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Blue says

Now everything is offensive and rewarding them (to buy votes;) and in turn promoting a lazy culture as a side effect.

yeah like the Saturday Night Live claptrap and echo chamber

as well as a lot of the late night talk shows

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Eman has posted a lot here about how he made money.

I encouraged Eman to describe specifically all what he did to achieve and sustain his wealth, and write an electronic book and sell on Amazon, even if it is $1 and no more than 100 pages.

I want to read that book as all of what he has stated will be within the virtual front and back covers of that book.

Patrick wrote a book and that was one of the main reasons why I came to Patnet besides Patrick's 20/20 interview on the housing bubble.

Isn't that positive and not-dumb feedback to Eman ?

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Gee, wouldn't Patnet be the poorer if Ted Bundy's Mom and defense lawyer didn't show up to editorialize once in a while about his innocence.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i don’t think people here are dumb, quite opposite. i appreciate the honesty

I tend to agree with this. But the ones that run... were they being honest? My guess is no. I'm not ever going to dox myself, but I could prove pretty much every comment on this site from me if we had a meet up. Some opinions and predictions might have been wrong. But anything I've commented on about my personal life without giving too much away has been truthful.

My life has been amazing bad. I share it here as therapy so to speak. I've lied in person, but what's the point in lying here? Patrick is the only one that knows my first name and it's common, so it's not a biggie. I've shared a lot and if someone had the PI skills you could probably find me. So I tread lightly.

When it comes to money I do think many past and present users do fluff. It's kind of obvious. Eman I think was one of those even though he had solid insight. I don't think the life he displayed here was real though. You don't buy a Tesla if you make over $1M. Did he do well, probably. Not 8 figures like he claimed. You're not on Patnet if you make 8 figures or are worth it. That's just fact.

The use of Hate in this context, is purely a mental trap. One side has a valid argument, so the other side can only diminish the impact of their grievances by labeling them with unfounded hate. And it works. I remember in 2016 shortly after Trump just came in office. My black musician friend at the time. Was bemoaning Trump and getting sucked into the Left's vitriol toward Trump and his supporters.. Everything he said about Trump, I explained what's really going on, and exposed the Left's hypocrisy. As 90% of everything said about Trump was a deflection and projection of their sins and crimes. They would affix to Trump. Finally lost for words, Tim just shouted. "I'm sick of all of the Hate!".

Not grasping for a second, that all of the Hate was coming from the Left. We certainly didn't go to the National Mall and try to shut down Obama's inauguration, which had just happened at the time to Trump. The conservative news didn't do 24/7 commentary despising Obama and partaking in hyperbolic lies about him, while twisting it as Obama's hate.

I eventually cut ties with him, his hate and his hate projection was just too much for me.

I didn't have hate for anyone. I was concerned that our country was being taken over by Commies and they were being protected by useful idiots like Tim.
And now Nutboxer apparently.

I'll leave you with this.
If Trump supporters were motivated by Hate, by now, the MAGA movement would be one of the bloodiest violent movements in American history.
It's not because we know we're dealing with people with severely diminished mental abilities. They aren't smart enough to be that angry about. All we have to do is wait them out for the worm to turn. People this fucking stupid always fall out of favor and into their own traps. If you don't allow them to suck you into those conflicts.

Just wait until the inner city minorities get fed up with the importation of their foreign cheap labor replacements. They wont deal with it, as logically as Trump supporters has. The left is about to discover real hate, from a base they took for granted.

WookieMan says

I don't hate anyone.

You don't hate teachers who indoctrinate children with woke or LGBT? Or the government that allows it?

GNL says

You don't hate teachers who indoctrinate children with woke or LGBT? Or the government that allows it?

My pal brought one of those dumb bitches back to my condo in Maui. We were all sitting on the seawall and she brought up how she has instilled fear of climate change into her students. I told her she was an evil bitch (before I kicked her out, pissing off my pal) for doing that as it's BS and she called me a climate denier lol..

After that she asked if I was "some sort of scientist" and when I responded yes she was short on words.

Tenpoundbass says

Just wait until the inner city minorities get fed up with the importation of their foreign cheap labor replacements.

That cheap labor produces the stuff that inner city minorities buy with their welfare money. The problem will come when the illegals compete for welfare rather than work.

Hatred can't make me stupider. That's impossible.

Emotions become extreme when it feels like they have no resolution. I've disagreed on "mainstream" views on plenty of topics my entire life but I never experienced feeling genuine hatred until I felt my voice was neither being acknowledged or being considered as valid. I've never liked the people of my city very much, that mild neutrality turned into hatred when people openly supported mask and vaccine mandates despite there being much evidence those protocols don't work.

Such experience is repeated with several other topics. I was in university when these gender things started bubbling up and I had what I thought were quaint conversations with people that had very odd and unhealthy ideas about sexuality. I never once considered that I hated them, until many years later those same ideas are now being lauded as just as important as math and reading. When it became clear that they were uninterested in seeing what everyone else thought as valid, then hatred began to bubble up.

To conclude, such feelings are inevitable on an internet forum. Are you really going to change someone's mind on a topic that they care deeply about with just a few paragraphs? Maybe not, it might be worth a shot once or twice. Approaching the same people over and over again, with the expectation that they'll suddenly align with your views, is only setting yourself up to get mad. Sometimes it may very well be that both people are right and some things are more complicated than we imagine. Alas, I am rambling to internet strangers.

GNL says

WookieMan says

I don't hate anyone.

You don't hate teachers who indoctrinate children with woke or LGBT? Or the government that allows it?

Nope. I'm a parent. I teach my kids. Also my district isn't gay. The teachers are educated for the job, but live country life. You won't see a rainbow flag in my town.

I know guys that could potentially kill if they felt their son or daughter were being indoctrinated. That is not a joke. Teachers know it too.

So my view is biased on hatred. I live in an area where it's hard to hate anyone. I don't even hate Joe Biden, I just dislike him and he has done some "okay" things policy wise with the CHIPS act. Not reelection worthy though and his family is trash. I'm nuanced. I'm 100% voting Trump, but he has his flaws. Hence why I don't "hate" anyone.

Hate is a strong word. You have to do something to my wife or kids for a hate reaction. It's happened a couple times. Once we got $5k out of it. I was pissed more than anything. Guy probably lost his job, but really don't care. You mess with my family you will at least be met with my anger.

The only way a society is really protected is by the whole society taking action for each other not just for yourself.

Nice to see many of you are still around, and these are some of the better comments I've seen in a while.

To clarify, I don't know of any patnetters who hate each other. I was referring to the societal trend that I also see playing out here where individuals have developed an irrational hatred of particular groups of people. To the point where they will justify almost any atrocity committed against that group. I believe in every case these individuals have never actually met or gotten to know anyone from this group they hate so much.
I agree with Rick that alot of times this hatred is fueled by propaganda devised to divide people along the lines of false dichotomies. But regardless of the reason, this trend of de-humanizing, and attempting to box people into a false-dilemma does not bode well for our future. These attitudes are exactly what led to the rise of Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, etc.

If we stoop to the level of the radical leftist/neo-con/Muslim/Christian/Jew/government/Communist how does that make the world any better?

NuttBoxer says

Now I know, the bar wasn't very high to start with, but seems like a lot of patnetters have gotten much dumber the past few years.

That's a great way to get your message across. Start with an insult. LOL That's right out of Dale Carnegies book How to Win Friends & Influence People

komputodo says

NuttBoxer says

Now I know, the bar wasn't very high to start with, but seems like a lot of patnetters have gotten much dumber the past few years.

That's a great way to get your message across. Start with an insult. LOL That's right out of Dale Carnegies book How to Win Friends & Influence People

Yeah. I mean I've said some harsh things about Patnetters myself. Also out of a sense of frustration. But I don't think I topped the People Skills Fuckup of Nuttboxer here.

What is amazing to me is how Nuttboxer is essentially taking the exact same stance as Those-Who-Think-They-Our-Betters do with regards to handling 'misinformation'. And he doesn't seem to realize that.

By association I have insulted myself as well, as I am a patnetter. Fairly common 4chan tactic..

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

Yeah. I mean I've said some harsh things about Patnetters myself. Also out of a sense of frustration. But I don't think I topped the People Skills Fuckup of Nuttboxer here.

I think sometimes calling someone out and jest can be misconstrued. Sarcasm is a sharp knife for some. They take it seriously. I just don't care. I know you're all fuckers, that's at least how I live my life. If I did otherwise I'd be constantly offended. I'm not.

10# is the only one that cannot write well. I actually respect he doesn't give a shit though. Not joking. Not meant to be a dig. Dude just puts it out there as he feels. I'm good with that. I'm good if someone throws shit at me. I'm insomnia mode and maybe slightly drunk many times. Oh well. I have more ignores than I'd like but fuck them. Adult diapers exist if you're gonna be a baby.

WookieMan says

Adult diapers exist if you're gonna be a baby.

re: That's a great way to get your message across. Start with an insult. LOL That's right out of Dale Carnegies book How to Win Friends & Influence People
And finish with one LOL

LOL is one of the best trolls. I'm trolling when you see an LOL in my comments. As I mentioned above the sharp knife of sarcasm. LOL is just the pearing knife... Lol. I didn't bring out the big boy knife.... yet.

NuttBoxer says

By association I have insulted myself as well, as I am a patnetter. Fairly common 4chan tactic..

Points for original comeback, at least.

WookieMan says

I have more ignores than I'd like but fuck them

I may be wrong, but aren't you a PatNet moderator?

NuttBoxer says

I agree with Rick that alot of times this hatred is fueled by propaganda devised to divide people along the lines of false dichotomies.

You know why? Because it works and always will. It's a time tested strategy that will always work. Homogeny is a survival tactic.

WookieMan says

LOL is one of the best trolls. I'm trolling when you see an LOL in my comments. As I mentioned above the sharp knife of sarcasm. LOL is just the pearing knife... Lol. I didn't bring out the big boy knife.... yet.

Lately I've been inventing ways to incorporate bloodbath into my online posts and comments. If the ppl I direct my comment to don't get it, it is obvious to those who do. Others (so far not here) get their TDS triggered and the result of that is even more satisfying.

Been using it on socal2. I don't think he gets it.

In the minority, but I find John Oliver histerical. Perhaps it's the British accent and the glasses, but he has a Monty Python-esque absurdity about him.

He was great in Community. But the guy gets a bit too political at times. I think that's where he loses people.

Bloodbaths are fine as long as they are adrenochrome bloodbaths. Elizabeth Báthory is making a comeback. Old dynastic habits die hard.

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

WookieMan says

I have more ignores than I'd like but fuck them

I may be wrong, but aren't you a PatNet moderator?

Yes. I honestly don't like to moderate comments. Unless it's super aggressive. I live in a world of sarcasm, bull shitting and trolling (sometimes).

You piss me off at times, but that's your right. Everyone has pretty much pissed me off here including Patrick. I let Patrick and the others manage it for the most part. Spam is pretty much the only thing I push into the dumpster. Probably only 4-5 times in the past year.

Moderation is a tricky line to balance on as a moderator. I don't want to be accused of censoring anyone. Doxxing is a huge no no for me, but I don't think that's happened in years here. The crew here is pretty solid despite differences, at least I think so. You piss me off with Ukraine and I like your take on EV's and Tesla.

We can't all have the same opinions on everything. What fun would that be? I don't like echo chambers.

WookieMan says

Yes. I honestly don't like to moderate comments.

Then why are ignores allowed on you?

NuttBoxer says

To the point where they will justify almost any atrocity committed against that group. I believe in every case these individuals have never actually met or gotten to know anyone from this group they hate so much.

You don't have to meet them, and sometimes you clearly can't as it's impossible, impractical and you've got your own things to take care of. Doesn't mean you aren't entitled to forming an opinion on facts. You could have never met a black person in the US but could form a opinion based in the fact they commit more crimes per capita (of course there are differences within the heritage, culture, social status etc.). Same goes for this conflict. Hamas has been hurling rockets ever since, add on the atrocities of the last incident and they will get payback. And of course there will be collateral damage. I'm pretty critical of Israel's policies but I can clearly see the point people are making on here on both sides, and it's certainly not blind hate. It's at least a tad bit similar to the Ukraine conflict, where there have been constant aggressions against the Russians in the contested independent regions, for many years. And people are surprised when finally a conflict breaks out? Please..

NuttBoxer says

These attitudes are exactly what led to the rise of Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, etc.

There's a big difference here, those tyrants had all of the bad asses and ass kickers on their side. America is being wrung through a tyrannical wringer, and it's the low intelligent free loaders going along with it. None of those historical tyrants listed above, could have pulled it off with gender confused adult infants that is the American Democrat party. They are the ones that hate us and America so bad to the point, everything is upheaval and turmoil. Just look at their art, every last bit of it is satanic, dystopian, futile, unhappy, devoid of classic story telling. These people are not only knuckle dragging idiots, they are mentally ill as well. To classify our displeasure with that lot, as the same kind of hate, is really short sighted on your part, if you can't see the difference.

I also am tired of all of the Hate and Hate projection from the Left. I would love nothing more than for it to stop. But it probably wont until there's a bloodbath.

Does hate have any value?

GNL says

Does hate have any value?

It can be a survival trait.

mell says

Doesn't mean you aren't entitled to forming an opinion on facts. You could have never met a black person in the US but could form a opinion based in the fact they commit more crimes per capita (of course there are differences within the heritage, culture, social status etc.). Same goes for this conflict. Hamas has been hurling rockets ever since, add on the atrocities of the last incident and they will get payback.

I think it's pretty clear the point I'm making is hatred isn't based on facts at all, just emotion, fueled by propaganda. The one exception I could possibly think of is pedophiles. But that's neither religious, ethnic, nor national. In your example(ethnic), you quickly added a number of caveats, because you don't hate blacks.

You don't have objective facts about the Middle East. The information you've cited isn't even close to as black and white as you think. And if you don't want to learn why, I'll refer you back to the OP...

Tenpoundbass says

There's a big difference here, those tyrants had all of the bad asses and ass kickers on their side.

They took advantage of a radicalized environment to prey on people's irrational hatred of certain groups. Most of the "ass-kickers" you refer to are the ones who later said they were "just following orders". I've seen documentaries of former Tuel Sleng guards literally saying this excuse, or that they feared if they didn't comply, worse would happen to them.

The VAST majority are not sociopaths. But with no moral foundation, people can easily slip into justifying the worst atrocities. Maybe that's really what I'm really pointing out, that's we're losing our way morally. Moving further from God, and closer to Satan.

NuttBoxer says

The VAST majority are not sociopaths. But with no moral foundation, people can easily slip into justifying the worst atrocities.

Noone yet has been held accountable for masking kids, forcing an experimental and ineffective yet dangerous jab, closing schools and businesses over a cold, or banning effective meds like GCQ and Ivermectin. Look how many actually supported jailing or denying services to the unjabbed.

To further expand on this topic beyond..

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/enlightenment-ignorance-societys-dangerous-embrace-stupidity

Another example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1btakf1/ive_been_documenting_an_uptick_of_human/