patrick.net

Between the ever yawning rift and the Congressional gang stalkers, it's going to be interesting to see how this one pans out. It looks like exposure, and there is not enough lipstick for the pig. Congress look like the bunch of bait & switch cowards that they are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z49-qfAo9w4

Ceffer says

Between the ever yawning rift and the Congressional gang stalkers, it's going to be interesting to see how this one pans out. It looks like exposure, and there is not enough lipstick for the pig. Congress look like the bunch of bait & switch cowards that they are.

Again, urban warfare isn't a genocide, or Mariupol, Grozny, Hue City, Fallujah, Caen, Arnhem, etc. were all "Genocides"

Strategies are becoming increasingly short term. Short term gain, long term pain. It's thrashing hysteria. Publicity fiat, gaslighting and MSM hegemony can't disguise it. There are only ten fingers for the dike.

They want the vector force of an unconstitutional law as a limited use effector for the limited time until it is shot down by the courts. However, the target is clear: they want to destroy our Constitution by hook or crook and first on the list is the First Amendment.

Something somewhere has been thrown off the rails. The timelines have been disrupted.

AmericanKulak says

Hamas broke a ceasefire without cause

Cause has been explained to you multiple times, you just continue to lie.

There's never been a ceasefire. Palestinians are killed every day on average and have been for the last 2 decades. Why anybody would give Israel any credibility when all they do is lie, and you repeat those lies for them - it's a mystery to me. It's dishonorable as well. I wouldn't do what you do, lie all the time.

You're not making an error at this point, you're deceiving people purposely.

NuttBoxer says

So what do you call Israel's plan to export all of Gaza to our door-step?

While getting us to pay for it. And pay for Israel settlers to move into the vacated land. In addition to the annual military and financial aid the US has been giving Irael for decades.

AmericanKulak says

If the Jews killed Jesus, then Jesus' sacrifice on the Cross is only for the Atonement of Jews. If Jesus didn't go to the Cross and be crucified, then there is no salvation from the ultimate Lamb.

PeopleUnited says

you can’t blame any group for His death. He willingly laid down his life for all (including Jews and non Jews).

The fact that his crucifixion was a fulfillment of prophecy does not negate the willing and predominant role that the Jews played in his illegal execution.

"For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost." - I Thessalonians 3:14-16

“Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.” - John 5:18

Pontius Pilate attempts to release Jesus, but the Jews refuse, and instead choose a criminal to be released:

"Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.

But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover: will ye therefore that I release unto you the King of the Jews?

Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber."
- John 18: 37-40

RayAmerica says

The fact that his crucifixion was a fulfillment of prophecy does not negate the willing and predominant role that the Jews played in his illegal execution.

Note: Not Vatican II.

RayAmerica says

Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost." - I Thessalonians 3:14-16

“Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.” - John 5:18

All the Jews? Including Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea? The latter not only being a Jew, but a Pharisee to boot?

There is an entire chapter dedicated to a Mystery revealed to Paul, rather than one-off verses from here and there about generic Jews:




https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11&version=ESV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+53&version=ESV

Hamassimps block intersection and attack driver in Saint Louis

To everyone who parrot'ed the bullshit rhetoric that this was ever about hostages:

#Israel under @Netanyahu will refuse to stop the war in exchange for a prisoner swap. Therefore, Netanyahu leaked to the Israeli media that he would go to Rafah with or without a deal to sabotage the negotiation.

No end of the war = no deal.
No Israeli withdrawal = no deal.

— Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 (@ejmalrai) May 4, 2024

Israel will not agree to end the war with Hamas as part of any potential deal, Israeli official tells ABC News. https://t.co/mC7dmgCtC3

— The Last American Vagabond (@TLAVagabond) May 4, 2024

A🧵debunking Israel's talking points on Rafah through the words of top *Israeli* generals & leaders on why the invasion:
Will NOT defeat Hamas
May cost the lives of all hostages
Is NOT necessary
& that Hamas is "still alive & kicking" in every city the IDF invaded & destroyed... pic.twitter.com/Kw0tpao5mi

— Muhammad Shehada (@muhammadshehad2) May 3, 2024

More Jewish anti-semites...

Protest for ceasefire hostage deal, against government, near Defense ministry headquarters in Tel Aviv, pic.twitter.com/LVaOfpiAsz

— Mairav Zonszein מרב זונשיין (@MairavZ) May 4, 2024

Haredi Jews in occupied Jerusalem burn the Israeli flag in protest against the new Israeli government conscription law, which mandates their enlistment in the occupation army due to the Gaza war. pic.twitter.com/3lTr3YnTQV

— Quds News Network (@QudsNen) May 3, 2024

I've now posted numerous sources showing Jews, WWII holocaust survivors support Palestinians, and are against the new holocaust taking place in Gaza. You are against the Jews. You're support is for Zionist terrorists, and their extremist government. Wait!? Isn't that exactly what you claim to be against!? Terrorist governments...?

I used to worry that Jewish people didn't know what was going on but just mindlessly supported it. They know what is going on now, most support it. I think it's easy to get people to support any evil.

Me thinks the problem lies in Nuttboxer painting with a broad brush. It’s like blaming “Americans “ for the atomic bomb, or “Russians “ for the attack of Kiev.

The Zionists are just scapegoat name for Jews who do things you don’t like. It must be tough to suffer from ZDS and think “Zionist man bad” no matter what “Zionist” does.

Guess what, there are white people who do those things or worse. Why don’t you scapegoat them too?

But you only care what your preferred scapegoat does. Even if they are legit defending themselves from Anti-Jew terrorists.

PeopleUnited says

The Zionists are just scapegoat name for Jews who do things you don’t like

No! For fucking sake I've explained many times exactly what I mean by Zionists

It's a group of Jewish bigot criminals that stole a huge piece of land and have been intentuinally and methodically torturing their victims for over 7 decades

They drove out people in other middle Eastern countries then framed other people for their crimes. The Lavon Affair was NOT unique

They are the kings of false flags and they even tell you this, through deception we will make war. That is their motto.

Do you think making war and constant deception is a good or bad thing? You're the religious guy around constantly making certain everybody knows you are highly religious because that's a mask evil peole wear. If somebody won't shut up about how much they really believe be wary of them, you will know them by their deeds though.

You just purposely conflated Zionists with Jews. It's like confusing Nazis with all Germans. Zionusts are pure evil. They just love to torture. They have. I desire for a fair solution, and if they acted this way in Europe, no wonder they are persecuted for all the torture they engage in.

They are not religious. They are almost all atheists but they use the myth they made up for the justification in stealing the land.

NuttBoxer says

To everyone who parrot'ed the bullshit rhetoric that this was ever about hostages:

It's not about the warcrime of taking civilian hostages, it's about eliminating Hamas. You can't make a ceasefire with a group that broke the last one to kill 1200 civilians.

There's no evidence that most of the hostages are even alive anymore, the IRC is absolutely refusing to do their job to check on them.

Also, the "Deal" Hamas is offering is an unconditional surrender by Israel after their 1200 terror attack + 100s of hostages, a release of all their terrorists, and total withdrawal and another ceasefire like they one they just broke October 7th without cause or warning. As they're on the ropes. No. Eliminate Hamas.

Biden is holding back ammo approved by Congress, the same issue with aid the Democrats tried to impeach Trump on, because Biden doesn't want Hamas eliminated.

I would also notice (this isn't aimed at Nutt Boxer), that a guy who claimed for years on this board that he was uninterested in the Conflict and didn't care who won, sure is having a shitfit about one side clearly starting to end it.

AmericanKulak says

It's not about the warcrime of taking civilian hostages, it's about eliminating Hamas. You can't make a ceasefire with a group that broke the last one to kill 1200 civilians.

A bunch of them were killed by the IDF, I've explained the Hannibal Directive before You just ignore it.

Hostages coming forward to the IDF have been killed multiple times. Israel doesn't want them back, they are just an excuse to bomb Gaza. Israel doesn't care about it's citizens any more than the US government cares about their citizens.

Hamas is funded by Israel and has been for years. Yet you only blame Palestinians for them being around. If Israel didn't fund them, there would t have been an October 7th. You are only concerned with Jewish deaths. You don't care about either Muslims of Christians being killed or children being killed.

The Harvard CAPS-Harris survey shared with The Hill showed 80 percent of registered voters said they support Israel more in the war, while 20 percent said they support Hamas more. That is about in line with the poll’s findings from last month, when 79 percent indicated they support Israel more.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4629597-americans-israel-hamas-gaza-student-protests-poll/

And another:


Why I'm simply calling myself an Anti-Communist now.

Ham-Ass now saying they can't deliver 40 live hostages to seal the ceasefire deal. Maybe can deliver bodies. Maybe.

RWSGFY says

Ham-Ass now saying they can't deliver 40 live hostages to seal the ceasefire deal. Maybe can deliver bodies. Maybe.

Where are they saying this? I like how you just magically know stuff and be er back it up.

Qatar-brokered Surrender to Hamas "Ceasefire" Proposal rejected by Israel

Fixed Link:

https://humanevents.com/2024/05/06/breaking-israel-rejects-far-reaching-ceasefire-proposal-agreed-to-by-hamas

Time for the IDF to exterminate Hamas utterly.

And for those who pretended to be all above-it-all and 'not caring' to be deeply disappointed.

We will come first for the Saturday people, and then for the Sunday people. - Muslim Brotherhood Slogan

AmericanKulak says

Time for the IDF to exterminate Hamas utterly.

Israel funded Hamas, they aren't going to destroy it.

This is like the US claiming they're going to destroy ISIS. So low IQ not to know what is going on at this point.

richwicks says

No! For fucking sake I've explained many times exactly what I mean by Zionists

It's a group of Jewish bigot criminals that stole a huge piece of land

I would disagree on this definition. It's the same criteria you use to define any group of bigots or racists. Zionists believe themselves to be superior to all other humans. Now they typically are an extremist sub-set of Jews, but as patnetters have clearly demonstrated, anyone can subscribe to Zionist beliefs, regardless of ethnicity. Just saying a self-hating Zionist is conceivable.

richwicks says

RWSGFY says

Ham-Ass now saying they can't deliver 40 live hostages to seal the ceasefire deal. Maybe can deliver bodies. Maybe.

Where are they saying this? I like how you just magically know stuff and be er back it up.

Obviously RWSGFY is the real ruler of the Zionist state, as without even bothering to read the Israeli government's own statements, he unilaterally has set terms.

Oh yeah, and those statements, posted right here in this thread. But he definitely didn't refuse to investigate, or READ. He's just the real ruler of Israel.

NuttBoxer says

richwicks says

RWSGFY says

Ham-Ass now saying they can't deliver 40 live hostages to seal the ceasefire deal. Maybe can deliver bodies. Maybe.

Where are they saying this? I like how you just magically know stuff and be er back it up.

Obviously RWSGFY is the real ruler of the Zionist state, as without even bothering to read the Israeli government's own statements, he unilaterally has set terms.

Oh yeah, and those statements, posted right here in this thread. But he definitely didn't refuse to investigate, or READ. He's just the real ruler of Israel.

That "richwicks" is either trying to be cute or so incompetent, he can't even google a simple news article.

Hamas has indicated it is currently unable to identify and track down 40 Israeli hostages needed for the first phase of a ceasefire deal, according to an Israeli official and a source familiar with the discussions, raising fears that more hostages may be dead than are publicly known.

The framework that has been laid out by negotiators says that during a first six-week pause in the fighting, Hamas should release 40 of the remaining hostages, including all the women as well as sick and elderly men. In exchange, hundreds of Palestinian prisoners would be released from Israeli prisons.

Hamas has told international mediators – which include Qatar and Egypt — it does not have 40 living hostages who match those criteria for release, both sources said. CNN’s record of the conditions of the hostages also suggests there are fewer than 40 living hostages who meet the proposed criteria.

NuttBoxer says

I would disagree on this definition. It's the same criteria you use to define any group of bigots or racists.

If the KKK was still active and not just a bunch of FBI agents and they were taken over the government, discriminating against anybody that wasn't them, I'd oppose them as well.

How do you describe a racist group, without pointing out they are a racist group. Don't call Jewish "Zionists", it's not code. I know plenty of Jewish people who are NOT Zionists and I worry about their future because of what Israel is doing.

NuttBoxer says

Now they typically are an extremist sub-set of Jews, but as patnetters have clearly demonstrated, anyone can subscribe to Zionist beliefs, regardless of ethnicity. Just saying a self-hating Zionist is conceivable.

Israel pays people to enter forums and promote Israeli propaganda. I have so much experience with them. You can't tell who is legitimately ignorant and brainwashed, and who pretends to be ignorant and is just doing a job to promote death and destruction and conflict. There's two types of Zionists in my opinion, the ignorant that really don't know what is going on, and the evil, that know precisely what is going on. Well, I'm not ignorant and I'm not evil.

NuttBoxer says

Obviously RWSGFY is the real ruler of the Zionist state, as without even bothering to read the Israeli government's own statements, he unilaterally has set terms.

He's just a constant stream of nonsense. I think he's propaganda.

The only reason to write something without backing up what you are saying, is if everybody already knows what you are saying and you're just venting, or you're spreading bullshit, and don't want people to check sources and data.

It's a habit of mine to check sources. The 40 beheaded babies? Took a couple hours for me to find out that was BS, but I heard the same stupid story told for months, our president restarted it. They reason people do atrocity propaganda, is because they are preparing to do a real atrocity. That's why you have to shut it down and sometimes you can have a small effect. Syria isn't in complete ruins, it would be if at least 1/2 the nation wasn't aware that the "Assad is gassing his own people" was a lie.

There is a responsibility in being correct. Look at how much economic damage has been done because a bunch of so-called Climate Scientists have lied about it for so long. You have kids entirely convinced the world is about to end, adopted entirely nihilistic viewpoints on the world, businesses making BS solutions that only make money because the government is dumping money into their "solutions", constant war to scramble for resources. We were energy independent 4 years ago.

Nothing good comes out of a lie.

richwicks says

He's just a constant stream of nonsense. I think he's propaganda.

The only reason to write something without backing up what you are saying, is if everybody already knows what you are saying and you're just venting, or you're spreading bullshit, and don't want people to check sources and data.

Dude, you are the one who's not aware of today's news. Nobody owes you anything. Get yourself informed or not, nobody gives a fuck.

The only question is: what the fuck are you doing in the thread if you don't know basic things about the subject of it? Can you even find Israel on the map or you believe it's somewhere in Antarctica? You are the one who thought North Stream pipeline was in the Black Sea after all.... Probably still do.

Eric Holder says

Dude, you are the one who's not aware of today's news.

News?

News like this?


original link

You don't know what news is. You still think you know where to find it. It's pretty easy for me, give me a source, I'll check the history of the source find out if they intentionally lied in the past, and if they have, I blacklist them. I have blacklisted the ENTIRE corporate media.

The "news" was once claiming 40 babies were brutally beheaded by Hamas. That wasn't true. Didn't stop people like you from repeating the lie for MONTHS. I'm just pointing out that nobody should trust you - I don't.

Eric Holder says

The only question is: what the fuck are you doing in the thread if you don't know basic things about the subject of it?

I do know basic things, like our government and our media lies a lot, a lot.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/gunshot-oklahoma-hospitals-ivermectin-overdose-b1914322.html

See, you just don't care if you're spreading malicious propaganda. I do. Ceffer doesn't care, and finally after showing him to be incorrect, to be reporting incorrect information, bullshit - I just gave up. He'll never stop he delights in spreading bullshit, it's the The Young Turks for Conservatives. He simply doesn't care if he's correct or not. He will be happy to repeat a report that complete bullshit that will cause a panic to anybody that believes it. He's got no problem with that. At one point I thought Ceffer wanted to actually know what is going on, so through a bit of effort and work I explained to him how he could know, that was a COMPLETE of my time. I thought he was sincere, he's not.

I don't think you are different. You couldn't care LESS if you were a small part is starting a genocide. You don't care.

People are calling this a genocide now, just wait. I know Israel very well. I know what the "generous proposal" was at Camp David, I had to find it in LeMonde, the Palestinians couldn't sign that. Why doesn't Israel make public statements on a *.gov site or *.il or whatever? Because if they are lying, they're called out on it. If comments are disabled, they are lying. If the comments are heavily moderated, they're lying. You don't care what it is.

richwicks says

Eric Holder says

Dude, you are the one who's not aware of today's news.

News?

News like this?

Ah, back to your old 2-step: "You claimed something but where's the link? -- Here's the link, you incompentent, search-challenged fuck! -- But I don't like that link! I want a link which says CIA did something and no other link will do!"

Eric Holder says

Ah, back to your old 2-step: "You claimed something but where's the link? -- Here's the link, you incompentent, search-challenged fuck! -- But I don't like that link! I want a link which says CIA did something and no other link will do!"

That my article.

Can you find an error in it? I went through, hyperlinked everything, including the original FSB tapped audio call between Geoffrey Pyatt and Victoria Nuland, looked up all the dates of when it happened, what kind of government they decided on, showed that is indeed the government they got, showed that it led to a civil war by finding a report on the Ukraine Civil War.

Is there anything in there that you find incorrect? Anything?

I'm not posting some fucking shit from some dumb fucking propagandist just CLAIMING this stuff happened. I explained in detail why I know it happened.

Wikipedia has everything in it, plus propaganda, but they don't lie about who staffs the government. I have a link to the BBC transcript, but I have the original video as well, and Victoria Nuland admitted it was an accurate recording, she complimented the FSB on their "tradecraft".

Is there anything incorrect or you suspect is incorrect in that article? You people don't know how to think. Does the BBC lie? Sure as fuck does, but their transcript is accurate, because I checked it by listening to the audio, and that audio was released on YouTube on Feb 4, 2014 before the "revolution". Can that be faked? Nope, especially when Victoria Nuland admitted its authenticity.

First coup plot in all of world history that I know of that was uncovered BEFORE the coup, and published to the public. You don't care. A world first, we could have stopped the coup and put these motherfuckers in jail, because they were caught before it happened. You just pretend not to see.

Eric Holder says

Ah, back to your old 2-step: "You claimed something but where's the link? -- Here's the link, you incompentent, search-challenged fuck! -- But I don't like that link! I want a link which says CIA did something and no other link will do!"

Ignores rebuttals dozens of times, then claims people ignore his PressTV or Adam Greene links.

For example, no matter how many times you show him that Hamas was a Muslim Brotherhood group that Israel did NOT "found" but instead supported as a means of dividing Fakestines from Fatah and PFLP (something that EVERY country does to destabilize their enemies), he goes right back to the "Israel started Hamas" line

That's why he's on ignore.

NuttBoxer says

I would disagree on this definition. It's the same criteria you use to define any group of bigots or racists. Zionists believe themselves to be superior to all other humans. Now they typically are an extremist sub-set of Jews, but as patnetters have clearly demonstrated, anyone can subscribe to Zionist beliefs, regardless of ethnicity. Just saying a self-hating Zionist is conceivable.

There are 4 Levantine Arab states, each one created by a "European Colonialist OMG!".

There is one Jewish state, created by fighting for itself against mutliple countries trying to annex the area when the British left before ajudicating the remaining 1/3 of the area, fully expecting Arabs to win and to divide it amongst themselves.

And the "But muh UN!" people always ignore the fact that Israel's existance was endorsed in the 1940s by a UN General Assembly Vote

"Ordinary Americans are fed up with Zionists"

The "Ordinary Americans":

Hamas in the next few weeks:

AmericanKulak says

There is one Jewish state, created by fighting for itself against mutliple countries trying to annex the area when the British left, fully expecting them to divide it amongst themselves.

Islam is not a monolithic religion. The Palestinians are Sunni, most of the Middle East is Shia. There are Palestinian refugee camps in Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan. The Sunni and Shia are happy to kill one another, and most of the Middle East doesn't care if Israel kills the Palestinians - ever talk to two of them? I have. Both said the other wasn't really Muslim, that the other was evil and I finally told them, they were both stupid and you're being divided in order to steal your resources and subjugate you to the West. That are happy to see the US go in and fuck up a nation of the "other religion".

Part of the Israeli Palestine conflict is simply to inflame tensions. The US always lies, it never negotiates in good faith, they always take Israel's side, the constantly use their veto power to protect Israel.

Do you think the US ALONE is the ONE nation out of over a hundred that is right?

When has the US been right in foreign policy in the Middle East before? Was the US right to go to war with Syria? Iraq? Is it right to continually apply pressure on Iran, sanctioning them? But magically, they are right about Israel - I doubt it.

Israel has Jewish only settlements which only Jews are allowed to be in, and there are plenty of nuts there. This was called the Al-Aqsa Flood because October 7th was a response to a bunch of radical Jewish settlers taking over the Al-Aqsa mosque. Does our media ever mention that? No, but I know about it. You would too, if we had a media. I have to research this shit.

According to Islamic mythology, Mohammed ascended to heaven from the Al-Aqsa mosque. It's would be like if Jewish people desecrated the tomb of Jesus or something. Israel attacks the ENTIRE religion all the time and eventually the Sunni and Shia will unite in a common resistance. Eventually that will happen, and there's only 10 million Israelis total. Stop beating the hornet's nest. I don't care what kind of weaponry they have, they are a small country and if you really get say 100 million motivated soldiers, they're done. Lots of experienced soldiers in the Middle East, we've been making them for 20 years. Afghanistan too. Logistics would be the problem, getting people from point A to point B.

This current razing of Gaza has, not government's pissed off, but people. Turkish people are pissed, pissed enough to possibly leave NATO and attack Israel. The government doesn't care, they were accepting stolen oil shipments from Syria for quite some time, and that war was very much exacerbated by Israel. Israel bombed the Damascus airport:

https://yandex.com/search/?text=israel+bombs+damascus+airport&lr=102749

The excuse was that they were bombing it to stop importation of weapons from Iran. Was this true? I dunno. Israel has been trying to drag us to go to war with Iran almost my entire life. in April 1984, Jane’s Defense Weekly reported that (supposedly) German intelligence drew the conclusion that Iran was about to get a nuclear weapon "soon". This was during the Iran/Iraq War, no doubt propaganda in order to keep that war going. That's back when Saddam Hussein was our ally.

Every few years "Iran is about to get a nuke" - nope at least not under the current regime. They have declared that nuclear weapons are a sin against God essentially, and refuse to develop them. They are useless anyhow - they can only be used as a deterrent.

And remember, Arab Muslim States whose religion states once an area is taken by the House of Peace, it can NEVER be returned.

Don't have any oil, so they can't compel dozens of countries that have no oil to go along with them.

It's all their superior morality; diplomatic and economic pressure doesn't exist in this one situation unique above all others.

AmericanKulak says

It's all their superior morality; diplomatic and economic pressure doesn't exist in this one situation unique above all others.

Religion is a political tool in Abrahamic religion, this is why we keep breaking down over "moral" bullshit, the people at the top don't consider morality at all, it's geostrategic interests.

Israel causes a lot of headaches and problems for many countries in the Middle East. They were one a pivotal nation to get us to go to war with Iraq. Remember the "yellowcake uranium from Niger"? That came from Israeli intelligence. I'm sure our government knew it was bullshit, but Israel implicated themselves in producing vital propaganda to start that war. We really don't know how many people are dead from that war, but 800,000 seems to be the number that is being settled on.