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Until the last 20 years, I never knew a single scholar or Historian that denied Jesus was a real person and his Story from the official Roman POV was accurate. Meaning he was killed for being a rabble rouser and upsetting the order with the Jewish temple on Pass over. The rest is up to debate depending on how religious you are. But Jesus was doccumented as real person about 2000 years ago.
If Jesus story wasn't real
Islam is Christianity +beheadings of non believers
FortWayneIndiana says Islam is Christianity +beheadings of non believersNope, Jesus is the core of Christianity whereas the core of Islam are psychopathic Mohammed and at least two Caliphates.
He was a conqueror of Arabia and his first Caliphate was the conqueror of other places. This a religion based entirely upon a barbarian and his clan's will to power.
My point is ... who cares? We know that Paul saw him as a vision and that the only historian from Jesus's time was Josephus Flavius. The rest is up to faith.
It's why I see Islam as Christianity with addition of what you call ravings of a lunatic Mohammed (murder, beheadings, etc...) they just added chapter 3. Muslims see it as Christianity plus toughness, they don't actually see what they do as murder.
Rome never once challenged the account of what happened to Jesus, but they did persecute his followers. Explain that?
You don't have to deny anything about the religion just by proving or saying that never happened. That would have been the end of it.
In effect, one might even say that Christianity was predicted by Zoroastrian writings, long before Rome was able to extract territories in the near east.
According to Rin the last 20 years of the Internet never happened because Facebook, Twitter, and Google has erased it.
the last 20 years of the Internet never happened
refer you to Lee Strobel’s book “The Case for Christ.”
Christian - chapter 2 - Jesus and a story of sacrifice and cooperation
Quigley saysNuttBoxer saysSo atrocities, wars, etc are less evil the more time passes?Any reasonable person would agree that events of 1000 years ago shouldn’t be an excuse for current day hostilities along the extremely distant progeny of those involved or their cultural equivalents.It goes beyond the whole 1000 year strawman set up of a person like NuttBoxer. It's the fact that today, church or church-like leaders & subleaders of any denomination, will not advocate bombings as a way to instill Christian will and philosophy onto the general public without themselves, either being kicked out by their parishioners or arrested by local law enforcement. I'm sure now, NuttBoxer will bring up the Catholic Croatians vs Eastern Orthodox Serbians as another strawman so I'll bring this up ... neither...the Pope (a/o his underlings) nor the Patriarch of the Eastern Church (a/o his underlings) will advocate for the Bosnian genocide.Pope Urban II of the Crusades has been gone for a millennium. His legacy does not live on since he's not really advocating the teachings of Christ but his own empire building initiative of the middle ages.And I'm using my former hometown of Cambridge MA, where yes, there's an Islamic center where teachers/clerics advocate violence TODAY, as per the Koran/Mohammed's teachings, to justify their cause but in contrast, within the same square mile, none of the other religious gathering buildings do the same. I've given the opportunity for some of the other non-Muslim sub-nationalities [ 90 - Islamic countries ] to show that they're the equivalent of Islam when they're not and the fact remains that only one religion within the most multi-ethnic and religious area, circa Boston, advocates violence.If the Tsarnaev brothers were Orthodox or Jews from the former USSR, chances are that today, Dzhokhar would be a successful physical therapist, living the American Dream in the greater Boston area, instead of on death row. It's Islam and in particular, Islamic teachings from 204 Prospect St Cambridge MA which has made him what he is.
NuttBoxer saysSo atrocities, wars, etc are less evil the more time passes?Any reasonable person would agree that events of 1000 years ago shouldn’t be an excuse for current day hostilities along the extremely distant progeny of those involved or their cultural equivalents.
So atrocities, wars, etc are less evil the more time passes?