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Tiered of getting overbid in all my offers
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2012 Jul 23, 2:56pm 50,199 views 130 comments
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freak80
2012 Aug 1, 6:44am
...or Canada. Maybe even Portland? (:
I've heard Portland has high housing costs too because of their draconian land-use laws.
Then again, relative to SF it's probably cheap.
hrhjuliet
2012 Aug 1, 6:50am
I've heard Portland has high housing costs too because of their draconian land-use laws.
Then again, relative to SF it's probably cheap.
I'm sure Portland is higher than Reno, but I don't drink, don't gamble and don't own a Rottweiler. (;
Portland made it to the top ten for overall happiness in the USA, and they have a lot of bike trials and a well attended ballet company, so I think my survival rate might be a little higher in Portland. (:
I've been to Portland. Not my thing. It rains A LOT there. The whole area was totally soggy and you could tell it probably stays that way. It was overcast the entire time we were there. As someone who really like the sun, that to me would get realllll old, real quick.
JodyChunder
2012 Aug 1, 8:24am
What about Northern Florida? No state tax and good weather
I spent a summer in Vernon in '82 hunting turkey. Miserable humidity.
Portland is where all the bikers used to congregate. Good beer.
Indianapolis is home to the best looking women.
Downtown Victorville is where Jody lives. Nuff said.
How do you go from paying $2100 a month in rent to willing to pay almost $700k for a place with an exterior that looks like a storage rental unit?!? I've heard of apartments being converted into condo's but a storage unit into a house...
Get out before the umbrella virus takes over and infects you completely and before you become one of the zombie mob that are trying tooth and nail to claw your way into a house (where fresh brains are waiting I guess). Forget about trying to predict where the prices are headed and when to buy. If the water stinks, don't drink, if prices are too high, don't buy a Sty!
There's nothing wrong with the PNW. I spent 3 years in Seattle and I think it's prettier than SF, although I concede that it's subjective.
It doesn't rain a large AMOUNT per se, although it is constant drizzle mostly. The place is absolutely gorgeous and you can't beat it in the summer.
There is definitely a better sense of community and the whole rat-race isn't as espoused.
Plus, you can grow lots of yams.
freak80
2012 Aug 1, 3:22pm
I've been to Portland. Not my thing. It rains A LOT there. The whole area was totally soggy and you could tell it probably stays that way. It was overcast the entire time we were there. As someone who really like the sun, that to me would get realllll old, real quick.
Try living where I live! ;-)
Our summers are nice though. And thanks to global warming, we didn't even have winter last year!
lostand confused
2012 Aug 1, 8:58pm
Portland is a nice place. Free trams in downtown. Good food. No sales tax. Perhsps living in Vancouver, WA is even better. No state income tax too!
Yes Portland is lovely. But one must learn to love the rain, cloud and lack of sunshine-save a very few months.
It doesn't rain a large AMOUNT per se, although it is constant drizzle mostly.
I lived up there almost ten years and never understand why people make this point. What's the difference? Isn't the constant, dark, drizzle worse on your mood? Your point is made well here, though.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/04/seattle-doesnt-get-that-much-rain/
Anyway, it rains there more days than almost anywhere else. I've ended up showing people this kind of data several times and used to carry printouts in a bag, because people were so set on thinking things like, "It rains in San Francisco almost as much as it does in Portland and Seattle."
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USWA0395
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USOR0275
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USCA0987
REpro
2012 Aug 2, 11:29am
Recently I made an offer on tiny condo down of south bay.
There were only two offers, mine 72K cash and from another investor offered 95K cash.
Comps were 69-78K. He won, but how smart is it???... 23K over. LOL
Peter P
2012 Aug 2, 12:32pm
Portland is a nice place. Free trams in downtown. Good food. No sales tax. Perhsps living in Vancouver, WA is even better. No state income tax too!
Yes Portland is lovely. But one must learn to love the rain, cloud and lack of sunshine-save a very few months.
I hate sunshine. But I don't like downpour either.
He won, but how smart is it???... 23K over. LOL
not very smart.. he "paid himself" for several years of income returns.
B.A.C.A.H.
2012 Aug 2, 3:25pm
There are some things, like arguments with the spouse or "Moore's Law" race to the bottom, even if you win, you lose.
REpro
2012 Aug 2, 3:40pm
not very smart.. he "paid himself" for several years of income returns
In this case, 4 years of net cash flow to the drain.
We call it panic syndrome.
REpro
2012 Aug 2, 4:04pm
What somebody paid or what is listed for doesn’t matter.
In business cash/cash return, net ROI or IRR is what stimulate purchase price. If one area cannot produce satisfy numbers, move to another area. This is why manufacturing was moved from US to China.
We call it panic syndrome.
yep! didnt do the numbers.. as your further comments on ROI.IRR states..
REpro
2012 Aug 2, 5:54pm
It’s better to submit 30 calculated offers (cost nothing), than take one shark bite wondering what a hell I just swallowed. IMO
If you can get out of the Bay Area, get out. All the sane people are leaving, which can only make this area worse. We can't, but if we could we'd be flying out tomorrow. That's my heart felt advice.
One should preach what he practices :) , otherwise people call you a hypocrite
All the best people seem to be moving to Portland. ):
More power to em'. All I know is that I've been to portland 3 times and its definitely not my favorite place. Its sort of boring, small, and the rain is relentless. It feels like one big wet sponge.
MAGA
2014 Jul 22, 5:53am
Foster City? Isn't that area built on land fill? Will all those overpriced houses fall when we have the next big quake?
Dan8267
2014 Jul 22, 8:19am
Tiered of getting overbid in all my offers
Think of it this way... Every time you are outbid, it's some fool preventing you from overpaying.
Heraclitusstudent
2014 Jul 22, 8:36am
Tiered of getting overbid in all my offers
Think of it this way... Every time you are outbid, it's some fool preventing you from overpaying.
... And you forcing a fool to pay more.
Thanks for the good work!
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I put $25,000 over the asking price for this one, still got overbid!!!
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Foster-City/679-Beach-Park-Blvd-94404/home/2041496
So out of sheer frustration, considering going for the new constructions (Fusion or 37 degrees north new Town homes in Sunnyvale). Any pros and cons for Fusion or 37 deg n?
I am totally frustrated and broken. Many months of open houses and offers and getting my a** kicked by some uber-frustrated buyers putting their offers way over asking price.
I know I should wait. But how long? When will my time come? If I wait and find out that houses will cost even more than what it is now, what then? This low inventory situation in bay area is killing me. Piece of garbage houses are selling for insane prices.
To make the matters worse my ***hole apartment complex (Lakeshore Landing, San Mateo, ***k you!) just increased my 2 bedroom piece of s*** condo to $2100 per month (with 1 year lease).
With $2100 rent, buying sure looks like a great option but I cannot overbid these other more desperate buyers. What's leftover of my sanity does NOT permit to put more than $25,000 over CMA (or fair market value).
Sorry for the rant. I am out of my wit. I have lost 1 whole year of my weekends house hunting and still in a crappy apt paying insane rent.