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But that's mostly just the general statement that a cheap used car running well is cheaper than any new car of any sort.
Not true, a used electric/hybrid car will probably need a full new train of batteries, some $3K-$5K , the same cost as a used Civic.Good point, although for someone who only needs a car with 25 mile range, a 6 year old Leaf with old battery might work out to be pretty cheap.
Rin saysNot true, a used electric/hybrid car will probably need a full new train of batteries, some $3K-$5K , the same cost as a used Civic.Good point, although for someone who only needs a car with 25 mile range, a 6 year old Leaf with old battery might work out to be pretty cheap.
Question: does an electric car with old battery lose battery efficiency as well as range? (i.e.: I still pay $5 in house electricity to fill up, but now I only go 25 miles on the $5 instead of 70 miles.)
Buy what makes the most sense, new or used and what gives you the absolute best value for what you want to spend - not what the advertisers tell you need to drive to make your "statement" or your life fulfilled and complete.
this is about the whole EV craze and how that's suppose to change the world when EVs are expensive, need constant charging, and that charging stations aren't ubiquitous across the nation.
EVs are expensive, need constant charging, and that charging stations aren't ubiquitous across the nation..
If electrics become cheaper and can go 200 miles on a charge, then maybe EVs would fit 50% of the country. We can worry about huge adoption when those EV capabilities are available.
SunnyvaleCA saysIf electrics become cheaper and can go 200 miles on a charge, then maybe EVs would fit 50% of the country. We can worry about huge adoption when those EV capabilities are available.
Ok, but that's a long ways away from today. The way EV fans are talking, it's like any day, the EVs will replace the ICE.
by charging up overnight and running the EV's for that 60-100 mile commute
everything saysby charging up overnight and running the EV's for that 60-100 mile commute
Those ad hoc assignments in Providence, means adding 2 days x 120 miles roundtrip, outside of a daily 40 mile average.
So let's not talk about the future and deal with the matters of today. Ppl need freedom on the road, not limitations.
using a conventional ICE car. I've once or twice picked a friend up from SFO airport during work hours, but I know that is coming in advance and would thus know to use the ICE car that day (plus schedule 2+ hours of time off during the day).
If electrics become cheaper and can go 200 miles on a charge, then maybe EVs would fit 50% of the country. We can worry about huge adoption when those EV capabilities are available.
I'm surprised sharp financial whiz like Rin would make sweeping generalized statements like that. A used Civic is the most basic transportation tool.
Why Rin hires a driver, if piloting his Accord is most economically astute?
But we do know our exponential consumption of fossil fuel is killing people and the environment. Just because you don't see a smokey plume coming out of modern ICE cars doesnt mean nasty pollution is not spewing out. There is a huge but not obvious health, medical cost of widespread ICE use that is essentially a societal subsidy to the fossil fuel industry.
the dirtiest of them all, at some 27+%
kt1652 saysWhy Rin hires a driver, if piloting his Accord is most economically astute?
"Didn't I already say this? My firm allows me to expense all livery service and thus, it's a part of my normal expense account. The Accord is sitting in my garage, in case I need to go out on my own alone."
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I see, "Let them eat cake, the unwashed should be content to drive beater Civics while we, the privileged class can be chauffeured to our clandestine rendezuous in luxury on expense account.
Autonomous vehicles is the equalizer and I cannot wait.
I see, "Let them eat cake, the unwashed should be content to drive beater Civics while we, the privileged class can be chauffeured to our clandestine rendezuous in luxury on expense account.
http://patrick.net/post/1322772/2019-03-01-rin-spoke-with-prius-owners-on-the-nissan-leaf
Ok, this fella bought a used 2005 Honda Civic several years ago when he was only earning $40K/yr for ~$5K. Since then, he's put in only $1K repairs and has had no issues with the car.
Today, he's earning $65K/yr from his 40 hour job (which is really a 36 hour week) and he's a Cisco subcontractor, billing out 8-16 hours/wk, for an additional $20K-$40K.
Long story short, despite now clearing $85K-$100K, he's got no interest in upgrading nor buying into the EV thing. He puts all of his unspent earnings into savings and investments. He expects to drive that Civic for some 12-15 years before swapping it for a newer one and even that, he's getting it used.