herdingcats says
Why was there less illegals in the US in 2016 than in 2008 if Democrats support an open border policy?

Easy answer: Change the way illegals are counted.

When you say "less" are you referring to the quality of the illegals? If so it should be "lesser." If you are referring to a countable quantity of illegals then the correct word is "fewer."
65   Onvacation   2018 Dec 2, 8:19am  

Herdingcats says
None has been linked.

This is a great example of iwogian logic.
66   Onvacation   2018 Dec 2, 8:21am  

Herdingcats says
Does ICE = boarder patrol? What do sectuary cities have to do with open boarders? Or what does SF registering illegals to vote for education issues at we're their legal kids go to school have to do with open boarders?

But iwog was a better speller.
67   Onvacation   2018 Dec 2, 9:49am  

Herdingcats says
why didn't the Democrats do it in 2008-2010 when they had control of Congress

Too busy bailing out the banks and subsidizing the insurance companies.
68   Y   2018 Dec 2, 10:36am  

ICE does not patrol bed and breakfast establishments...
Onvacation says
Does ICE = boarder patrol?
69   MrMagic   2018 Dec 2, 10:46am  

Herdingcats says
The number of unauthorized immigrants living in the United States was lower in 2016 than at any time since 2004. If the Democrats really truly wanted an open border policy why did the amount of illegals drop so drastically under Obama?

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/


How do you know that for sure? That article is basing it on "Estimates". If they entered illegally and weren't caught, how does anyone know they're here? Is Pew good at counting ghosts?

Does Pew call all these illegals on their cell phones to ask them if they are in the country illegally?
71   Sunnyvale94087   2018 Dec 2, 12:24pm  

Herdingcats says
Also above I saw that I added an e to sat. I meant "sat on their hands .

And it's "were" not "was" in your original. :-)
72   Sunnyvale94087   2018 Dec 2, 12:27pm  

Herdingcats says
So no response to the fact that there was fewer illegal aliens at the end of Obama's term than at the start?

How about the fact that the amount of ICE agents increased during Obama's term. Wouldn't one expect the amount of agents to decrease if as was opined above the democrats wanted to abolish ICE?

(1) Change how you count illegals. Or don't count them at all, for that matter.
(2) More agents, but not allowed to do their job effectively. Obama agents are merely handing out bottles of water and seeing to it that illegals get on the right bus headed towards their illegal relatives. Much more effective would be 1/4 the number of agents that are allowed to shoot on sight.

I realize the above response is "embellished," but you get the point.
73   komputodo   2018 Dec 2, 2:36pm  

No but they really need to reform the illegal immigrant policy in regards to the illegals that have several years working in the USA first. How about making the illegals legal by having them fingerprinted, retinal scans or whatever and having them agree to sign documents stating that they will not apply for any govt economic programs and also charge them a fee which can be paid in payments...When they have payed in full, they receive a work permit and be on the road to becoming a legal citizen if they follow the rules. This way there is no worry that they are going to just live off of welfare
74   HeadSet   2018 Dec 2, 2:46pm  

komputodo says
No but they really need to reform the illegal immigrant policy in regards to the illegals that have several years working in the USA first. How about making the illegals legal by having them fingerprinted, retinal scans or whatever and having them agree to sign documents stating that they will not apply for any govt economic programs and also charge them a fee which can be paid in payments...When they have payed in full, they receive a work permit and be on the road to becoming a legal citizen if they follow the rules. This way there is no worry that they are going to just live off of welfare


Why not just follow the procedures for legal immigration? Why cater to people who cut in line?

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