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Why I hate shower/tub combo


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2006 Sep 11, 7:54am   10,671 views  155 comments

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Most people take showers. What is the point of installing a shower/tub combo when the tub is rarely used? I wonder.

I think we should build more shower stalls in the future. There should be no need for more than one tub (or shower/tub combo) in the house.

What do you hate in your house? Why? How can we build better houses in the future?

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28   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 9:18am  

-Prime
+Sauce

29   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 9:24am  

I WISH I had a shower-tub combo. The little house I’m renting just has a shower stall even though there would be room in the bathroom for a shower/tub combo (there’s a big empty space next to the sink).

I would prefer a shower stall over a shower/tub combo.

30   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 9:25am  

Big utility sinks are generally useful for washing large objects, laundry, filling large buckets, etc. They're also good for washing dirty gardening hands.

31   skibum   2006 Sep 11, 10:14am  

DinOR Says:

I have a buddy that worked at FiberFab that made the gel coated shells and he told me there were so many moving parts it’s like they were made to fail! In a hotel room? Hubba hubba! (Just not in MY house please).

As long as the tub is heart-shaped and in a hotel in Reno, Vegas, or Niagara Falls. Seriously though, I really hate the pre-molded shower-tub combos where the entire stall/shower/bath is one huge piece of fiberglass or plastic or whatever.

32   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 10:20am  

I really hate the pre-molded shower-tub combos where the entire stall/shower/bath is one huge piece of fiberglass or plastic or whatever.

Who doesn't?

I would not mind a pre-molded one made of Corian though. Still, I prefer marble/granite/sandstone/etc.

33   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 10:22am  

I never use the hotel tub. As I result, I prefer hotels with separate shower stalls. However, they usually cost too much outside Las Vegas. :(

34   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 10:32am  

we wash dogs and cats in them

Can you teach me how to wash a cat without getting scratched?

My youngest just had a climbing class at Mission Cliffs. Have any of you done that? It’s really fun. If I ever lose my mind and buy a McMansion I am going to make sure my masterbath has a two story climbing wall in it.

Climbing can be dangerous. I tried riding a horse once and almost got killed. Perhaps I am just not the outdoor type.

35   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 10:38am  

I like all stone bathrooms and saunas

All stone saunas? Will the stone crack because of the heat/humidity?

Perhaps I should become a bathroom designer. Perhaps in the future we will all live in bathrooms with sleeping alcoves.

On the other hand, it would be nice to have a bathroom that can be cleaned by hosing it down with water.

36   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 10:43am  

Personally, I prefer a shower stall with a glass screen - a shower in a tub is dangerous - I once slipped and knocked my chest against the edge of the tub.

Exactly.

Best option of course, is a G-shaped stall - no doors, simple, ventilated and effective.

With glass? I will probably bump into it. How about a shower stall so large that doors are not required.

Don’t really understand the bathroom fetish in McMansions though.

I don't think many McMansions have really nice bathrooms though. People still prefer nice kitchens. Many "luxury" bathrooms only have marble on one or two walls.

37   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 10:45am  

We never use our frozen peas for eating…they are for black eyes and sprains and such!

They are not too bad in a puree. Fresh peas are of course much better.

I have an unwavering belief that all men pee in the shower

Huh? 8-O Another reason for his-and-her baths.

38   skibum   2006 Sep 11, 10:47am  

LILLL Says:

I have an unwavering belief that all men pee in the shower…so no way am I sitting in that thing…no matter how much I clean it!(As I am the only female in this house.)
Eeewww!

Pee is sterile (generally speaking), so technically there's nothing grody about it other than the fact that it's pee.

39   skibum   2006 Sep 11, 10:49am  

SF Woman,
Why do you wash your cat? We've never washed ours, and he's outdoors. Cats are immaculately clean creatures as it is and they clean themselves. However, I've always wondered - their tongues must be filthy. Maybe we just need to rinse their tongues once in a while.

40   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:04am  

Why do you wash your cat? We’ve never washed ours, and he’s outdoors.

I washed my cat before and she hated me for a week. The cat hospital was able to do it nicely though. Strange.

41   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:05am  

Do you notice how no man has proclaimed he DOESNT pee in the shower?

I proclaim that I do not pee in the shower.

42   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:09am  

SP,

Yeah, G shaped stalls are nice. Not very space efficient though.

I guess the shower-bathtub combinations are a lowest common denominator solution that covers the builder's backs - the lowest common denominator being 3 years. That's why we have water temperature regulators so water is never hot enough in winter. That's why the bathtubs are extremely uncomfortable for anyone over 10 years old and hazardous as showers. And the problem is, once the builders design spaces for these awkward tub-shower combos, nothing else really fit into them because they're too narrow for showers and too short for soaking tubs.

I do squeegee. But Pleasanton has really hard water, so the glass still look like it's caked in baking soda. I guess I should use something acidic for them rather than the alkolid cleaning stuff though.

43   HARM   2006 Sep 11, 11:10am  

Peeing in the shower is efficiency in action: kill two birds with one stone. Also saves a couple minutes when you're in a big hurry to get ready --very helpful.

LILLL, embrace it, don't fight it. Btw, can I stay over/shower at your place sometime? :P

44   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:12am  

Peeing in the shower is efficiency in action: kill two birds with one stone.

How about a shower/tub/urinal/sink combo?

Not design advice.

45   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:13am  

Nothing wrong with peeing in shower while water is running (though this statement does not mean I endorse it or does it myself), the salt and uric acid is pretty benign compared to the bathtub cleansers and athlete's foot fungus issues - those things would keep me from bathing in a hotel room.

46   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:15am  

Isn't there a urinal sink combo on the market already? In northern China, you'll sometimes find squat toilets built over showers.

47   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:16am  

(now how's that for disturbing?)

48   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:18am  

Isn’t there a urinal sink combo on the market already? In northern China, you’ll sometimes find squat toilets built over showers.

I only wet my mouth with water during the day when I travel in China. Public bathrooms are never nice but they are downright horrible in China.

49   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:19am  

I am going to have nightmares tonight.

50   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:22am  

I'm lucky to have a strong bladder and an easy to block out memory. Chinese public toilets are generally things of nightmares. If you get desperate, try a McDonald's. They're your best bet for a reasonable clean flush toilet.

(Oh no! Some memory of that hostel toilet in Kangding is coming back!)

51   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:24am  

"It’d be more like showering in a toilet than peeing in the shower."

Yes, it's not a design innovation I plan to ever make, no matter how cramp my apartment gets.

52   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:26am  

Chinese public toilets are generally things of nightmares.

Which country has the best public bathrooms? Surprisingly, Japan has squat-toilets as well. At least in the US, seat covers are usually provided.

53   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:27am  

My apartment in Hell’s Kitchen had the tub in the kitchen; with the addition of a hinged hollow-core door to cover the tub, you had a instant dining room table.

Huh?

54   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:31am  

Hate: Vauted ceilings.

How about coffered ceiling? I kinda want a Las Vegas fake sky at home. :-P

Bathroom doors that hit the toilet

I hate that too. Door should operate freely even with the person sitting on the toilet.

55   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:36am  

Squat toilets are quite sanitary, as long as they are used properly. The main problem with rural Chinese toilets is that they don't flush or ventilate. (I actually like ventilated compost toilets found in national parks and isolated rest stops, they're very eco-friendly. The Chinese really need to discover the wonders of ventilated composting toilets).

56   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:40am  

Squat toilets are quite sanitary, as long as they are used properly.

My wife hates them. Ventilation is essential.

57   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:42am  

Christmas light plug-in under the eaves with a switch in the garage.

I always worry about Christmas lights catching fire though.

58   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:43am  

Well. To go really OT, should say I've just tasted my first pawpaws. They're not quite as good as I imagined. They're kind of like a slightly insipid banana with overtones of pineapple

59   Peter P   2006 Sep 11, 11:44am  

To go really OT, should say I’ve just tasted my first pawpaws.

Food is never OT. :)

60   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:45am  

Don't get me wrong, I don't like squat toilets either. I've been forced to use them on a couple situations of extreme duress, but they're not experiences I care to relive.

61   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:49am  

Most people are not trained to squat for long periods of time. Plus the newbies would fear soiling themselves.

62   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 11:53am  

I would like to live in a glass house located in a really scenic, isolated lot. Barring that, I like designs that incorporate private walled balconies into bathroom/bedroom areas, to bring more natural light into private rooms.

63   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 12:01pm  

Yeah, a kitchen pantry is much more useful than cabinets. I would like a kitchen with a pantry for storage, plus a rack to pots and cooking utensils and a stainless steel shelf for for plates. That provides much better visibility and utility.

64   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 12:05pm  

That's the idiocy of the American McMansion phenomena. They want all this land and all this interior space, but they put it all together really poorly and you end up with no privacy from neighbors and no privacy from other people in the house. Most McMansions have their curtains/blinds drawn all the time, which makes you wonder why they got windows in the first place.

65   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 12:12pm  

One thing that builders never offer are industrial strength kitchen ventilators that vent out. That's incredibly asinine because you really can't cook much unless you have decent ventilators. Without a good ventilator, a kitchen is just a place to chop vegetables and boil water.

66   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 12:13pm  

His and her closets are a very good idea. Much more important to family tranquility than his and her bathrooms.

67   astrid   2006 Sep 11, 12:21pm  

alien,

Sorry to be so nosy, but I'm curious where your mentor lives and how much he spent. I agree, it is a really nice way to live.

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