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Israeli "leaders" must have known about the impending attack and let it happen


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2023 Oct 13, 11:34am   19,229 views  223 comments

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The Wall Street Journal ran an intriguing story yesterday headlined, “Hamas Militants Had Detailed Maps of Israeli Towns, Military Bases and Infiltration Routes.” The sub-headline added, “Documents found on Hamas militants show scale of planning behind deadly attack.”



Nothing like this has ever happened before. Michael Milshtein, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and head of Palestinian Studies Forum at Tel Aviv University, confirmed “There is nothing close to this level of planning in any steps Hamas had done in the past.”

The newly-discovered plans suggest more sophisticated actors must have been involved. One 14-page document described in the article was labeled “top secret” in Arabic and dated June 15, 2023. It described a detailed plan for infiltrating Mefalsim, one of the small collective communities near Gaza (called a kibbutz), and taking its residents hostage. The document included maps and aerial pictures of the town, and disclosed intel that the kibbutz held 1,000 “civilians” guarded by a volunteer security force.


I expect it was allowed to happen to distract everyone from other issues (like the death of 8 year old Israeli toxxine poster boy Yonatan Erlichman from a heart attack) and to provide justification for stomping on Gaza.

Not that Hamas isn't guilty. The murder of random civilians for political reasons is the very definition of terrorism. Hamas must be wiped out.

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207   Ceffer   2024 Apr 30, 11:57pm  

Trump cracks me up.

208   PeopleUnited   2024 May 1, 1:11am  

Ceffer says

PeopleUnited says


I’m not defending Bibi, but he did not plan, nor execute the attacks of October 7, 2023.

That means it worked. It really, really worked.

It = the attack by Hamas terrorists on Israeli civilians
Worked = destabilized the Middle East, starting a renewed regional war and enriched weapons manufacturers while causing divisions in Europe and America.

Just like the Satanic globalists wanted.
209   NuttBoxer   2024 May 1, 11:27am  

RWSGFY says

Very easy to find:


This may surprise you, but were you aware pedophiles are capable of telling the truth? Way to prove the source has an disreputable character, but that doesn't prove what he said is false. Now if you were asking him to give you an opinion on age of consent, I could see your point. But you aren't. You're just throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Very liberal of you comrade..
210   Ceffer   2024 May 1, 11:36am  

PeopleUnited says


It = the attack by Hamas terrorists on Israeli civilians

Facts not in evidence. If it's the Uniside, it was collaboration. Many of the casualties on Israelis were inflicted by Israeli aerial gunboats. Fog of War: as soon as the 'hostilities' start, both sides start lying like thieves to ramp up the allegations of atrocities against the other to keep the 'conflict' going. As usual, the truth is the first victim and that's the way they like it. He who lies loudest and longest prevails? Who commands the best bullhorns?

PeopleUnited says


Worked = destabilized the Middle East, starting a renewed regional war and enriched weapons manufacturers while causing divisions in Europe and America.

Just like the Satanic globalists wanted.

Well, that part is right. It's just a matter of how they can displace origins, sources, motives and blame.
211   Eric Holder   2024 May 1, 1:20pm  

personal
212   RayAmerica   2024 May 1, 2:33pm  

Are Governments willing to purposely sacrifice the lives of thousands of their own citizens if it leads to the achievement of their geo-political goals?

Do you even need to ask yourself this question?
213   AmericanKulak   2024 May 1, 3:19pm  

Ceffer says


Trump confirms the false flag.

It's not a false flag Trump is possibly alleging. There's no doubt Hamas attacked, and the world was pumped full of video taken by the perps livestreaming their killings.
214   richwicks   2024 May 1, 4:02pm  

Eric Holder says


And just like that NB is taking pedos' words as a gospel.


Scott Ritter was correct that Saddam Hussein didn't have a weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq.

Do you dispute this?

Do you dispute this?

Answer, do you dispute this?

I bet you won't answer.

Let's say Ritter was fucking kids, let's just assume that happened tons. 800,000 Iraqis are dead because of that stupid fucking war over a fucking lie. How many were kids? Pretty good bet it's more than 1000. If Ritter was able to stop that war, I wouldn't care how many kids he fucked, IF he was able to stop that war, and if I knew he stopped it, and he wasn't able to stop it. He tried. That's why they went after him, ONLY reason. He THREATENED to stop that war, so they punished him as hard as they possibly could, and that was it.

Have some fucking perspective.

Ritter wasn't targeted because he's a pedophile. He was targeted because he pointed out the Bush administration lied to start a horrific war. Our government doesn't care about pedophiles, you goddamned well know this:



It's been proven, over and over and over again. Either you're an idiot, and I don't really know any truly stupid people, or you're immoral. I know lots of immoral people - most people are immoral. This idea that Satan runs the world? People like you do. Go along to get along, keep your head down. I'm not evil, much to my detriment.

Here's a question - kill a kid and make a billion dollars, or kill yourself - given those choices which would you pick? You're guaranteed not to be caught. I don't give a shit what you're going to tell me, but I'll tell you what I'd do, I'd kill myself without any reservation for any kid.

It seems impossible to me you haven't gone through the logic I just did, you must have, an idiot up to a genius would. Just the despicability of the world is over-whelming to me. Our government doesn't give a FUCK about pedophiles, Dennis Hastert was a pedophile, and Speaker of the House under George W. Bush. Why didn't they prosecute him for fucking kids, getting one to kill himself? Because he went along to get along to do that war, that murdered 800,000 people over a lie. That's why they looked the other way. Hastert wasn't just propositioning kids, which is what Ritter was convicted of, he fucked them. Name a victim of Scott Ritter? Any idea who Steven Reinboldt is? Killed himself in 1995.

So fucking stop to PRETEND to fret over Ritter's conviction. You don't give a shit. Just like those liberal talking heads that pretended to care that Trump was "out of his mind", and covers up we have a senile, corrupt pedophile, who is selling his office through his crackwhore son who makes "art" for bribes. Stop pretending. What is your morality? Do you have any?
215   PeopleUnited   2024 May 1, 7:57pm  

Ceffer says

Facts not in evidence. If it's the Uniside, it was collaboration. Many of the casualties on Israelis were inflicted by Israeli aerial gunboats. Fog of War: as soon as the 'hostilities' start, both sides start lying like thieves to ramp up the allegations of atrocities against the other to keep the 'conflict' going. As usual, the truth is the first victim and that's the way they like it.

The truth is Hamas crossed over, killed people, took hostages, and celebrated it with live-streams. They still have hostages. They have called for others to attack, and others have.

You don’t have to like Israel, but clearly they were attacked, and the fact Iran, Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah in Lebanon continue to threaten and attack is further evidence that Israel did not pick this fight. The Islamic antisemites started this battle. It will end when the antisemites agree to peace.
216   richwicks   2024 May 2, 7:42am  

PeopleUnited says

They have called for others to attack, and others have.

Where and how?

Stop spreading bullshit
217   NuttBoxer   2024 May 2, 8:22am  

@Eric Holder I reported you because you don't have any quotes from me to support those accusations, so your comment is just an attempt to slander my character, because I pointed out the huge logic gap in your argument. Only liars resort to this type of behavior, because the truth is it's own defense.

Are you so desperate to never appear wrong that this is how you choose to interact now?
218   richwicks   2024 May 2, 8:27am  

NuttBoxer says

Eric Holder I reported you because you don't have any quotes from me to support those accusations, so your comment is just an attempt to slander my character, because I pointed out the huge logic gap in your argument. Only liars resort to this type of behavior, because the truth is it's own defense.

Are you so desperate to never appear wrong that this is how you choose to interact now?

My opinion is he's just a scumbag. Go over his past posts, judge for yourself.
220   Patrick   2024 May 22, 7:37pm  

https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/asymmetric-idiocy


Do you seriously believe that the leadership of Hamas did not know exactly how Israel would respond to the slaughter of hundreds of Israeli citizens, families, children, people at a rave? If you honestly believe that, I don’t know what to say.

The goal of the “Al-Aqsa Flood” attack was to provoke precisely the response it has provoked. There is nothing mysterious or complicated about this. It is Asymmetric Warfare 101, straight out of the Terrorism textbook.


Israel allowed Hamas to attack on Oct 7th in order to have a justification for attacking Hamas in Gaza, and Hamas was delighted with Israel's even larger slaughter of Palestinians.

Both sides are simply arranging for their own people to be murdered to gain sympathy points in the media.


221   NuttBoxer   2024 May 22, 8:20pm  

Sympathy isn't much of an incentive. I'd say more likely reasons include Hamas leadership needing to refill the coffers, Israel wanting the land, US wanting the resources. But the even more likely scenario is deep state wanting to test out mass extermination, gauge people's tolerance for it, create yet another divisive topic to divide morons, child trafficking, money laundering, bringing US citizens closer to 3rd World status, and good ol' Satanic sacrifices.
222   gabbar   2024 May 23, 2:44am  

Patrick says

Israel allowed Hamas to attack on Oct 7th in order to have a justification for attacking Hamas in Gaza, and Hamas was delighted with Israel's even larger slaughter of Palestinians.

Both sides are simply arranging for their own people to be murdered to gain sympathy points in the media.

Now we have animosity that will last for generations.
223   PeopleUnited   2024 May 23, 5:21am  

Patrick says


Both sides are simply arranging for their own people to be murdered to gain sympathy points in the media.

It is war. It is not about people, or saving lives. It certainly is not about quality of life or freedom or any of those great ideals that Americans are used to hearing as reasons for war. It is about WINNING. Hamas hoped their attack would rally other Islamic terrorists to join the fight. Hamas wants to destroy Israel from the river to the sea. They hoped their attack would be the spark that ignites a larger Islamic war to destroy Israel. It still might be that spark and blaming Israel for the attack plays right into Hamas’s plan to defeat Israel.

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