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Ahhh, poor Mark, he may get a chance to mature someday. :-)

Yo wog.
Since the real estate market in the US has NEVER behaved as you are saying that it is going to, i.e., significant appreciation in the absence of job growth or meaningful economic growth, and in the face of rising interest rates, what you are saying is the ever precarious "THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT".
That phrase is always a sphincter tightener if one has money on the Pass Line.

As I have noted before, you Sir, are quite the Baller.

The chart is very interesting, and I enjoy information, instead of hurling insults post after post, but for some reason your very informative post repeats itself about twenty times. May want to delete a few as to not completely turn off potential readers.

hrhjuliet says

The chart is very interesting, and I enjoy information, instead of hurling insults post after post, but for some reason your very informative post repeats itself about twenty times. May want to delete a few as to not completely turn off potential readers.

Thank you, glad to hear the content is useful. Your 'Comment clean up' advice is welcome, I agree, will aim to do so soon. And did you see this from today:
http://patrick.net/?p=1235929
If you have any other suggestions re. more readers, be glad to hear.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

Yeah, every time a mother strokes a child's hair it's a clear signal sent straight from the neocon-zionist overlords. Or not.

You weren't paying close enough attention.

Oh, I was paying close enough attention to note that at 0.22 a hand on the head apparently means 'the police officers are on the roof', whilst the same hand on the head at 1.02 is code for 'Yeah.' Go figure.

Mark D says

Meccos says

hrhjuliet says

Mark D says

hrhjuliet says

I am assuming by all your posts that you are a real estate agent.

you are retarded.

You don't need to be rude and unartful. Clearly you feel being a real estate agent is an insult. I was merely indicating the obvious that you seem very invested in seeing people buy. Why if you are not a real estate agent? Are you heavily invested?

valid point...so quick to insult. Looks like someone is projecting...

Another gem of Patnet RE forums ^

Then why are you so defensive and so quick to insult?
Its funny that you attack someone for really no good reason then get your panties in a bunch when someone calls you out on it.

bubbleisback2 says

Our household has a reasonable income with approximately 7x the median, we rent in San Francisco because we cannot afford anything decent (3+ bedrooms, nice front, two floors single family house).

Your household makes over $500,000 a year and you can only afford to rent? I know San Francisco is expensive, but...

jazz music says

All our friends are intelligent, gentle, socially caring, politically aware, well educated, cultured and interesting, populists, and we left them all back in Southern California!!!

I enjoyed your insights, and you're right -- the shitkicker:nosepicker ratio is pretty high down there. The low barrier to entry is actually the unfortunate drawback to Florida: because it's so easy to live there, it attracts a lot of...not-so-deep thinkers. It's insane in a way, but you want to live in a place where other people want to live there so bad, they make sacrifices in personal comfort in order to do so -- whether it be fiscal or climate-related in nature. That requires a certain character, and it's nice to call that type of person your neighbor. If it's too easy, everyone piles in.

But, my prediction remains: as more gentlefolk like yourself set up shop -- people with Tal Farlow recordings in their collections and the electric turned on upstairs -- the more attractive this little peninsula will become. I think you're in good standing. I'm definitely giving Florida a second look. It wasn't always the way it is now, and it won't always be.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/lyfxgL4AFWg

jazz music says

Oh yeah when they hear you are Californian they automatically start talking about how you can't get away with marijuana in Florida like you can in California. So here's the law on that

MARIJUANA POSSESSION IN FLORIDA:

20 grams or less. Misdemeanor 1 year $1,000

More than 20 grams Felony 5 years $5,000

25 plants Felony 15 years $10,000

Possession of paraphernalia Misdemeanor 1 year $1,000

Good luck getting any kind of job with a pot bust record

regardless if its in CA or Florida... you still have "Criminal" record.

I'll give you a nickel if you bust up my chifforobe...

http://www.youtube.com/embed/ojydQ3_FDqI

JodyChunder says

I think you're in good standing. I'm definitely giving Florida a second look.

prices are back to norm.. as it would be proper to call a Recovery...

Strategist says

It's biology. Females are more responsible and focused, while males are more into making money, partying and flirting with waitresses.

I have been more successful with investment decisions. It's a great partnership, which in our case has survived the 25th anniversary.

oh yes... PMS!

bgamall4 says

I am not changing my view that these are bad actors and you can say all you want and it won't change me.

I'm glad you are so interested in the truth rather than merely wanting to reinforce your particular take on conspiracy theories.

I have plenty of evidence to back it up.
It's called 'global warming'
In 10 generations there will be no white people.
Just mahogony blacks and washington redskins.
foxmannumber1 says

SoftShell says

Give it another 9-10 generations...we will have to grow out of it over the long haul

You have no evidence to back this up.

Diversity in white countries is very expensive and not beneficial for the white citizens and very inexpensive and very beneficial for the nonwhites. Once the white money runs out, things will go back to the way they were not even 50 years ago: racial ethno-states.

Diversity in nonwhite countries is non existant.

bgamall4 says

I am. I am interested in the truth. You on the other hand, have worms in your head, bugsby, and you could care less about the truth.

No you aren't. You just said nothing can change your mind. The evidence against what you argue is absolutely overwhelming, and yet...

bgamall4 says

You don't even argue that the acting by Obama, Parker, and Roig isn't fake.

That's because I don't believe they are acting. Just as I don't believe that mother is using hand signals, or that actors were brought in from NYC, or...

bgamall4 says

You don't want to look more foolish than you already do.

I think you need to read your posts.

bgamall4 says

Homeboy says

Ah, I see you went back in the thread and deleted my picture of Kaitlin with her mouth open that shows her teeth are completely different,

Actually, they aren't different enough.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. Either they are the same woman or they aren't. There can't be degrees of difference if you are claiming it's the same person.

bgamall4 says

You have to look at the overall hand signal regime on this little girl. You are hair splitting, which is why you are incapable of learning. Watch the entire video over and over and the signals are impossible to ignore.

I have. And I can clearly state that this particular piece of 'proof' is embarrassing even for you. And that's saying something.

Mark D says

Meccos says

Its funny that you attack someone for really no good reason

no good reason? like i said you truly are a gem. he is dishonest. but you are simply dumb.

There you go again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJLIqdFRHg0

SoftShell says

I have plenty of evidence to back it up.

It's called 'global warming'

In 10 generations there will be no white people.

Just mahogony blacks and washington redskins.

When liberals have no facts or are just flat out wrong, they resort to comedy in the hopes that being funny will change the subject. This made Jon Leibowitz a lot of money.

The few Western Europeans who immigrate to the USA have very few violent conflicts with current citizens and assimilate into the American life just fine. There is no need to wait 8-9 generations for them to become a productive citizen. When you import people with a 100+ average genetic IQ, things go smoothly.

When sub Saharan Africans are transplanted into the USA there are many violent conflicts with current citizens and wherever they end up crime of all sorts goes up. The Somali invasion in Minnesota is a good example of this. At 8-9 generations from now, your great, great grandchildren will be putting up with this unnecessary violence. When you import people with a 70-85 average genetic IQ, things go poorly.

What liberals call 'white privilege' is just the genetic IQ gap between whites and hispanics/blacks.

anonymous says

Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson: "Girls should carry a Bible and marry 'when they are 15" "Make sure that she can cook a meal, you need to eat some meals that she cooks, check that out," he said. "Make sure she carries her Bible. That'll save you a lot of trouble down the road. And if she picks your ducks, now, that's a woman."

Yup! Remember that episode very well, he told that to his grandson, who he made put down video controllers and then go duck hunting with him. While he lectured them on what his idea of a good woman is. To tell you the truth, I can't say I disagree with him. I found a Peruvian version, finding a good White woman in this country is getting harder. They would rather Twerk than Work. You'll find them, but you'll have to go to deep in the swamp and forest if you want to find the "Good ones".

When conservatives recognize that teabagging extremists are dragging down the party with racist layers of bullshit ( How'd the Western European mafia work out for ya with their 'very few violent conflicts' over the decades? ) they would do well to point out to their teabaggin brethern that their sub-saharan genetic makeup ( with the associated IQ diminishment ) has become the dominant force in their day to day thought process.

Time does heal (really, it does. look it up, plenty of 'facts' available ), regardless of the racist tone you like to project.

foxmannumber1 says

SoftShell says

I have plenty of evidence to back it up.


It's called 'global warming'


In 10 generations there will be no white people.


Just mahogony blacks and washington redskins.

When liberals have no facts or are just flat out wrong, they resort to comedy in the hopes that being funny will change the subject. This made Jon Leibowitz a lot of money.

The few Western Europeans who immigrate to the USA have very few violent conflicts with current citizens and assimilate into the American life just fine.

SoftShell says

When conservatives recognize that teabagging extremists are dragging down the party with racist layers of bullshit

Conservatives just want a country where the average citizen IQ is 100 or greater. This will naturally exclude a lot of blacks and browns. I do believe that in a white ethno state, many current conservatives would be more financially liberal because their money would not be wasted like it is today.

Only 10% of "african americans" have an IQ of 100 or greater. The pure bred sub Saharan african rate of 100 or greater IQ's is even less. Anything over 115 for blacks is very, very rare.

The number of black murders makes the number of white organized crime murders look very small. White organized crime was for a purpose: to control society and make a profit.

Black crime has no purpose other than a short term personal profit, with disregard to anyone who gets hurt in the process.

The proper way to filter information is:
1. Objective fact filter.
2. Subjective truth filter.

The liberal way to filter information is:
1. Subjective truth filter. If this filter finds any hint of non white performance falling behind white performance, then do not pass it to the objective fact filter. The information processing ends.
2. If no "racism" is found, objective fact filter.

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Monday, December 30, 2013 __ Level is 105.8

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

So... let's use some logic here.. the last peak has been universally and readily accepted as the height of the "greatest bubble in the history of the United States". Now we are at the same peak a few years later and somehow it is now called "the recovery"? This defies logic. If it was a bubble in 2007 then the same values in 2013 is still a damn bubble because wage growth has been virtually zero.

Sam1000 says

So... let's use some logic here.. the last peak has been universally and readily accepted as the height of the "greatest bubble in the history of the United States". Now we are at the same peak a few years later and somehow it is now called "the recovery"? This defies logic. If it was a bubble in 2007 then the same values in 2013 is still a damn bubble because wage growth has been virtually zero.

Its because THIS time it's DIFFERENT! All cash different.

The American dream just got bigger. Doesn't it happen every decade? What was a bubble 20 years ago would now be a crash. There is no hot air this time for anything to burst.

Sam1000 says

So... let's use some logic here.. the last peak has been universally and readily accepted as the height of the "greatest bubble in the history of the United States". Now we are at the same peak a few years later and somehow it is now called "the recovery"? This defies logic. If it was a bubble in 2007 then the same values in 2013 is still a damn bubble because wage growth has been virtually zero.

Ditto....

Brilliant personnel or business model. Overpaying for something that's overpriced.

Wonder if Phil Robertson eats pork, shellfish, crayfish,catfish,etc. as a Christian?

http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/0311.htm

"These you may eat of all that are in the water: whatever in the water has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers; that you may eat. But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you. They shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination. Whatever in the water does not have fins or scales; that shall be an abomination to you."

" And the swine, though it divides the hoof, having cloven hooves, yet does not chew the cud, is unclean to you:"

Wonder if his response would be: If I don't like it, fuck that part of the Bible & a 15year old?

Call it Crazy says

Sam1000 says

If it was a bubble in 2007 then the same values in 2013 is still a damn bubble because wage growth has been virtually zero.

New Renter says

Its because THIS time it's DIFFERENT! All cash different.

...and lower mortgage rates.....

Mortgages are for ASSHOLES!

CallCrazy......
Check out the Bay Area chart.... looks "bubbly" to me...

Strategist........
Looks cheap to me.

It feels just like the last bubble to me. Have we all already forgotten how it felt before the crash, with everyone screaming, buy, buy, buy now before it is too late? I can still remember the pressure to buy, the complete lack of real information in the media. I have an article I saved from the week before the bubble burst in a major local newspaper about why it's never been a better time to buy, and why you should do anything to "get in" and if you can't you will be left out in the cold...all statistics being backed by the National Real Estate Association.

Wow, a 5 year old could could have made 31% in the stock market.
How much did the bears make?

Call it Crazy says

Strategist says

Strategist........

Looks cheap to me.

Yep, we already know how responsible you are with money..... Go ask your wife for your allowance....

She said I don't deserve any.

bullshitmagnet says

The volume of all gold produced in any one year (worldwide) would be a cube approximately 14 feet on each side

12 million people are millionaires:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/10158420/A-record-breaking-number-of-millionaires-in-the-world.html

3000 tonnes / year production:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/20/gold-mine-output-idUSL5N0J44T720131120

leaves a measly 8 oz of mine production per millionaire.

I'm not particularly bearish on gold at these prices. i.e. DCA is good enough now.

Wish I'd been DCAing in the 1990s, sigh.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=qtG

gold vs. diesel

Call it Crazy says

Check out the Bay Area chart.... looks "bubbly" to me...

Thomas, are you in a time warp? We are about to start 2014.

bullshitmagnet says

Interesting (maybe useless facts): the total amount of gold ever produced is approximately the volume of a cube 82 feet on each side.

The total amount of platinum ever produced would fit into a cube approximately 20 feet on each side.

The volume of all gold produced in any one year (worldwide) would be a cube approximately 14 feet on each side.

That's the point.

HEY YOU says

Wonder if Phil Robertson eats pork, shellfish, crayfish,catfish,etc. as a Christian?

This just shows that you don't know the Bible. As Christians we are bound by the New Testament. Many things prohibited in the old testament that were changed/repealed in the New Testament. If he were claiming to Jewish (converted or otherwise) then you'd have a point, but he's claiming to be Christian.