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2023 Oct 11, 12:13pm   33,663 views  717 comments

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I've seen the Zeitgeist stuff and read the people who blame everything on Jews(especially in relation to banking). I don't find it to hold true, but when I see the obvious racism and bigotry on this site, especially in the last few days when it comes to Arabs, I have to re-think how much of a hold Zionist propaganda has on this country. I first became aware of it after 9/11, even before I knew it was a false flag event it bothered me the way people treat Middle Easterner's in this country. I've worked with Iranian's, Iraqi's, Pakistani's, and I've always found them to be some of the most polite, well mannered people. A lot of you here could stand some lessons from them.

From the same keyboards that denounced Ukraine and the violence in South Africa, I now read despicable language used against Arabs. No one wants to touch the stuff I bring up about Israeli government and kids, but you all want to call for actions that will murder more children.

Try re-writing some of your sentences, but insert Jew instead of Muslim, or white. Then read them again. I bet I could translate much of the South Africa talk with that same word change, and get most of you clamoring for more bloodshed to agree with it.

Look at the children in these photos, read the stories of how they died. Some are Israeli, do you find that odd? I don't, the military and governments involved in this are sociopaths, and pedophiles, and don't give a shit about your ethnicity, nationality, loyalty, or age.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-gaza-names-faces-children-killed-bombardment
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-05-21/more-than-70-children-have-been-killed-in-the-israel-palestine-conflict-these-are-their-names-and-faces

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446   richwicks   2024 Mar 19, 2:38am  

AmericanKulak says

When Dawson and Hinkle report BS from Gaza, some will believe it unconditionally. Never mind days later it'll be shown to be from the Syrian Civil War or elsewhere, if not entirely faked.


Show any time that Dawson has reported false information.
447   Tenpoundbass   2024 Mar 19, 6:38am  

Who is prejudice against Arabs?

I haven't seen anyone bemoan Arabs ever on this site. That's like saying all Spanish speaking people are communists because Venezuela and Cuba are communist countries.

NuttBoxer says






If some Jew put on a KKK robe and went to the deep south to larp as a real KKK dude. They would need the Governor of Virginia's State Police escort to hold people back from disrobing them and exposing them for who they are. Just like happened at the Charlottesville BLM, Antifa Fedserection that was blamed on Trump and his supporters. The very fine people were the Feds and we all knew it.

My point is, we have no problem policing our own. We expose and reject religious leaders who are compromised and we reject LARPers trying to put us in an unflattering light. Muslims, and Jews never ever push back on the nonsense. They allow it to flourish. They are just as guilty as those hatting on them. If they refuse to push back ,then there is no distinctions between the good ones and the bad ones. Their cowardice is their own doing.
448   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 22, 7:39am  

What I find most galling about the shift society has gone through in recent years is people's willingness to harm children. The obvious example is the Epstein scandal that shed light on a decades long issue within the United States government, pedophilia. But there are others we all agree on here on patnet.

Public education's push to groom children
Sexually deviant adults using public libraries, parades, etc to groom children
Forcing children to wear masks and coercing parents to give them experimental shots

but the latest example is simply outright murder. The holocaust in Gaza that a few of you are supporting here. Now personally, if I found out a cause I supported harmed children, I would immediately change my view. There's no justification that cause could ever, ever present to me that would change my mind.

Harming children is always wrong, and NEVER justified. By attempting to justify/dismiss child murder you have put yourselves in the same company as pedophiles, sexually deviant groomers, and power tripping, freedom hating narcissists.
449   socal2   2024 Mar 22, 11:55am  

NuttBoxer says

Harming children is always wrong, and NEVER justified. By attempting to justify/dismiss child murder you have put yourselves in the same company as pedophiles, sexually deviant groomers, and power tripping, freedom hating narcissists.


So you must really HATE it that Hamas and Muslim extremists always hide behind children and civilians because they are total cowardly fuckwits.

Father of the year here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhwLUw5stI&t=1s
450   richwicks   2024 Mar 22, 12:55pm  

socal2 says


So you must really HATE it that Hamas and Muslim extremists always hide behind children and civilians because they are total cowardly fuckwits.


Yeah, they hide them in the apartment complexes and homes they live in that Israel blows up.

I'm so tired of hearing bullshit propaganda. I can show you a Palestinian being used as a human shield:



By Israelis. Common thing to do.

You know how Democrats accuse Republicans of the crimes THEY do all the fucking time ad nauseam? Israel has been doing this for 40 years, probably longer. The only difference is you believe the Israeli government when they do this, because you put in NO EFFORT in thinking at all and you just either mindlessly repeat it spreading bullshit Israeli propaganda, OR you know it's propaganda, and you're purposely lying because you're a dirtbag.
451   socal2   2024 Mar 22, 1:01pm  

Richwicks found a picture from 20 years ago of some Israelis trying to stop Palis from throwing rocks at them!

Does that somehow disprove the fact that Hamas (and Islamist retards in general) hide behind the skirts of their women and children all the time?

The IDF just captured another 600+ Islamists who tried to set up shop again in the Al-Shifa hospital this week.

Back in October/November all the Hamas apologists were trying to claim it was absurd that Hamas was using hospitals as military centers.
452   richwicks   2024 Mar 22, 1:11pm  

socal2 says


Richwicks found a picture from 20 years ago of some Israelis trying to stop Palis from throwing rocks at them!


It's easy to find pictures. I got the picture from 20 years ago, because this is a LONG standing practice. Israel always lies about what they do. The reason a picture of that exists is that in 2004, cell phone cameras became available. Nobody was taking Polaroids of this shit in 1985, but it happened. Shit is captured on camera constantly now. That's why we have censorship.

socal2 says


Does that somehow disprove the fact that Hamas (and Islamist retards in general) hide behind the skirts of their women and children all the time?


You haven't shown any evidence. Go ahead and do that.

My beliefs, as far as I'm aware, are based on established facts, not bullshit claims by fucking liar politicians. Israel doesn't have any credibility with me, because I know they lie and lie a fuckton. I don't listen to them. Remember the "yellow cake uranium" that Saddam Hussein was SUPPOSEDLY buying from Niger? That came from Israeli intelligence, they just lied about it. They always lie. They are lying now.

I drives me crazy people are so fucking oblivious that they can't see it's a lie. You make NO EFFORT not to be propagandized, NONE so you're little more than cattle, and that's your choice. "Your" decisions, aren't your decisions at all, they are somebody else's. You're a willing puppet.

socal2 says


The IDF just captured another 600+ Islamists who tried to set up shop again in the Al-Shifa hospital this week.


Israel calls everybody a terrorist they kill or capture, Obama did the same bullshit. Whenever he blew up a wedding party, or a funeral procession the next week, he would just claim they were all terrorists. That's standard operating procedure when your government is run by sociopathic criminals.

socal2 says


Back in October/November all the Hamas apologists were trying to claim it was absurd that Hamas was using hospitals as military centers.


Yeah, but Israel said...

Show any fucking evidence it's true. They found two toilets in an underground area there. Every hospital and university has been bombed. The north is a wasteland now, and they're eventually going to attack the south.

You know that landing that the US is building supposedly to supply aid, it's not going to be used for that. It's going to be used to pick up the survivors of Gaza and ship them off to who the fuck knows.

I've been watching this fucking goddamned disaster perpetrated by a bunch of racist lunatics, and ignorant fools for over 1/2 my life. I've written here, years ago, that Israel has ALWAYS intended to retake Gaza and to overtake the entire West Bank. They will. You get called anti-Semite for telling the truth. I'm not a pussy like most people are. WORDS will change your "opinion". You're either ignorant, a coward, or you're an active colluder. One of those 3.
453   socal2   2024 Mar 22, 1:50pm  

richwicks says

You haven't shown any evidence. Go ahead and do that.


FFS - there is video and geolocated confirmed pictures of hundreds of miles of tunnels and command centers under schools, mosques, hospitals and UNRWA facilities.

Keep making excuses for the goat-fuckers.
454   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 22, 3:27pm  

I'm almost positive I've linked to that story about IDF using human shields, but has anyone bothered to click on it, unlikely, as those who support the Israeli government(NOT the Jews, big difference), do it for emotional, not rational reasons. And when has anyone ever needed evidence to feel a certain way.

No one has a right to tell you how to feel, but don't mistake emotion for rational thought...
455   RWSGFY   2024 Mar 22, 3:50pm  

Sooo, why doesn't Hamas release the hostages?

Why did Chyna and the USSR block the UNSC resolution calling for a ceasefire AND release of the hostages?

Why don't starving "palestinians" protest against their rulers refusing to free the hostages and thus achieve a desired ceasefire and food deliveries? We know they can protest with the best of them - multiple "intifadas" offer a definitive proof of such ability.

Questions, questions...
456   richwicks   2024 Mar 22, 3:58pm  

socal2 says


FFS - there is video and geolocated confirmed pictures of hundreds of miles of tunnels


I'm not looking shit up. You post it, or shut the fuck up.

This fucking nation has been lying for my entire adult life, probably my entire life. There were no 40 beheaded babies even though Joe Biden claimed he saw proof of it, just like you are saying you have proof "if I'd just look it up", and that a woman's skull was found and matched to a kidnap victim, like they just stumbled across a portion of a skull, took it to a forensics lab, and then matched, like that fucking happened.

I'm tired of people not having the ability to think, and I'm not the thinking for you anymore. You're not going to do it even if I hold your hand and explain in detail. It's too tiresome for you "it's a screen" "tl;dr". Ignorance is a choice today, I'm no longer trying to fight against that just expose you're ignorant.
457   richwicks   2024 Mar 22, 4:00pm  

NuttBoxer says

I'm almost positive I've linked to that story about IDF using human shields, but has anyone bothered to click on it, unlikely, as those who support the Israeli government(NOT the Jews, big difference), do it for emotional, not rational reasons. And when has anyone ever needed evidence to feel a certain way.


It's pretty upsetting to realize you've been duped for decades to support a bloodthirsty government. They can't deal with the fact that we have a new media that lies blatantly in order to protect criminals that have been killing women and children for decades and continue to do it. They can't deal with the fact that our government really is THAT evil.

That's why.
458   richwicks   2024 Mar 22, 4:03pm  

RWSGFY says


Sooo, why doesn't Hamas release the hostages?


The HAVE released hostages - Ruti Munder said she was treated well, and she even shook hands with her captors when she was released. Of course, this meant nothing to Israel, and the US "mistranslated" (i.e. lied) about what she said. After that, Israel put the kibosh on any more unvetted interviews of released hostages - they now have to go through the filter to frame Hamas as just a bunch of mindless animals.

Hamas wants either a ceasefire, or Palestinians that have been put into Israeli custody that have been convicted of no crime. Israel has been taking hostages from Gaza and the West Bank for years.
459   Misc   2024 Mar 22, 5:54pm  

richwicks says

I'm not looking shit up. You post it, or shut the fuck up.


Problem is ... if he posts it ... you simply say you don't believe it, that it is lies.

After doing this many, many times, nobody cares to post any links.

Nothing will break you out if your reality.
460   richwicks   2024 Mar 22, 5:57pm  

Misc says


Problem is ... if he posts it ... you simply say you don't believe it, that it is lies.


He never posts it.

I'm the asshole that fucking insists on links to confirm information, and people that refuse to do this, should be ignored.

Our bullshit "news" media won't post sources. To me, if you can't post a fucking source, a link, a 30 year old technology, that means you're full of shit, or more likely, you don't know why you "think" what you claim to think. This is propaganda fucked into your head without you realizing it. I'm not immune, but I'm aware of it, I do have a higher resistance than most people.

Misc says


After doing this many, many times, nobody cares to post any links.


Show an example of where I did this. Post a link.

Misc says


Nothing will break you out if your reality.


On the contrary I've been broken out of my delusions multiple times, and now it's a duty for me to do as well - which is why I post links. I actually want to know when I'm wrong. Most people, to me, bizarrely do not want to know. I have spent considerable time eliminating my cognitive dissonance. Few of you have. When I realize I have a contradiction in my thinking, I start researching it, and I eliminate one of my beliefs and go forward from that. I've been doing this for about 25 years. Quite often I realize I was wrong on both viewpoints, we're often given false dichotomies. It is laborious, but I want to know.

Which is why I'm not an Israeli supporter, why I don't think "climate change" is about to kill us all, why I don't think CO2 is a poison destroying the planet, why I don't think EVs are beneficial to the environment, why I believe green energy is a scam, why I think television is merely propaganda, why I don't recognize what is called "news" is information, why I don't trust my government, why I realize the intelligence agencies are staffed with traitors, etc. Many of my views have been over-turned over time, with people showing I was incorrect and I had the opposite stance on ALL OF THOSE as an adult. "The FIB wouldn't lie!!!", that's all they fucking do. Same with the CIA. I thought if it wasn't true SOMEBODY would blow the whistle, nope, a small number of people do, and they will vigorously defend their position, as I will. Most of what you hear or read, is bullshit, but there are people who are honest, to a fault, it's damaging.

Lies are said to be a tool of the devil, is this is true, our world is ruled by that, by evil.
461   Misc   2024 Mar 22, 6:17pm  

You failed to post a link.

Also, simply read what you wrote. You flat out stated that you would not believe anything that contradicts your worldview.

This make discussions impossible.
462   richwicks   2024 Mar 22, 6:20pm  

Misc says


You failed to post a link.


Try to do a search on http://images.google.com/ and see a surprise. Save the image, and then upload it to do a search on it.

Misc says


Also, simply read what you wrote. You flat out stated that you would not believe


Quote me.

Misc says


This make discussions impossible.


I attempt to make liars and propagandists impossible to continue being liars and propagandists.
463   Misc   2024 Mar 22, 7:18pm  

Are you now saying that you will look at the videos that he previously posted (you said you would not) ???

Go back and look at them. You won't because it destroys your narrative. You will simply say you don't believe them, that they are lies.
464   richwicks   2024 Mar 22, 8:25pm  

Misc says


Are you now saying that you will look at the videos that he previously posted (you said you would not) ???


If you post a specific video or quote and not a general website - like this:


original link

Don't make a fucking post making me search for a needle in a haystack. YOU find what you think is relevant, post it, and post the source. In that video, a dumb Zionist thug is comparing what they are doing to Gaza as what the English did to Dresden - do you think think what was Dresden was justifiable? It had no military significance at all, it was attacked just to attack the country in general by murdering civilians. It was an attempt to get the Germans to turn against their rulers out of fear. That's exactly what Israel is doing now. Gaza has been under attack since it become the open air prison it is today, they don't fear death anymore.

Misc says


Go back and look at them. You won't because it destroys your narrative.


I'm not going through a bunch of garbage to find what you think justifies your position. You do it.

We're not on fucking YouTube where you can't post specific links and this is almost an entire uncensored platform. Find what you think supports your position and post that, or don't bother me.
465   Misc   2024 Mar 22, 8:49pm  

Why, you won't look at it (you have done this numerous times), or say that it is "lies" and not to be believed (a standard MO).

If I do re-post what socal2 offered, will you watch it and/or believe it ????

The answer based on numerous posts is no to each.
466   richwicks   2024 Mar 22, 8:56pm  

Misc says

Why, you won't look at it


I have. I went through a few which I knew were indeterminate on whether they were even real. There are apparently bodies, there's no way to know who killed them, and I know the IDF has the Hannibal directive. Israel's government deliberately killed their own citizens and soldiers and they are quite open about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive

I am not uneducated about this conflict, and I'm well aware of the Mossad's motto - though deception we will make war. That ends their credibility.

It was a concert, EVERYBODY has cellphones, and I'm noticing a very real lack of the event itself. I'd expect security would have some cameras, and they probably did, and those videos, are not recovered. Why?
467   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 25, 10:40am  

RWSGFY says

Why don't starving "palestinians" protest against their rulers refusing to free the hostages and thus achieve a desired ceasefire and food deliveries?


I don't think I'm exaggerating when say that the above sentence justifies killing and starving innocent people because a minority group may be holding hostages. I say "may" because Israel's indiscriminate bombing campaign likely already killed them.

I'm pretty sure some white people where you live supported BLM a few years back. By your logic I should arrest you until you turn over the BLM supporters...
468   richwicks   2024 Mar 25, 10:49am  

RWSGFY says

Why did Chyna and the USSR block the UNSC resolution calling for a ceasefire AND release of the hostages?


Did they?

What's the UN resolution?

I'm pretty certain the entire planet except for the United States, and Israel is in favor of a ceasefire and I know you can't trust the media to tell you if a stove is hot or not.
469   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 27, 7:22am  

So all those rape stories were true after all..
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4477340-un-experts-reports-executions-sexual-assault-israeli-soldiers/
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against
https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian
https://archive.is/rekay

Ohh, you meant Hamas rape of Israeli's, didn't happen...

The chair of Israel's investigative committee into rape on 10/7, @CochavElkayam, presents an old image of dead female Kurdish fighters as proof rape was committed at the music fest. Below I will post again the archived version of this exact 2022 image. https://t.co/lwOxdH3fHw pic.twitter.com/jHvDZz9Upt

— The Last American Vagabond (@TLAVagabond) December 5, 2023


UN representative Pramila Patten, who prepared the report on alleged sexual violence on October 7, admits that the report is not an investigation and that it contains unfounded and outright false testimonies. I just discussed this last night. Link below. pic.twitter.com/v6QRQDfkUY

— The Last American Vagabond (@TLAVagabond) March 7, 2024
470   socal2   2024 Mar 27, 8:19am  

Nuttboxer falling for Islamist prop.

Even Al Jazeera has retracted.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/al-jazeera-report-alleging-idf-rapes-in-shifa-hospital-retracted/
471   richwicks   2024 Mar 27, 10:02am  

socal2 says

Nuttboxer falling for Islamist prop.

Yeah, Islam has such a a stranglehold in our media and government.

Oh wait they don't, but somebody does.

But they are so honest and trustworthy from weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to safe and effective. Oh, what a surprise, they are repeating the same nonsense you are. You're not brainwashed..
472   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 28, 6:42am  

Not just US media, also the UN, humanitarian organizations, AND Israel(see Israeli government source above).

When the country you claim to support disagrees with you and you ignore it, you are definitely following "the science"..
473   NuttBoxer   2024 Mar 28, 7:00am  

Israeli government calling for censorship, because the side that's right needs to censor the sides that are wrong:

Ambassador @DavidSaranga:

The social networks have become a strategic threat to Israel.

Let me be precise: The combination of the industry of lies and social media networks, has long since become a strategic threat to western democracies.

Here's an example of the poison we… https://t.co/xMKpxLTjWO

— Israel Foreign Ministry (@IsraelMFA) March 24, 2024


'We have a major Tiktok problem.'

Leaked audio of ADL chief executive Jonathan Greenblatt freaking out because global youth aren't buying Israel's propaganda anymore. #Gaza pic.twitter.com/tzU02bSXAm

— Sharmine Narwani (@snarwani) November 16, 2023


Israel's government targeting civilians in Rafah, where they told everyone to go so they could be "safe":

BREAKING: Israel is dropping bombs on civilian homes in Rafah right now.

The massacres of entire Palestinian families are continuing and the “international community” does ZERO to hold Israel accountable.pic.twitter.com/iyiXY8K3NA

— sarah (@sahouraxo) March 26, 2024


BREAKING: Rafah is under attack AGAIN.

Israeli Airstrikes have killed 15 civilians, including four children. pic.twitter.com/Bt0yJOFxnX

— Khalissee (@Kahlissee) March 26, 2024


https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/

And if you still believe the rape stories, you're probably right, as IDF and Israeli newspapers confirm IDF soldiers have a moral obligation to rape Palestinians:

The IDF’s chief rabbi gave his religious blessings to rape non-Jewish women during war.

Occupying Israeli soldiers celebrated Purim by raping Palestinian women in Al-Shifa hospital.

Evil, depraved, heinous, genocidal war criminals. https://t.co/IT2li4fh5u

— Dilly Hussain (@DillyHussain88) March 25, 2024


WARNING: VILE CONTENT
The Zionists’ favorite talking point is rape but not the many cases within IDF ranks. It’s an Israeli national obsession with some rabbis endorsing rape in war. Listen to how the IDF soldier speaks below. pic.twitter.com/dc45NxU3w6

— Polly Tickal (@BubblesToBurst) March 26, 2024
474   WookieMan   2024 Mar 28, 7:36am  

NuttBoxer says

Not just US media, also the UN, humanitarian organizations, AND Israel(see Israeli government source above).

When the country you claim to support disagrees with you and you ignore it, you are definitely following "the science"..

Nutt you're conflating two things. That any news, media, country or anything you see on the internet is telling the truth. Both sides lie in any issue. Media likes clicks and views, so they lie. Social media people want followers. I don't care about links and videos in today's tech age. ANYTHING can be "fact" supposedly.... I have to see it directly or know someone I can call to believe anything at this point. Videos and links simply don't count anymore with AI and even basic photoshop.

And next there is the fact this region of the planet has been at war forever. I'd guess 1B kids have died in the Eastern hemisphere in 500 years by war. It will never change. You cannot change culture, ethnicity and religion. What do you think is going to change with a cease fire? Nothing. Let them duke it out is my stance.

I don't care for either side. I'll only point out that Isreal has to have a rocket defense system that they used frequently before this and other conflicts with Muslims. I actually TALKED to a friend that lived there for a decade. Palistians fire "dumb" rockets and some smart missiles at random civilians including kids. Egypt doesn't want them. Are they a part of the genocide?

I don't like kids dying, but this hasn't and won't change anytime in our lifetimes. I just don't care at this point because when religion is involved, nothing changes. You need to blame religion as usual with wars and conflict. Maybe if they stopped believing in fiction novels it would change... both sides... it won't.
475   Reality   2024 Mar 28, 8:26am  

WookieMan says


And next there is the fact this region of the planet has been at war forever. I'd guess 1B kids have died in the Eastern hemisphere in 500 years by war. It will never change. You cannot change culture, ethnicity and religion. What do you think is going to change with a cease fire? Nothing. Let them duke it out is my stance.


The "let them duke it out" / "let them slaughter" stance is unrealistic:

1. Israelis would be wiped out if we stop all munition/ammunition shipment and stop foreign aid to both Israel and neighboring countries keeping them away from joining the fight. It doesn't matter how advanced Israel's anti-missile defense systems are when they don't produce enough anti-missile missiles on their own; nor can they afford to exchange expensive precision anti-missiles missiles against cheap dumb flying objects.

2. When the fighting intensifies/escalates there, and the US has to send more billions of aid to Israel to keep Israelis alive, some of the money will be diverted to politicians and shift the political landscape here due to campaign contributions. It already has in the past 70+ years.

3. Almost all of the most massive/deadly wars in the eastern hemisphere in the past 500 years were due to the bankster human-farming process, mass killing bank account holders in one country after another. What they teach in high school economics class about international trade optimizing unevenly distributed mineral resources and removing "dead loss" neglects to mention the impact of global money flow: when factory-owners, dictators and middle-class in third-world human farms send their money to western money center banks for what they think is safe-keeping, the money flow artificially depresses their local currencies and artificially lowers the price of their exports. That's why we have the current phenomenon of German and Japanese cars being sold in the US at prices lower than their prices back in Germany and Japan, Chinese-made electronics being sold in the US at prices lower than their prices in China, Brazil-made clothing/shoes being sold in the US at prices lower than in Brazil. These are large countries; the "dumping"-like negative implied transportation cost price differential is even greater for goods made in smaller countries. How can American workers and factories compete in this kind of environment? The result is mass unemployment and shifting of jobs from producing real goods to jobs that are essentially financial scams and political mutual looting. In essence, importing foreign slavery and semi-slavery systems to the US through the globalist hot-money flow / low-to-zero tariff process.
476   WookieMan   2024 Mar 28, 10:17am  

Reality says

1. Israelis would be wiped out if we stop all munition/ammunition shipment and stop foreign aid to both Israel and neighboring countries keeping them away from joining the fight. It doesn't matter how advanced Israel's anti-missile defense systems are when they don't produce enough anti-missile missiles on their own; nor can they afford to exchange expensive precision anti-missiles missiles against cheap dumb flying objects.

That's my problem??? My kids ain't going to a foreign war over religion and I don't want my $40k of tax dollars going towards it. Sorry. We got involved in WWII in a big way and now we're fucking stuck over there for no reason. At some point just let them kill each other. We fixed a problem and now it's theirs.
Reality says

2. When the fighting intensifies/escalates there, and the US has to send more billions of aid to Israel to keep Israelis alive, some of the money will be diverted to politicians and shift the political landscape here due to campaign contributions. It already has in the past 70+ years.

I don't care. If I don't like a situation I leave it. Any American Jew or Muslim that has an opinion on this is hysterical as they don't live there. It's all religion. This won't stop regardless of US involvement. EVER. We've sent aid to both parties. Anything change? Nope...

I also simply don't care what goes on with the other side of the globe. Our side is mostly stabilized with a few hiccups. The Eastern hemisphere is trash and always will be. We have multiple hot wars on that side of the planet. South and Central America have their issues, but it's mostly calm with two basic languages and one religion for 90% of it. Why does anyone care what goes on over there? You have too many "cultures" and languages and shit gets lost in translation. Territory disputes. Different religions and sects. It will go on forever.
477   AmericanKulak   2024 Mar 28, 10:55am  

WookieMan says


Nutt you're conflating two things. That any news, media, country or anything you see on the internet is telling the truth. Both sides lie in any issue. Media likes clicks and views, so they lie. Social media people want followers.

You lie. RT, Electronic Intifada, Middle East Eye, PressTV, Dawson, Hinkle, and Fuentes are truth bearers. All power to Muh Bashar the Glorious Lion!
478   AmericanKulak   2024 Mar 28, 10:56am  

NuttBoxer says


Israeli government calling for censorship

You mean "Pro-Pali accounts whinging"

Or just plain nuts:
The IDF’s chief rabbi gave his religious blessings to rape non-Jewish women during war.

Occupying Israeli soldiers celebrated Purim by raping Palestinian women in Al-Shifa hospital.

Evil, depraved, heinous, genocidal war criminals. https://t.co/IT2li4fh5u

— Dilly Hussain (@DillyHussain88) March 25, 2024

Note the date and it's one guy from about a decade ago: 2016

I wonder if they still push the Oded article from 1982.
479   AmericanKulak   2024 Mar 28, 11:00am  

NuttBoxer says

The chair of Israel's investigative committee into rape on 10/7, CochavElkayam, presents an old image of dead female Kurdish fighters as proof rape was committed at the music fest. Below I will post again the archived version of this exact 2022 image. https://t.co/lwOxdH3fHw pic.twitter.com/jHvDZz9Upt

— The Last American Vagabond (TLAVagabond) December 5, 2023

Literally all your sources are militant pro Pali/anti Israel like Max Blumenthal and Last American Syrio-Iranian Propaganda Repeater
480   AmericanKulak   2024 Mar 28, 11:01am  

Misc says


Problem is ... if he posts it ... you simply say you don't believe it, that it is lies.

After doing this many, many times, nobody cares to post any links.

Nothing will break you out if your reality.

My favorite is when "I have no dog in this fight" but his posts and enthusiasm for the anti-Israel side belie that.

When you correct him with links, he half-acknowledges it with an "I don't care" when he clearly does, then a short time later he's back making the original assertion you already proved factual information to refute.

An example is the "Mossad killed JFK" which was based on one interview in Arabic with a PFLP leader in Arabic in 2010, who when pressed for any details behind such a wild claim, told the interviewer he would "Discuss it with any interested parties". The claim was only published in English by a Neonazi Newsletter writer with Palestinian Terrorist connections a few years later in a book, but was recently reported on Dawson's media which is where it was probably taken from.

That's why I blocked him.
481   richwicks   2024 Mar 28, 11:06am  

WookieMan says

Nutt you're conflating two things. That any news, media, country or anything you see on the internet is telling the truth. Both sides lie in any issue.


No, he's not confused at all.

OF COURSE both sides lie on every issue, but when one side is wrong, you can determine who is wrong. You can't criticize Israel, and haven't been able to ever. You couldn't criticize it in 1980 and there's LOTS to criticize. If the US acted like Israel, people would be screaming that the United States is systemically racist, and they would be right.

Israel depended on soft censorship for a LONG TIME, "muh holocaust!" was their go to. Anti-semite has been so over-used it's meaningless. Now the fucking little shit nation is directly blocking free speech in MY country, FUCK THEM.

WookieMan says

I don't care about links and videos in today's tech age. ANYTHING can be "fact" supposedly.... I have to see it directly or know someone I can call to believe anything at this point. Videos and links simply don't count anymore with AI and even basic photoshop.


You don't know how to use the fucking internet fucking yet. Jesus Christ.

Look, everything that is done is recorded, you have translation tools, you have NOBODIES on the ground that have no agenda other than "look at this", it's been around for fucking 30 years, and you still can't use it.

Your government, ALWAYS, lies. Whatever is in the "news" media is pushed because it's a lie, it's propaganda. They don't push "the world is sphere", because everybody knows it's a sphere. They push falsehoods. They don't bother to push information, because who cares about real information? They don't. They push from "men and woman are exactly the same" to "so-and-so is the NEXT HITLER", and it's always a lie.

How can you not notice the fucking pattern YET?

Lies are easy to spot, they are contradictory. Lies are injected into truth as well, to discredit the truth. How can you not realize it at this point? For example, we saw a ton of picture of "green lasers" in Maui, supposedly - just photographs. How easy is that to make? Well, who gives a shit how it was done? We know the water was turned off, we know people were blocked from escaping, we know there was a wall put up, and we know there are 2000+ people missing. Who gives a fuck how the fires started? We know, with CERTAINTY the government made it as bad as possible.

You don't have to know the entire story, you just have to know your government "helped" some calamity happened or protected the criminals. That's it.
482   richwicks   2024 Mar 28, 11:12am  

Reality says

1. Israelis would be wiped out if we stop all munition/ammunition shipment and stop foreign aid to both Israel and neighboring countries keeping them away from joining the fight.


Yeah, problem solved. Why is Israel hated so much? Jews have been living in that regions for CENTURIES, why is ISRAEL hated so much?

Because they're assholes, and they are egregious assholes, and because they just keep getting worse, year, after year, after year, after year, eventually, they will be overwhelmed. When the US collapses. Israel is going to be slaughtered and it's not like they haven't been egging on the entire Middle East for decades. They are the main source of instability there.
483   richwicks   2024 Mar 28, 11:18am  

AmericanKulak says


Literally all your sources are militant pro Pali/anti Israel like Max Blumenthal and Last American Syrio-Iranian Propaganda Repeater


Are his sources wrong? He claimed:

NuttBoxer says


The chair of Israel's investigative committee into rape on 10/7, CochavElkayam, presents an old image of dead female Kurdish fighters as proof rape was committed at the music fest. Below I will post again the archived version of this exact 2022 image. https://t.co/lwOxdH3fHw pic.twitter.com/jHvDZz9Upt

— The Last American Vagabond (TLAVagabond) December 5, 2023


Is that false or not?

Who gives a shit about the source? Who cares?

Did the source lie or not?

It's like people saying "oh, the FSB is the one that recorded that Victoria Nuland setup the Ukraine puppet government in 2014" - who gives a shit that it was the FSB? I don't care if it's the FSB, the CIA, the Mossad, or Satan himself - the recording is genuine and confirmed to be genuine. It doesn't matter what the source is. What matters if it's true or not.

Sources are a pre-filter. The Last American Vagabond is a fucking moron when it comes to "smart dust" for example. He doesn't know what he's talking about, I've written to him trying to explain to him the impossibility and what is really going on with some twat saying "we have this technology now", no we don't. He's obsessed with "virus sized transistors", well, they are much smaller than that. We've had those since the 1980s, but a transistor is just a gate. You need several 100 thousand of them to do anything useful. He doesn't understand this.

I don't bother with sources like Rachel Maddow or Sean Hannity because they don't ever produce information. 99.9% of the time, they are full of shit, or they are distorting information. When I do pay any attention to them, it's for the purpose of showing whoever is using that as a source, that what they said, they are lying about. Don't have to do that much today. The only people that still watch television are very old people unable to use the Internet.
484   Reality   2024 Mar 28, 11:20am  

WookieMan, I can easily sympathize with your expressed frustration on the subject. I have been saying for a long time now, many of those critical of Zionist harsh policies on the biological descendants of biblical Jews who never left the land are the ones who will be equally sympathetic of Israeli/Jewish plight when the shoe is on the other foot when the US as a declining empire can no longer sustain the state of Israel, whereas some of the most ardent voices in support of harsh Zionist actions against "Palestinians" may well turn out to be bankster agents who want Jewish bank account holders living in that region dead so the victims can not withdraw money from the banks.

We living in the western hemisphere do have two vested interests in the eastern hemisphere:

1. Because the landmass and human population in the eastern hemisphere far out-number the western hemisphere, we can not allow eastern hemisphere to consolidate into one political entity. It's similar to Britain playing the balance of power to European continent between 1100-1950 or so, lest it becomes unified like historical China or historical Japan (under Bakufu regime), or to a somewhat lesser degree the US after suppressing states' rights to secede thereby turning into a unified empire instead of a coalition of willing states. Geographically vast unified political entities tend to become more and more tyrannical as well as expansionistic (because its internal politics over-ride internal market, so have to loot not only its citizens/subjects but also loot externally).

2. Can't allow human-farming operations to perfect their art / practices in the eastern hemisphere to apply the same expertise and team-work resources to farm humans in the western hemisphere. The difference between Judaism vs. Islam is not much more than that existed between Protestants vs. Catholics. Historically both England and France used persecutions of Catholics and Huguenots as methods of farming human beings and harvesting human cattle by mass murdering them through made-up religious conflicts; in central Europe, that turn into the 30-Years War slaughtering millions of civilians, the most devastating war in Europe before WWI/WWII. The invention of Nietzschean "God is dead" then Communism and Nazism were extensions/reproductions of that human-cattle farming operation.
485   AmericanKulak   2024 Mar 28, 11:24am  

Oh, and don't forgot conflating the run up to the Iraq Invasion, or falsely asserting Israel is the cause of all the problems in the MENA, when the entire conflict since 1947 including ALL the Wars and Not-Wars and Terrorism is only the 9th deadliest conflict in the Middle East going on 80 years now.

Again, the 9th deadliest since 1947 including every war, border raid, insurgency, terrorism, and bombing/shelling responses.

The deadliest two wars in the Middle East was the Shi'a-Sunni fight between Iran and Iraq in the 80s which featured Chemical Weapons, and the Syrian Civil War between the hereditary dictatorship of the House of Assad the Mighty Lion and both ISIS and other groups. In fact, the three worst, deadliest wars in the Middle East featured Arab National Socialists, aka Ba'athist, on one side. The third being the Lebanese Civil War, which was Muslim Supremacy against Christians with Israel supporting the latter and the Ba'athists backing Hezbollah

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