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fuck em...if there were no gluttons in the world we would have no use for the word...
Indiana Jones says
i know many Boomers can't see past their shoelaces, but can you at least have some compassion for the generations coming after you who are facing obstacles you never knew existed?
we spent it.
Or the generations that preceded you. Somehow the Boomers, the most selfish, self-absorbed, self-centered generation in American history, has always thought, and indeed was described in the late 60's or early 70's, as the brightest and best generation that ever lived. Where are the results?
wishful thinking...
the oldster vote is revered...
The Millennials are more numerous than boomers, and by they will progressively take over.
sounds like the original sin foisted on everyone by the libbys...
The Millennials, a poor and in-debt for no fault of their own generation,
why would you take the word of a racist??
Did boomers invent the selfie?
Yep. Ask Dr. Laura Schlessenger.
After reading this thread, I can only recommend one thing:
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Then every boomer who received an inheritance passed on it, right? hahahahahaha
Our beef with many (not all) of you guys is that you took much of what was handed to you, then didn't pass it along - not even as much as you took out.
Then every boomer who received an inheritance passed on it, right? hahahahahaha
Then Boomers shouldn't be exploiting the Millennials like they are.
Then every boomer who received an inheritance passed on it, right? hahahahahaha
Then Boomers shouldn't be exploiting the Millennials like they are.
I should point out that many Boomer Con's favorite phrase "Nobody owes you nothing" doesn't imply they won't take anything offered to them and then some with no regard about reciprocating.
"In the words of my generation, Up Yours!"
As you say, Dan, we write the history.
As you say, Dan, we write the history.
Precisely. Every generation has the option of leaving the world a better or a worse place, of helping or exploiting the next generation. However, the two generations after them are the ones who write their legacy.
The Boomers have lived most of their lives already and their decisions have been made. The younger generations can now judge the Boomers accurately and completely on their actions. And quite frankly, it's not looking good. The price of selfishness is an eternity of ridicule by the later generations.
I was naked for a day; you will be naked for eternity.
I'm concern with sustainability and social justice neither of which are served by screwing over one generation for another.
Adult people always care for children and elderly. Always have. Always will. And yeah... that's work and efforts.
It is just because everyone goes through these different roles.
It doesn't make sense to argue it is social injustice, or a generation screwing an other.
Adult people always care for children and elderly. Always have. Always will. And yeah... that's work and efforts.
Straw Man argument. There's a difference between adult children taking care of their elderly parents and the Boomer generation financially exploiting the Millennials even though the Boomers have far more wealth than the Millennials. To morally equate them is disingenuous.
After reading this thread, I can only recommend one thing:
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On another note, after all the taxes I paid into the system they damn better pay me back with interest.
Put on your big boy pants, man up, and make your own successes!
Can't, you guys already pawned the family jewels. Even sold the tools from the garage.
Oh well, inventors of the unpaid internship, we'll just rebuild it as soon as you guys retire and get out of the damn way.
Put on your big boy XXL Depends, because if you think we're wiping your asses for $9/hr, good luck.
Oh, and that $20T Debt? Guess how we're getting out of it once we take over? Better stock up on dog food right now. Inflation is a bitch for fixed income, but a blessing for debtors.
This thread demonstrates that Boomers are starting to fear the generation war that they've been fermenting for decades.
There's a difference between adult children taking care of their elderly parents and the Boomer generation financially exploiting the Millennials even though the Boomers have far more wealth than the Millennials.
See, you are focusing on where the money is.
Not on who does the work, who receives the service.
You would first have to pull the lazy Gen Xers and Gen Yers away from their iGadgets long enough to start the war...
I fail to see how 60 hours of ESPN and Fox and another 12 hours of El Rushbo's Golden Microphone is any better...
Ain't never going to happen... The last thing we fear are you slackers...
The next generations don't need to do anything.
The boomers numbers will start playing against them, for once. Too many of them trying to feed on the same (lazy) gen x gen y.
For that price to be paid, we would have to give a fuck....
The younger generations can now judge the Boomers accurately and completely on their actions. And quite frankly, it's not looking good. The price of selfishness is an eternity of ridicule by the later generations.
wasn't us...that happened when the libbys legalized gay marriage...
Put on your big boy pants, man up, and make your own successes!
Can't, you guys already pawned the family jewels.
don't you mean Crown Ossetra?
and what's fixed income got to do with it?
Thank god for the caymans!
Better stock up on dog food right now. Inflation is a bitch for fixed income, but a blessing for debtors.
See, you are focusing on where the money is.
Not on who does the work, who receives the service.
I'm focusing on what is sustainable and just.
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" The Federal Reserve Has Declared the Winner in the Generational Financial War (January 26, 2015)
"The policy of safeguarding Boomer benefits with asset bubbles will lead to the destruction of the unprepared, the unwary and those who foolishly trusted our "leadership" and central bank to tell them the truth.
Though it is exceedingly politically incorrect to mention it publicly, a financial war between the generations is being fought in the U.S. and every other developed nation that has promised social welfare benefits to its burgeoning class of retirees.
The war is being fought on multiple fronts: political promises, interest rates, housing, central bank policies and official rates of inflation, to name a few of the top battlefields.
Though no one in power will state this publicly, the Federal Reserve has already declared the winner of the generational war: the Baby Boomers won and Gen-X and Gen-Y lost. Fed policies insure the Boomers will benefit from financial bubbles inflated by the Fed, and the following generations will lose--not just this year or next year, but for decades to come.
Any nation that offers its retirees social welfare benefits (pensions and healthcare) faces a no-win demographic crunch: the number of retiring people entering the class of beneficiaries far exceeds the number of additional full-time jobs being created. In other words, it's not just a matter of having enough young people to support the rapidly expanding cohort of retirees--there must be enough good-paying full-time jobs for the young people so they can pay high taxes to fund the retirees' benefits and support their own consumption/saving.
Let's cover the fundamentals of the mismatch between what was promised to retiring Baby Boomers and the generations that must support their retirement.
The fact is that the number of full-time jobs paying more than minimum wage has stagnated while the number of retirees qualifying for pensions and healthcare benefits has soared. In the good old days of expansion, there were roughly 10 full-time workers for each retiree drawing social benefits (Social Security and Medicare).
The ratio fell to 5-to-1, then to 3-to-1, and is now 2-to-1: that is not a ratio that is sustainable without crushing tax burdens on the young.
Estimates are even worse in other developed nations. In Europe, the ratio of retirees over 65 to those between 20 and 64 will soon reach 50%--and that's of the population, not of people with full-time jobs paying taxes to fund social welfare programs. (source: Foreign Affairs, July/August 2014, page 130)
All government social welfare programs are pay-as-you-go. The Trust Funds touted in propaganda are illusions, backed by nothing but the promise to sell more Treasury debt.
The Problem with Pay-As-You-Go Social Programs: They're Ponzi Schemes (November 5, 2013)
While the costs of defined-benefit programs such as Social Security can be extrapolated relatively accurately, the program's revenues cannot be predicted because they come from wages. If recession slashes millions of jobs, or earned income declines as wage increases slip below the rate of inflation (which is precisely what's been happening for the past 6 years), revenues won't meet wildly optimistic forecasts that presume high, sustained wage and employment growth forever.
No official forecast of tax revenues supporting Social Security and Medicare ever factor in a recession, much less a decade or two of declining wages. If the forecasts were more realistic, the programs would be revealed as insolvent.
That is of course a political impossibility, so delusional forecasts are issued and accepted as "real" lest the unpalatable reality be recognized.
Defined-benefit programs such as Social Security have costs that can be estimated with some accuracy, but programs such as Medicare are open-ended: their costs cannot be predicted. Every attempt to control the ballooning costs of healthcare benefits for the retired lowers the rate of growth for a year or two, and then the costs soar once again as the number of beneficiaries and costs of delivering ever-expanding services both explode higher.
As a result of these fundamentals, the Powers That Be face a dilemma: they cannot reveal the insolvency of these huge social welfare programs, even though the insolvency is guaranteed by demographic and global-economic dynamics.
There are a very limited number of financial solutions to this dilemma.
1. Taxes can be raised. This is problematic for several reasons. One is that taxes on the self-employed and upper-middle class are already 40%-50%, as I have outlined many times. Two, the number of "wealthy" people (households earning $250,000 or more) is tiny compared to the 100+ million army of social welfare program beneficiaries.
Higher taxes and junk fees are already suppressing consumption. Every dollar of additional tax paid is a dollar that won't be spent by the household that earned the dollar.
Tax the rich is politically popular but in practical terms, it doesn't generate the revenues that are expected, for the simple reasons that A) the number of wealthy is relatively tiny and B) the super-wealthy either move their capital elsewhere or they buy political favor-tax breaks.
2. Slash benefits and limit the total Medicare costs per beneficiary. Since young people tend not to vote and older people tend to vote, this is a political non-starter, at least until 90+% of young people start voting.
3. Raise interest rates to 10+% to encourage saving and to generate a healthy return on pension funds and retirement accounts. The net result of 10% yields is the immediate collapse of the Fed-fueled asset bubbles in housing, bonds and stocks. All these currently bubblicious assets would implode.
This is also a non-starter, because the financial/political Aristocracy and owners of these assets would be devastated by the implosion of the bubbles.
4. Inflate bubbles in housing, stocks and bonds to boost the value of pension funds, retirement accounts, and government tax revenues from capital gains by pushing interest rates to zero and extending credit to speculators, financiers and marginally qualified borrowers.
The Federal Reserve has clearly chosen #4 as the only politically palatable solution. While asset bubbles create the politically positive illusion that pension funds can pay the benefits promised, retirement accounts are swelling in value and tax revenues are rising thanks to higher property taxes and capital gains taxes, this legerdemain comes with a heavy price:
Younger generations are either priced out of assets such as housing or they are forced to buy assets at inflated prices-- prices that will inevitably implode as these stupendous speculative bubbles pop. When the bubbles pop, the young people who bought into the illusion that asset bubbles can expand forever will be underwater, and not for a year or two but for a generation.
The system rewards silence and complicity. Everyone bellying up to the social welfare trough is implicitly encouraged to support the Status Quo, lest their share of the swag be diminished. That the trough will collapse is not important to each beneficiary; what's important is that their share of the swag is not diminished, even if cuts are the only sustainable way to save the programs from collapse.
I am a Baby Boomer, and in 4 short years I will be entitled to belly up to the trough and extract hundreds of thousands of dollars in open-ended benefits (at least for Medicare). I have long proposed that the Boomers collectively fall on our swords and accept the draconian cuts necessary to align our benefits with the cold reality of declining wages and employment.
The equally cold reality is that the current "solution" impoverishes the younger generations and generates a tsunami of risk that will wash away the Status Quo--including the benefits of the Boomers.
Right now, we as a nation are greedily collecting the financial fish flopping around as the coming tsunami pulls the water out of the bay and briefly exposes the sea floor. The Federal Reserve and our self-serving political "leadership" is reassuring us the water has left for good and we are free to collect the free fish forever.
This is a blatant lie. The demographic and economic tsunami is gathering force over the horizon, and the policy of safeguarding Boomer benefits with asset bubbles will lead to the destruction of the unprepared, the unwary and those who foolishly trusted our "leadership" and central bank to tell them the truth."
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