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Animals would eat you if they evolved the teeth and stomach and cutleries for it.

Very true. There are no laws in the Animal Kingdom against slaughtering humans.

I wouldn’t oppose vat grown meat though, as long as it tastes good.

I agree. But we should never ban meat.

Some open space preserve people actually approached us for support. They said they wanted to force vertical development. No support from me!

Once we allow/encourage vertical development and fix the urban environment there will be less sprawl as a result. Banning development will not work.

I should have told them that I would support building condos in Yosemite.

The answer is genetically engineered, cloned meats for consumption.

*hides*

(someone did say we need to stir up more controversy around here, so I also propose the above be powered by breeder nuclear reactors)

Peter P,

2 rules.

Never invite vegans for dinner. If vegans show up uninvited, toss them a garden salad and a lemon juice vinagrette.

Spinach quiches for the rest.

I don't support factory farming though. They're unnecessarily cruel and polluting in my opinion, and the meat doesn't taste very good.

The answer is genetically engineered, cloned meats for consumption.

No need to hide.

I would support that. If cloned meat (cheap Kobe beef?) is available, there will be less demand on slaughtering animals. Problem solved.

Robert Coté Says:

Yeah, brutal and even Maria is piling on.

I'm picturing Maria piling it on... not a bad one.

Never invite vegans for dinner. If vegans show up uninvited, toss them a garden salad and a lemon juice vinagrette.

Perhaps a pasta with pine nuts, arugula and cherry tomato.

I can guarantee that it will happen, eventually. It's a question of time. In the future, people will pay a huge premium for "natural" food, whereas engineered food will provide mass sustenance. It will happen for pure economic reasons. Less pollution, greater safety, higher efficiency, and more reliability of product quality. There will probably be some zealots who will try to bomb the factories, but that's always the case with anything that works well.

newsfreak Says:

Or should the tombstone be wrapped in perigraniteel?

I think the tombstone in the graphic is granite already!

But back to the original post, technically, isn't the bubble still alive and well? The deflating/collapsing period of the bubble is still part of the bubble phenomenon, just the downside of it.

HARM-X Industries Ltd :

Cool. Thanks for the graphics.

CNBC women are the penultimate generation in the Bene Gesserit breeding program.

One of the questions unresolved from the BlogII party was; if cats had opposable thumbs would we be pets, food or sport?

All three. Cats are amazingly smart and/or "evil". One of our cats has "human" eyes. Very cute, yet scary at times.

Peter P Says:
September 7th, 2006 at 3:30 pm

"Perhaps a pasta with pine nuts, arugula and cherry tomato."

If you want them to come back...

If you want them to come back…

All right, I will scare them away by throwing in some crab meat.

Sprawl is good. Sprawl encourages biodiversity. Sprawl protects indeveloped spaces from the machinations of planners.

Perhaps. This is why we should let the market decide.

I think cats have made incredible strides in making us their pet, food (can opener), and sport even without opposable thumbs.

CNBC women are the penultimate generation in the Bene Gesserit breeding program.

Somehow, thinking of them as scifi witches doesn't make them any less attractive in my mind.

Peter P Says:

"All right, I will scare them away by throwing in some crab meat."

Perhaps a sea urchin dressing. You could claim you thought sea urchins were a vegetable.

You could claim you thought sea urchins were a vegetable.

You mean it is not? 8-O

SP,

The spice agony? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_Gesserit

I think the movement to force vegetarianism upon humanity is real. If we do not act we will soon face a crisis.

We are seriously being distracted from real issues like terrorism, diseases, and overpopulation.

Someone should start a Human First initiative.

long time lurker here ... first time posting.

thought I'll share what I read in Rob Black's blog: http://robblack.typepad.com/robblack/

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Real Estate . . . These days there are more ``home for sale'' signs then than at any other point in time since 1993. Most gauges are confirming that the housing market has hit the brakes and may be in a tailspin. Existing-home sales dropped a more-than-expected in July while new-home sales fell 22 percent from the same month last year. And construction spending fell the most in five years. Higher mortgage rates and affordability concerns have been the bogeymen in the current U.S. housing decline but little attention has been paid to the adjustable-rate mortgages. Those with adjustable-rate loans -- almost a quarter of all U.S. mortgages -- will face re-adjustments soon. That means higher monthly outlays. Some 1 million people may lose their homes when 60 percent of adjustable loans ratchet borrowing costs higher by the end of 2006. Those at greatest risk are typically credit-challenged, carry high-cost, sub-prime adjustable loans and are mostly black or Hispanic. For the record, these borrowers tend to be concentrated in all urban areas in California.

Home-price growth slowed during the second quarter from a year earlier in the sharpest three-month plunge on record since 1975 which indicates this year's housing slump is deepening. The quarterly slowdown came during the ``spring selling season,'' when about half of a year's home sales typically occur, suggesting the housing market may be slowing more rapidly than economists initially predicted.
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As a first course or appetizer? Ewwww. Not even with a solid grenache. I’m not even a fan of cheeses in the first salad but a heavy meat early on? No, humans should never be served before the red wine.

Hor D'oeuvres. :-D Just kidding.

Phoenix is coming undone.

I am truly worried about our future in the hands of those who think animals have more rights than humans.
How can we fight back?

Such people can be handled by "Stray Human Projects"; they can be caught, spayed/neutered, and released into the Kalahari or other wild area to live as nature intended.

(With apologies to the person who originally suggested this, in Another Place.)

The PETA people deserve just that. They make a mockery of themselves and discredit more reasonable efforts to improve animal quality of life via spay/neutering, shelters, humanely raising meats, and so on.

They should be locked in a cage with 20 or so rabid minxes.

Just to clarify. I am not entirely against vegetarianism as a religion. However, it should not be involuntarily forced upon others. Sadly, I see this as a trend.

Animal welfare should only be an after-thought at least until we archieve Utopia.

That’s a very, very common Science Fiction subtheme.

Culturing meat is already possible. It is just not economically feasible yet.

Do you suppose this guy still works at Channel 6?

Huh?

Isn’t that a little high? Even in the US most colleges don’t charge in the millions.

don't? won't?

*unlurks*

I've got my issues with the PETA. THere are these Toronto Vegetarian Association ads that offer to send you a free vegetarian cookbook if you email / write an address. But what you get is not a cookbook. Nooo it's a booklet with graphic articles / picture of animal cruelty, with maybe a few random vegetarian recipes at the back. No useful articles on how to make the switch, or what protein sources can replace the essential amino acids in meat (most vegetable protein sources will not give you ALL the amino acids you need).

Said mailout also contained a CD. I'm sure, with PETA docu-footage on more graphic stuff which I did not view. I guess their idea is to SHOCK you into vegetarianism and maybe some activism. Well, all good and fine, I guess, if you're into animals. I wrote them a pissed off email because I didn't like the deceptive nature of their ad and their tactics. but of course they never bothered to write back.

My primary interest in going somewhat vegetarian was to have a smaller ecological footprint and to be healthier (less fat intake). Ironically, I think PETA / Toronto Vegetarian Association set me back a few years.

Oh, and more U.S. housing bubble-trouble articles appeared in the Toronto newspapers this week. With more disclaimers that "it could never happen here". Yes yes, Toronto housing prices rose faster than inflation for the last five years, but not as fast as in Bubblicious California. Of course, the authors didn't bother to realize that housing prices do not have to shoot to the sky to fall -- they can just as easily fall from a not-very-high-plateau because it is already very difficult for median young family to buy a house, or even a townhouse, unless they move far out to the 'burbs.

*relurks*

My primary interest in going somewhat vegetarian was to have a smaller ecological footprint and to be healthier (less fat intake).

You can begin by eating more veggies. I love veggies myself, although I do not like lettuce.

I guess their idea is to SHOCK you into vegetarianism and maybe some activism.

I doubt I can be shocked into vegetarianism by any graphic video.

Many private schools are already at about $160,000 for four years.

And that is before sushi.

HARM Says:
My apologies if someone has already posted this, but… wow!
Scroll down to “Reported Attacked!” link.

http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/
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I would have whacked that chick if she hit me with the water bottle.

I would have slapped her so hard on the left hand side of her face, she'd still be fricken' seeing stars.

Plus, my big-ass palm print would be permanently emlazoned on the side of her face in crimson, glowing red infamy!

I would have taken that dude to the ground, choked him out, then slapped another big paw print on his chubby cheeks like that chick.

Then...then...

I woke up.

Yawn...what a nightmare!

I dreampt of this weird ass housing bubble in California and all sorts of weird sh-t. Thank god I'm back in Kansas Toto. There's no place like home!

The detiny of food is to be eaten.

Perhaps I should make this into a T-shirt.

I would have taken that dude to the ground, choked him out, then slapped another big paw print on his chubby cheeks like that chick.

Yea, maybe I'm just made of essentially dumbass, midwestern, redneck, farmtown boy stuff, but I'd have twisted that chump's head off like a rusty bottle top out of an old pop machine.

(One too many Ikura & Sake tonite. Pardon.)

Ikura & Sake

Which came into existence first: sake or ikura?

What we have here in Bend is a massive Bid/Ask spread.

And people berate me for uttering the word "sticky".

Yea, maybe I’m just made of essentially dumbass, midwestern, redneck, farmtown boy stuff....

I think that only effects the 'how' you'd take them to the ground, not whether you'd do it at all. I think most rational people would do something to neutralize the threat. Personally, I think it's more efficient to step aside and help them find their way into a nearby section of wall or pavement. Seems easier, less liability, repeat as needed.

Oh, and "Vegetables aren't food. Vegetables are what food eats."