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2015 Mar 28, 5:41pm   1,835 views  4 comments

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"The co-pilot suspected of deliberately crashing an airliner, killing 150 people, had told his girlfriend he was planning a spectacular gesture so "everyone will know my name", a German daily said on Saturday.
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German newspaper Welt am Sonntag quoted a senior investigator as saying the 27-year-old "was treated by several neurologists and psychiatrists", adding that a number of medications had been found in his Duesseldorf apartment."

"German investigators found antidepressants in the apartment of Germanwings co-pilot...."

IOW, he was on a combination of psychotropic drugs that had probably never been tested together, and at least one of them had probably a black box warning of suicidality. They may also have had warnings about operating heavy machinery, but the prescribers did not notify the airline, and neither did the patient. The most common category of anti-depressants is SSRIs, which have (according to the manufacturers' own cherry picked studies) ~10% efficacy vs placebo, i.e. 90% chance they're useless or worse considering 50% risk of toxicity.

A silly thread on PatNet suggested the crash resulted from the ability to lock the door of the cockpit. It would be more accurate to suggest that airline procedures should not have left one person alone in the cockpit, particularly one who was mentally unfit to fly.

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1   anonymous   2015 Mar 28, 5:46pm  

Just a drop in the pond of endless tragedy brought to you by the drugging down of the worlds citizenry

Thanks, PhRMA!

3   curious2   2015 Mar 29, 9:07pm  

Co-pilot ‘planned to marry pregnant girlfriend’, claims German report

I wonder if he bought insurance and named the girlfriend and child as beneficiaries, and, if so, will they collect?

4   curious2   2015 Jun 12, 11:08am  

"Before he plunged a plane into the French Alps, Germanwings Flight 9525 co-pilot Andreas Lubitz feared he was going blind and went to see dozens of doctors, a French prosecutor said Thursday.

In the month leading up to the crash, Lubitz consulted doctors seven times, including one visit to a generalist, three visits to a psychiatrist and three visits to a nose, ear and throat specialist, Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin told reporters.
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Lubitz, 27, told one of his doctors that he had consulted numerous eye doctors and numerous neurologists, Robin said. And during the five years leading up to the crash, he consulted a total of 41 physicians, Robin said.

Lubitz, according to the prosecutor, feared he was losing his sight and suffered from severe depression involving "psychosis accompanied by vision problems," according to CNN affiliate BFMTV.

He indicated to those who were close to him that "life no longer had any meaning considering the loss of his eyesight," Robin said.

And he had complained to doctors that he saw only "30 to 35 percent of objects in dark," saw light flashes and couldn't sleep because of his vision problems, according to the prosecutor.

In March, a European government official who'd been briefed on the investigation told CNN that after Lubitz complained about vision problems, an eye doctor diagnosed him with a psychosomatic disorder and gave him an "unfit for work" note.

German police searching Lubitz's apartment after the crash found prescription drugs to treat depression and anxiety. Robin said he has ordered toxicology tests on the co-pilot's remains and is still awaiting results."

I have observed a disturbing trend in many commercial "news" outlets to blame German privacy laws. They seem to want rationalizations to take away what tiny fig leaves of privacy and dignity humans might have left. That isn't necessarily conspiratorial, only the sort of non-conspiracy that Noam Chomsky has described many times, where these institutions and the people running them pursue their own self-interest, and cultural norms form around them. One might call it a manifestation of "the single standard," i.e. different rules for those in power vs everyone else. From that POV, the problem is that the pilot's employer, his corporate master, didn't have enough personal information about him, and should have had a right to know everything about him.

The real problem is that those drugs don't work. Even the manufacturers' own cherry-picked studies show 90% failure. They bury those numbers in a haystack of advertising, but if you look at the actual prescribing information, it's right there: 10% of patients "benefit" vs placebo, the other 90% don't, while more than 40% experience toxicity. And, again, those are cherry picked numbers, sometimes from "rescue countries" where the manufacturer paid somebody to rescue a drug that had proven totally ineffective. This is part of why I call Obamneycare a cult. It's a new religion, and people want to believe. They want to be part of a community of faith. They don't want to believe that they are going to die someday no matter how much they spend; they want to believe there are "no lifetime caps." Trying to tell an Obamanaut that most of the money goes to waste, fraud, and abuse is like trying to tell a Moron that the cult of Moroni doesn't need tax exemption or more donations. Instead, Obamneycare insists on infinite spending, which means infinite incentives to peddle whatever form of denial they can sell. With so much lucre available, the body count scarcely matters; the only question being how to conscript more people into the machine; as it was in the Viet Nam war, so it is with Obamneycare.

In fact, some of the symptoms Lubitz described sound like side effects of the Rx drugs he was taking, especially after his prescribed dose had been recently increased. (The WaPo, aka the Voice of Obamneycare, said he had "upped" his dose, but due to the Rx mandate he would not even be allowed to do that without permission from a paid PhRMA salesman.) This was not an issue of privacy at all: he told dozens of people about his problems. The issue was, nearly all of those people were paid to put him on more pills, so the more problems he told them about, the more pills he got. Even those closest to him were part of a culture sadly conditioned by that mentality.

Nobody seems to have told him that those pills don't work, and more likely make matters worse. Nobody seems to have told him he could have had a successful life in a different line of work, e.g. as a test pilot or a drone pilot or practically anything other than a commercial pilot. I wonder if he was even warned that many of those drugs double the risk of suicidality, especially in young people; he was only in his 20s.

I mourn the loss of Robin Williams, and I can't help suspecting the Germanwings passengers and crew might have lived if the co-pilot had got better advice.

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