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Douglas Macgregor in The American Conservative:

"Washington’s globalist-neocon leadership assured Zelensky that he and his government would have the financial and military backing of the United States and its NATO allies "for as long as it takes..." Claims of Ukrainian battlefield successes from the popular "Ghost of Kiev" to the recovery of Bakhmut turned out to be flatulence on steroids. When NATO members met in Vilnius in July 2023, the mood had changed. Ukraine’s fate, let alone its membership in NATO, would be determined by the outcome of the Ukrainian Army’s celebrated counteroffensive.

As Ukrainian losses mounted and Ukraine’s counteroffensive failed catastrophically, things went seriously wrong for Washington... The hunt for an exit strategy from Ukraine without openly calling it such was underway...

Thus, the descent of the collective West into a Hell of its own making continues. Washington and its NATO allies confront a distasteful choice: Acknowledge Moscow’s legitimate national security interest in Ukraine and end the bloodbath, or risk dragging Europe into a devastating regional war for which Europeans and Americans are not prepared."

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/washington-on-the-knife-edge/

https://twitter.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1709371713186615361

Looks like I will have to skip a step or two when I update this:

The latest from Col. Macgregor:

Col Douglas Macgregor: The Russians Press On And Take Odessa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv7U34uxiU0

WookieMan says

For all we know there is no war in Ukraine.

Yeah, this is not crazy idea, this is possible. No need to take Ukraine war reporting at face value. We live in a crazy world of propaganda and manipulation.

Latest from Macgregor ... his take on Israel conflict and how it might lead to a broader conflict.

Col Douglas Macgregor Latest Update On The World War

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmWIns19gPw

Here's the unfiltered truth about Ukraine.

The US is almost certainly getting ready to ramp it down and make a deal or freeze the conflict.

That's what I get out of this post, and reading some lamestream media today, all getting much more tame on Ukraine.

There are not enough arms for both wars.

AmericanKulak says

Here's the unfiltered truth about Ukraine.

The US is almost certainly getting ready to ramp it down and make a deal or freeze the conflict.

That's what I get out of this post, and reading some lamestream media today, all getting much more tame on Ukraine.

I believe that the claim that Ukraine has reclaimed more than 1/2 of the territory that Russia seized, as false. What territory did Russia have, and what was reclaimed?

I am sick and tired of government assholes lying to the public. I know Russia has drawn back in small territories, but it's small to my knowledge. I'm disgusted that it's now considered standard operating procedure, and acceptable, for government officials to lie to the public. If Blinken is lying about this, any statement he makes forward (unless he makes a retraction) should be assumed to be untrue. I'm tired of government officials lying.

What he's talking about is a measurable metric. If he's incorrect, it's provably incorrect. He has greater access to information than I do, I can smell bullshit here, so either he's right and I'm wrong and I don't have sufficient information because I have poor media, OR he's an idiot, OR he's lying.

If he's lying or an idiot, he should be fired, but he won't be. Liars are given promotions in our government.

Ukraine, IF I can trust the information I'm receiving is a bloodbath for the Ukrainians. The people that caused this bloodshed should be executed if I'm correct. I suggest Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt to be executed to start with. This war from its inception wasn't possible for Ukraine to win, and no war should be fought without a reasonable expectation of victory. Ukraine should have surrendered immediately in my opinion, but time will tell. I believe 100's of thousands of Ukrainians have been killed, but I know propaganda. Hopefully, I've been fooled. It's a tragedy if I'm properly informed.

richwicks says

"I believe that the claim that Ukraine has reclaimed more than 1/2 of the territory that Russia seized, as false. What territory did Russia have, and what was reclaimed?"

True. Russia is defeating NATO and the US in Ukraine massively and decisively.

Latest from Macgregor...

Col Douglas Macgregor: "The Russians Are Annihilating Everything" (audio)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3JwBBFoIA8

richwicks says

I know Russia has drawn back in small territories, but it's small to my knowledge.

How do you know this ? What authentic sources are you referencing to know this ?

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ad says

How do you know this ? What authentic sources are you referencing to know this ?

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/NmAqqO8nLvua/

https://www.youtube.com/@DouglasMacgregorFanChannel/videos

Take it with a grain of salt but those two are the most accurate about the conflict. Macgregor is useless on predictions.

Basically Russia doesn't seem to be advancing or retreating, and of course the same would be true of Ukraine.

Ukraine I predict to fall out of the news and the war will go on for years quietly. The war should have never been fought.

richwicks says

Basically Russia doesn't seem to be advancing or retreating, and of course the same would be true of Ukraine.

Actually, Russia has started to advance. The Ukey offensive is officially dead and the Russians are pouring across the lines....all of them.

Hundreds of tanks and APCs involved. But mostly it is the massive amounts of mobile artillery involved that is going to make the difference.

So why aren't you hearing about this on the news?

Awfully convenient, this Israel thing eh?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/13/russia-ukraine-war-00121464

GasTheYoungTurks says

Actually, Russia has started to advance. The Ukey offensive is officially dead and the Russians are pouring across the lines....all of them.

Hundreds of tanks and APCs involved. But mostly it is the massive amounts of mobile artillery involved that is going to make the difference.

So why aren't you hearing about this on the news?

No way to know if it's true or false at least not yet.

I bet Russia will eventually get to the Dnieper river, but I also predict that's long in the future, like years. I also wouldn't be surprised if Russia takes southern Ukraine and make them landlocked. I think it would be a bit of a dick move for Russia to cut them off from the Black Sea.

richwicks says

I think it would be a bit of a dick move for Russia to cut them off from the Black Sea

Or a long-term strategic move. The whole annexation of Crimea and then the invasion was started to prevent the Black Sea from becoming a NATO lake.

Latest from Col. Douglas Macgregor:

"World War 3? Will the US fight the Muslim, Russia and China?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgGgI3xDp4c

Great information provided by Doug MacGregor:

"Get ready, we are going to ATTACK Iran" Col. Douglas MacGregor | Redacted with Clayton Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le-Ktsau_iM

RayAmerica says

Great information provided by Doug MacGregor:

"Get ready, we are going to ATTACK Iran" Col. Douglas MacGregor | Redacted with Clayton Morris

God damn, I don't like Biden at all. MacGregor is maybe one of the dumbest "pundits" on the planet. He knows nothing and is so full of shit for the last 3 years it's fucking hysterical anyone takes him seriously.

As dumb as Biden is we're not getting into a war with Iran. You're a common retard if you think that or believe what dip shit MacGregor spouts off about.

For the REAL State of the Union ...

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: 3/7/2024 State of the Union Response

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SW3IbcH40c

RayAmerica says

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: 3/7/2024 State of the Union Response

Just embedding it:


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richwicks says

RayAmerica says

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: 3/7/2024 State of the Union Response

Just embedding it:

Lol. Let's listen to a guy that was a career military guy about economy and politics that was wrong in 4 weeks with Ukraine. He has no clue what is going on. Biden sucks for sure. He just hits every right wing points. There's nuance to all leadership. He shows his bias. He's regurgitating what everyone knows. There's are dozens that have said what he did literally years ago. This is basically plagiarism on the back of a fake military "degree" and label.

Anyone that thinks this guy got where did in the US military without sucking dicks is insane. He literally just copied for 10 minutes what others have said for years. I can't stand this guy, yet dip shits think this guy is some authority. It would be like listening and believing Bill Gates about vaccines. Think about it.... Like really think.

I mean seriously, you guys do understand what this dude is doing right? Or am I the smartest person in the room?

Very good recent interview of Col. Douglas MacGregor:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Gerald Celente

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq0k13rVJXE

WookieMan says

Lol. Let's listen to a guy that was a career military guy about economy and politics that was wrong in 4 weeks with Ukraine.

Sure, let's listen to the government that has been wrong for 2 years about Ukraine. They're going to win any day now. Just have sent another 100 billion dollars and get another 200,000 Ukrainian conscripts killed.

At least he recognizes at this point there's no way for Ukraine to win this conflict, and that it should have been entirely avoided. All it's done is get a bunch of people killed and raised the price of energy in Europe, probably exactly the outcome our government wanted.

richwicks says

All it's done is get a bunch of people killed and raised the price of energy in Europe, probably exactly the outcome our government wanted.

Blinken said with a smirk that Germany can depend on the USA for LNG after the Nordstream pipeline explosion. I see how German Green Party types welcome the increase in natural gas prices because they think its going to cause a faster transition to renewable energy.

Did you all read or see on the news about the Pope calling for Ukraine to "raise the white flag" and negotiate with the Russians.

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AD says

Did you all read or see on the news about the Pope calling for Ukraine to "raise the white flag" and negotiate with the Russians.

Nope, but I was raised Catholic, and any report about what the Pope supposedly said, is often just bullshit, so I ignore it. The pope supposedly has ordained gay marriage, according to the "news". No - that RCC doesn't change that quickly. It's a nearly 2000 year old institution, and they go for the long haul.

RayAmerica says

https://www.youtube.com/DouglasMacgregorStraightCalls/about

Douglas Macgregor is a decorated combat veteran, the author of five books, a PhD, and a Defense and Foreign Policy consultant.

I'll just ask ohomen and elena.

If anyone hurts her I'm going to be pissed:

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

There are not enough arms for both wars.

I misread this as 'not enough YAMS for both wars'

komputodo says

If anyone hurts her I'm going to be pissed:

If she doesn't flee, she'll be gangraped to death by an entire division of RA soldiers who win a contest of who reaches Kyiv first.

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1766024481053552951

richwicks says

Sure, let's listen to the government that has been wrong for 2 years about Ukraine. They're going to win any day now. Just have sent another 100 billion dollars and get another 200,000 Ukrainian conscripts killed.

Lol to the max. Mcgregor IS government. He IS the problem. You should hate this guy. He's also been provably wrong about Ukraine for literally 2 years. He said Russia would take Ukraine in weeks. I still can't laugh harder at this statement.

Russia didn't want NATO expanding towards them. Well that was a loss with two nations being added. Now they're actively trying to move TOWARDS more NATO nations. You can't make this shit up. This isn't my government reporting this to me. This is foreign press and other governments. Putin has literally said the objective and the reason why and all the history bull shit.

It's okay to be wrong. There's no one that said Ukraine would win on this site that I've ever read. Socal has just said Ukraine has gotten a better military through this and are basically holding the line for the most part at this point against the Russian supposed juggernaut. It's the fact Russia is losing in their main directive, KEEP NATO AWAY!!!! What is not being understood here? That's how Russia is losing. Because a real war with ALL NATO members hitting back at Russia they would be smashed.

They touch Poland I think it's the West that would just nuke Russia preemptively. https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

The problem with Russia is you can nuke 3-5 sites and they seize to function. Russia would have to hit soooooo many targets globally. Quantity doesn't matter. They have 3 nations within pissing distance that would fire on them in the hemisphere. Not sure of India's relations with Russia, but they seem better friends with the US. China and Pakistan won't do anything, it wouldn't be worth it.

Putin is actively moving towards NATO and getting neighbors to sign up. How is that winning? Ukraine has been a pawn for over two decades. The soldiers aren't running and surrendering so that's their choice. Eastern Euro's are stubborn as fuck. This will last another decade.

Also with Tucker and his take on Russia. They controlled where he went. They did it with friends of mine that went. This is why I like anecdotal evidence from sources I personally know. Russia is as controlling as North Korea with visitors. You don't just get to go where you want there. They force you to "tourist" spots. The country is a shit hole. Just because they have nukes doesn't mean it's first world for 90% of the land mass.

The only reason Russia exists is because of what's in the ground. Their people are miserable. They need outside tech to run the resources. They're incompetent. And to remind you I give no shits about Ukraine. If they draft and grabbed people off the street, they're still fighting and not running. They won't "win" but Russia is already the loser. This isn't about how many people you kill or land. NATO will continue to exist in our lifetimes. When Putin dies Russia will likely collapse in a power struggle for the resources. Quote this and prove me wrong when it happens...

WookieMan says

Lol to the max. Mcgregor IS government. He IS the problem.

Oh yes, he is, in part. He went to Iraq over that pack of lies without apparently any self reflection at all.

WookieMan says

You should hate this guy. He's also been provably wrong about Ukraine for literally 2 years.

I don't love him, and he's not been wrong for 2 years. He's been right for about 18 months. He's wrong about an impending war with Iran, the US is trying to start a war with Iran, but Iran won't bite. The US was trying to start a war with Russia, and FINALLY Russia bit, after 20 years of it.

The US will eventually abandon Ukraine and pretend they had nothing to do with it.

The US establishment has spent 2 years just outright lying about what is going on. Macgregor is hardly perfect, and I suspect he actually might be dishonest, but he doesn't lie to the bitter end. It was obvious before the war began that Ukraine wasn't going to win, just from the numbers.


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Corporate news is state tv, honestly. Our government just lies and lies and lies..

WookieMan says

He said Russia would take Ukraine in weeks. I still can't laugh harder at this statement.

I thought that might be the case as in Georgia, and I still believe Russia COULD easily do this. They could just bomb Kiev to rubble, but they don't bother. They have decided to fight this as a proxy war, exhaust US resources, and the war will go on for years. I was HOPING they would make quick work of this because if they didn't, it would drag out for years. I predict this war will go on for at minimum another 2 years. I predicted 5 years after about a month or so when Russia didn't just decapitate the leadership, which I was hoping they would.

WookieMan says

Russia didn't want NATO expanding towards them. Well that was a loss with two nations being added. Now they're actively trying to move TOWARDS more NATO nations. You can't make this shit up.

NATO may not exist at the end of this. There's literally no reason for it to exist now, and Russia isn't expanding and Russia didn't start this conflict. Sweden and Finland aren't stupid enough to fuck with Russia and all they've done is sign up to pay money into NATO.

WookieMan says

It's okay to be wrong. There's no one that said Ukraine would win on this site that I've ever read.

Are you kidding me? @"Mostly Reader" was in a RAGE with me because I said Ukraine couldn't win and it was best for them to surrender rather than get more people killed. Ukraine is a puppet government, they won't give up until there's nothing left to give up. Ukraine is going to be an example of "this is what happens to your country when you allow a traitor loyal to the United States run your foreign policy".

Russia will let A version of Ukraine survive, but Russia will take what they want of Eastern Ukraine and they will keep Crimea. Ukraine has had its population destroyed, they have no future. People who weren't willing to go to the meat grinder fled and likely won't come back. People that went to the meat grinder are dead.

WookieMan says

It's the fact Russia is losing in their main directive, KEEP NATO AWAY!!!! What is not being understood here? T

I do not know what Russia's objective is now - I doubt it's confined to their initial requirements of keeping Ukraine neutral and ending the civil war within Ukraine by having them abide by the Minsk Accords. I'll take a stab at what Russia's goal is though, I think they intend to change US foreign policy, which if that is, they are doing Americans a favor, although I admit this is being optimistic. US foreign policy doesn't serve US interests.

WookieMan says

Because a real war with ALL NATO members hitting back at Russia they would be smashed.

A "real war" would be nuclear annihilation and both Europe and Russia would be destroyed. Europe is too dependent on foreign goods and infrastructure, Russia would be certainly destroyed, but less than Europe would be. There will be no "real war". A real war would kill 100's of millions in Europe, Russia's population is only 150 million. The end result of such a war is China would be the unilateral power, not the United States. We would be the next USSR, and we already are on that way regardless.

WookieMan says

They touch Poland I think it's the West that would just nuke Russia preemptively. https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

No. Poland isn't stupid. Russia isn't expansionist, the United States is though. Poland has a US traitor in Donald Tusk who is adopting all the stupid whacky ideas of Europe. The Polish won't put up with that for long. It's not Russia that is attacking Poland, it's "progressive policies" and if you want to get into who is behind that, that's another conversation.

WookieMan says

The problem with Russia is you can nuke 3-5 sites and they seize to function. Russia would have to hit soooooo many targets globally. Quantity doesn't matter. They have 3 nations within pissing distance that would fire on them in the hemisphere. Not sure of India's relations with Russia, but they seem better friends with the US. China and Pakistan won't do anything, it wouldn't be worth it.

In a "real war" all you need to do is disrupt supply chains. That's easy to do today with nuclear weapons. They'll be a bunch of savages in 2 years if there's a nuclear war, there will be no government, they will all resort to cannibalism and tribal clans. Imagine the chaos of NYC, Washington DC, and Hollywood were just vaporized. Nobody even needs those to survive, however, it would throw our nation into absolute chaos. Those are our bullshit financial system, our bullshit warmonger government, and the propaganda that keeps it going.

WookieMan says

Putin is actively moving towards NATO and getting neighbors to sign up. How is that winning? Ukraine has been a pawn for over two decades. The soldiers aren't running and surrendering so that's their choice. Eastern Euro's are stubborn as fuck. This will last another decade.

Stubborn / stupid - whatever. I don't think the "whole thing" will last a decade, but I expect the Ukraine war to end before 2030. I'm betting sometime in 2026.

WookieMan says

Also with Tucker and his take on Russia. They controlled where he went. They did it with friends of mine that went. This is why I like anecdotal evidence from sources I personally know. Russia is as controlling as North Korea with visitors. You don't just get to go where you want there. They force you to "tourist" spots. The country is a shit hole. Just because they have nukes doesn't mean it's first world for 90% of the land mass.

I know Russians. Russia was like that when it was still the USSR, it's NOT the USSR anymore. That was more than 3 decades ago. I can't speak of Carlson's particular experience. It doesn't matter, I don't consider him a serious journalist.

WookieMan says

The only reason Russia exists is because of what's in the ground. Their people are miserable. They need outside tech to run the resources. They're incompetent. And to remind you I give no shits about Ukraine. If they draft and grabbed people off the street, they're still fighting and not running. They won't "win" but Russia is already the loser. This isn't about how many people you kill or land. NATO will continue to exist in our lifetimes. When Putin dies Russia will likely collapse in a power struggle for the resources. Quote this and prove me wrong when it happens...

No no no. Putin is a puppet himself. He has SOME input, but Medvedev is more hawkish than he is. Part of what Putin was trying to explain in what turned out to be a very superficial interview with Carlson is that Russia has been around for a long time, and they aren't going anywhere. The US has been around for 2 1/2 centuries... WE might go somewhere.

Russia's real problem is systemic corruption. IF Russia faces a real threat to their existence, that will end. Russia simply won't be able to afford to put up with it so they won't. The same is true for the US - when people say the US "is decadent", they mean it's growing more corrupt and criminal. Russia has been VERY SLOWLY cleaning up their corruption, and that's the real problem the US has with Russia. Instead of helping Russia in the 1990's, a bunch of carpetbaggers from the US moved in and setup shop, these were multinational..

Latest from Ret. Col. Douglas Macgregor. Two military experts discuss the latest on the Ukraine/Russian conflict:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Daniel Davis - Deep Dive 4/2/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jQxImGuKI

RayAmerica says

Latest from Ret. Col. Douglas Macgregor. Two military experts discuss the latest on the Ukraine/Russian conflict:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Daniel Davis - Deep Dive 4/2/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jQxImGuKI

They're not experts though. They're doing podcasts. Mcgregor has been absolutely wrong about Ukraine for 3 years now. He also acts like this started 3 years ago. Ukraine in the Eastern portion has been at war since Russia took Crimea, nearing a decade. They still haven't "won" this conflict. It just became official 3 years ago. Russia have been at war for quite some time, just not declared. Still not technically. "Special military operations."

WookieMan says

Ukraine in the Eastern portion has been at war since Russia took Crimea, nearing a decade.

Yes, with Western Ukraine, not with Russia. Crimea was taken in by Russia almost immediately after the US coup of Ukraine, and that's what caused the civil war of Ukraine between Eastern and Western Ukraine.

The United States funded their puppet leadership, and Russia funded their puppet leadership in the East of Ukraine. None of it would have happened if the US didn't overthrow Ukraine, and now, there's 100's of thousands of dead, and Western Ukraine is owned by Blackrock.

People are saying this war will drag on for a decade of something. I'd say for another few years, 2 I'd say is minimum, but not more than 5 but we'll see. I can't say I fully understand the geopolitics of this situation. I believe the goal of the US was to cut off Russian energy exports to Europe, that's accomplished, and also to hand over as much land and resources to capital investment banks like Vanguard and Blackrock, and that's accomplished. I don't know what reason the US has to continue this war. Russia only continues it to exhaust US resources.

IMO, a very reasonable assessment of the Ukraine/Russia and Israel/Iran conflicts:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Daniel Davis/Deep Dive 4/17/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-uLhQ5D-fY

RayAmerica says

IMO, a very reasonable assessment of the Ukraine/Russia and Israel/Iran conflicts:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Daniel Davis/Deep Dive 4/17/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-uLhQ5D-fY

People have to stop quoting and posting anything this guy says. https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-how-russia-uses-retired-us-colonel-s-ukraine-misinformation-for-domestic-propaganda-/6972765.html

Is Ukraine going to "win" in the end, no. But this guy has been so wrong every step of the way I'm not sure why anyone takes him seriously anymore. He's literally been wrong on all of his predictions. Eventually a broken clock is on time and he'll eventually get lucky and say "see I told you so." That's what Macgregor is, a broken clock pundit looking for post retirement money. That podcast literally has 5k subs. He's literally going to bottom of the barrel channels to get his BS content out.

Get him on a legit channel that questions him. Doesn't pander to his FORMER status. He'll get his ass handed to him.