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Heraclitusstudent says

as long as they believe it. Which I don't.

And what does that establish?

Some bible thumpers (Mormon looking) trying to spread there bs came up to me the other day as I was taking wife and kids to see the Jungle Book. They asked me if I wanted to hear about the lords message and I told him "hell no", my salad bar Christian in name only wife was pissed.

P N Dr Lo R says

Heraclitusstudent says

as long as they believe it. Which I don't.

And what does that establish?

That what I wrote about it was not based on believing it?

P N Dr Lo R says

Well we won--we were right, they were wrong.

"we won therefore God was on our side".
"The country grew to a powerful nation from almost nothing, therefore God is on our side."

That's the ultimate self-righteousness and arrogance that is so common in the US.

P N Dr Lo R says

Heraclitusstudent says

The Germans probably also prayed God to help them.

Well we won--we were right, they were wrong.

We lost in Vietnam. God switched sides?

Deuteronomy 20:10-15 – When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

Deuteronomy 20:10-15 – When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

Obviously, we didn't follow gods orders in Vietnam.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 - "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

We aren't even following gOD's nice benevolent sweet laws at home, with regards to this. America is lost, and gOD will punish us until we return to his holy laws and biblical marriage!

"Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!"
Psalm 137:9

Can we count Baghdad as Babylon?

FatherPurityLovesYOU says

"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

Unless she is a slave: Leviticus 19
“20: If a man has sex with a slave girl whose freedom has never been purchased but who is committed to become another man’s wife, he must pay full compensation to her master. But since she is not a free woman, neither the man nor the woman will be put to death. 21: The man, however, must bring a ram as a guilt offering and present it to the Lord at the entrance of the Tabernacle.d 22: The priest will then purify hime before the Lord with the ram of the guilt offering, and the man’s sin will be forgiven."

Heraclitusstudent says

FatherPurityLovesYOU says

"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

Unless she is a slave: Leviticus 19

“20: If a man has sex with a slave girl whose freedom has never been purchased but who is committed to become another man’s wife, he must pay full compensation to her master. But since she is not a free woman, neither the man nor the woman will be put to death. 21: The man, however, must bring a ram as a guilt offering and present it to the Lord at the entrance of the Tabernacle.d 22: The priest will then purify hime before the Lord with the ram of the guilt offering, and the man’s sin will be forgiven."

What kind of God would write such stupid things. A very stupid God.

Strategist says

We lost in Vietnam. God switched sides?

No, we deserved to loose.

Heraclitusstudent says

The man, however, must bring a ram as a guilt offering and present it to the Lord at the entrance of the Tabernacle.d 22: The priest will then purify hime before the Lord with the ram of the guilt offering, and the man’s sin will be forgiven.

Guess who gets to eat the meat?

thunderlips11 says

Heraclitusstudent says

The man, however, must bring a ram as a guilt offering and present it to the Lord at the entrance of the Tabernacle.d 22: The priest will then purify hime before the Lord with the ram of the guilt offering, and the man’s sin will be forgiven.

Guess who gets to eat the meat?

The guy who wrote the rule?

The only good god is a dead god.

rpanic says

The only good god is a dead god.

Allah comes to mind.

Running out of steam? Is this the best you can do for the evening? It was getting really enjoyable! Can't you squeeze out an even 200? If nothing else it proves that atheism is certainly labor intensive.

You do realize that many things cannot be proven a posteriori? things like psychology, economics, global warming. In order for something to be proven by a posteriori the scientific method is used through a controlled experiment. It is inductive and a priori is deductive.

Anything outside of the physical universe is obviously not going to settled using a posterori. You are rejecting this out of habit, so what else is new.

No Tard Boy this is not a poll. It is simply logic, something you are not even in the same zip code with.

The basic premise of the 1st way is that when something moves it caused to move from an exterior source. Rattle that around in your thick skull for a while and get back with me when you have oriented yourself to which way is up.

Listen up shit for brains. Your article states:

"Vacuum energy is an underlying background energy that exists in space throughout the entire Universe. "

"Still, the exact effect of such fleeting bits of energy is difficult to quantify."

1 it is part of the universe. I.E. something is/was exterior to the universe animating it.

2 They are uncertain about it's nature. You on the other hand are too stupid to be uncertain.

indigenous says

1 it is part of the universe. I.E. something is/was exterior to the universe animating it.

Not true. BOTH time and space start with the big bang, so there is no before, and there is no place beforehand.

Dan8267 says

th.

Indigenous can't give up his appeal to authority even when his authority figure is a well-known moron who thinks masturbation is worse than rape.

And the Wogster depends on some obscure anomaly...

Why Is There Something Instead of Nothing?
www.youtube.com/embed/ynWKQcjznQU

"There may have been no before" "There may be more than one universe"

"The universe may have no purpose" Agreed.

P N Dr Lo R says

an even 200? Atheism is labor intensive.

176 clocked out at 11:11 p.m. PDT

178 clocked in at 7:09 a.m., hit the ground running

179 not too far behind at 7:47 a,m.

Already at 183 by 8:28, could hit 200 before noon.

P N Dr Lo R says

If nothing else it proves that atheism is certainly labor intensive.

Like always, empirical evidence contradicts the conclusions arrived at with your "logic".

Dan8267 says

Like always, empirical evidence contradicts the conclusions arrived at with your "logic".

Just like always the mutts, fail to distinguish between inductive & deductive...

Dan8267 says

Why Is There Something Instead of Nothing?

This video is disappointingly lame.
1 - Yes space is not nothing.
2 - Quantum mechanics is not nothing either. It is part of the universe and cannot be invoked to explain it, otherwise the next question would be "Why are there quantum mechanics dimensions instead of nothing". "why is there such a thing as energy instead of nothing". It doesn't even start to address the problem.
3 - he doesn't have an answer just some speculations that are irrelevant because of the previous points.

Dan8267 says

Maybe the question cannot be answer due to infinite regression, but until we have a proof it cannot be answered the smart money, based on history, would bet that it can and eventually will be answered.

What is very safe to say is that if it is answered, it won't be by physics.

Indeed physics have only one goal: to describe the universe. The laws of physics are just generic patterns that describe quantitatively the universe. Yes knowing these laws can explain and predict one part of the universe as a function of some other parts. However I think we can agree that describing an object is not the same as explaining the existence of this object.

And since physics is the only scientific tool that applies to the universe as a whole, it follows that the existence of the universe will always remain a mystery to us.

P N Dr Lo R says

it proves that atheism is certainly labor intensive.

Whereas stupidity sure comes effortlessly.
To some more than others.

indigenous says

Just like always the mutts, fail to distinguish between inductive & deductive...

That's not a counter-argument. It's an admission that you are wrong but not man enough to own up to it.

Heraclitusstudent says

2 - Quantum mechanics is not nothing either. It is part of the universe and cannot be invoked to explain it, otherwise the next question would be "Why are there quantum mechanics dimensions instead of nothing". "why is there such a thing as energy instead of nothing". It doesn't even start to address the problem.

He said that the question "why" is not an appropriate question to ask.

In any case, this is very difficult matter to wrap one's mind around. My suggestion is to think a lot, really a lot, before writing.

Dan8267 says

That's not a counter-argument. It's an admission that you are wrong but not man enough to own up to it.

Sure it is, here you are trying to apply the inductive method to something that does't exist. An oxymoron...

indigenous says

Just like always the mutts, fail to distinguish between inductive & deductive...

You're so smart. Give us an example of deductive reasoning outside mathematics.

Praxelogy is all deductive/a priori reasoning.

indigenous says

Praxelogy is all deductive/a priori reasoning.

Give us a specific example of "praxelogy" reasoning.

Heraclitusstudent says

Give us a specific example of "praxelogy" reasoning.

Man acts, this is self evident, and irrefutable

From this you can deduce that man acts purposefully.

indigenous says

Man acts

What kind of actions are you referring to? Be specific.

indigenous says

From this you can deduce that man acts purposefully.

Seriously?
How?

You guys respond to indiginous' posts. Again and again. Why?

It makes me laugh when one insists on deductive reasoning.
To make deductive reasoning, you need to have (1) logical rules to apply to general situations (logical implication), or (2) a well defined set possible of alternatives (a logical OR ) so you could generalize that something is true in all cases.
(1) doesn't exist in the real world: the only general rules that exist are generalized from known cases through induction . This is the case even for the laws of physics. i.e. it's all induction .
(2) doesn't exist either because in any real world situation it's always possible to imagine more cases that could happen.

So here we go. I hope indiginous will not bring up deductive reasoning again.

Heraclitusstudent says

It makes me laugh

all these atheists trying to convince themselves God doesn't exist. They made it to 201 today and haven't settled anything.