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Heraclitusstudent
2016 Sep 1, 2:44pm
The Republican establishment is terrified of Trump winning the election. Even if he just resigns before day 1 it would devastate the GOP. Actually going through with the job would destroy the GOP. The GOP establishment's only exit plan would be to jump ship onto the Democratic Party and let the Republican Party be a losing party for the religious base only. This scenario is very plausible if Hillary Clinton wins the election.
The problem for republicans is assuming Trump loses, he is not going away.
The guy is still there. His ideas are still there. His voters are still there.
They may even endup with congressmen aligned with Trump.
It's like a globalist nightmare from which they can't awake.
Rew
2016 Sep 1, 2:50pm
The problem for republicans is ...
Not a problem for Republicans. That's a problem for America (ie. all of us)! Trump will get 60+ million people to vote for him. The nation has to address the real root cause of the scapegoat hate here: economic inequality, decline of opportunity, sagging education.
In terms of Corpratism, Endless Warfare, and Mass Immigration, it's more like.
Trump----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hillary-Bush
Trump is no hawk, but I sure don't see him as an answer to deeper relations with foreign powers and avoiding conflict. Do you? He also is going to 'bomb their families' remember?
Heraclitusstudent
2016 Sep 1, 2:57pm
The nation has to address the real root cause of the scapegoat hate here: economic inequality, decline of opportunity, sagging education.
... free trade, immigration,...
Heraclitusstudent
2016 Sep 1, 3:18pm
I sure don't see him as an answer to deeper relations with foreign powers and avoiding conflict. Do you?
Let me just say I value modesty, dignity, truth and knowledge. People like me don't like people like Trump.
Unfortunately we are in a system that has been hijacked by corporations, rent seekers/globalists.
So we are left to choose between the 2.
turtledove
2016 Sep 1, 3:35pm
Is Trump to the right or the left of Hillary? You have some Hillary folks who say he's way to the left of Hillary and others who say he's way to the right of Hillary. Which is it? Or is it a circle? Well, we do know he was to the south of Hillary with the floods....
turtledove
2016 Sep 1, 3:51pm
From what I see, it's not a Left/Right designation for him. It's more about "issues", sometimes he leans "left" and sometimes he leans "right". He seems to be more about what's good for AMERICANS and not a political party.
I just find it funny. Some say, "he's so to the left of Hillary" he's the opposite of what republicans should want.... Then others say "he's so to the right of Hillary," all of you republicans are racist fascists....
That's a problem for America (ie. all of us)!
BULLSHIT. that's the only fucking argument lefties ever try - "the greater good" as if you fucking morons actually have a clue what's best for everyone.
Rew
2016 Sep 1, 9:17pm
Unfortunately we are in a system that has been hijacked by corporations, rent seekers/globalists.
Citizens united, money is speech. We will have to crowd fund our way out of it, and it won't be easy considering how little of it the common man has compared to just one of the 1-5%ers or a PAC.
Trump is running on nothing which says he is above monied influence, but his mouth. That is not his campaign. He has taken NO STANCE on campaign finance reform. Make America Great Again PAC. "I take the money?" ... "No?" ... oh yes, yes you do. Not only that, you return political donations back into private returns in your businesses Mr. Trump. His finance machine is essentially outsourced to the RNC fund raising apparatus (kind of like how Trump Stakes, Vodka, etc. are other peoples product re-branded.).
Would you enter into a business deal with Trump? I sure as hell wouldn't.
... free trade, immigration,...
Barriers to trade = strong tension points between nations
Immigration = you deport people to other countries, making them deal with a new humanitarian issue. Tensions.
Additionally, these are devastating economic losses to incur, regardless of if you do believe they lead to longer term gains. The patient may not survive the treatment. A massive increase in government jobs with ICE, along with an unknown upgrade on border security. Hint : these things do not lead to the production and sale of anything. If anything, they remove customers with money from the economy.
What you really want to ensure is that Americans have a living wage, not hotel service, meat packing, and migrant farm jobs. Respectfully, the solution Trump has isn't going to deliver, and what it very likely will do is lead toward economic hardship and war (I'm not talking housing bust and ant-terrorist action here, I'm talking major economic strife and nation states with opposing armies fighting).
BULLSHIT. that's the only fucking argument lefties ever try - "the greater good" as if you fucking morons actually have a clue what's best for everyone.
Oh, but you do?
Trump has been talking a big talk about the merit required to immigrate. Let's amp it up and take it further. Merit to stay: citizens required to pass the citizenship test and undergo 'extreme vetting' for compatible belief. Sure, we will lose lower educated and low English language proficiency people that really do believe in American values. But we would cure ourselves of much of the right wing. Radicals wouldn't survive it. I'd happily have a few questions to remove the grosser perversions of SJW/Feminism/and BLM too. Bring it!
Rew
2016 Sep 1, 9:38pm
I just find it funny. Some say, "he's so to the left of Hillary" he's the opposite of what republicans should want....
He hasn't voted enough, has flipped key wedge positions, and hasn't expressed enough clearly to really say for sure say. Heavy authoritarian and slightly left of typical Repub is how is measured right now. I think, like many, he is more left on some positions than people know.
This is close-ish ...
neplusultra57
2016 Sep 2, 6:05am
He has taken NO STANCE on campaign finance reform. Make America Great Again PAC. "I take the money?" ... "No?" ... oh yes, yes you do.
THAT'S A LIBERAL LIE. GLORIOUS FUHRER WOULD NEVER TAKE CITIZEN'S UNITED MONEY. STOP LYING!!
Trump is no hawk, but I sure don't see him as an answer to deeper relations with foreign powers and avoiding conflict.
Are "deeper relations" completely necessary, particularly with Middle East and Pakistan?
citizens required to pass the citizenship test
You actually think that someone out could come up with a test that could vet out Islamic extremists?
undergo 'extreme vetting' for compatible belief
America is home to lot of beliefs many of which are not in agreement but still able to coexist.
Those who support sharia laws simply can't. Proof? Every other place Islamic immigration has occurred en masse, like Europe. Still waiting for you to acknowledge the elephant in the room.
Why should born citizens be required to "take an exam" in the spirit of being fair to Muslims?
Bellingham Bill
2016 Sep 3, 12:38pm
See the Dalai Lama? That's were I test on the political compass.
(the beauty of Georgism is that it gives me an overall framework of philosophical and pragmatic support for being a left-libertarian aka geolibertarian)
Merit to stay: citizens required to pass the citizenship test and undergo 'extreme vetting' for compatible belie
You're actually making his argument that leftists know what's best for other people. Good job
Bellingham Bill
2016 Sep 3, 12:43pm
as if you fucking morons actually have a clue what's best for everyone.
What's progressivism ever done for us?
Oh, how about WEEKENDS for a start.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/progressive-platform-of-1912/
Merit to stay: citizens required to pass the citizenship test and undergo 'extreme vetting' for compatible belief.
You never explained why Saudi Arabia and other gulf countries couldn't take on more refugees once the US meets their quota.
Instead you shifted to a "merit to stay" such that people who have been here for generations have to take an exam to determine right to stay in the US just to be fair to Muslim outsiders, whose inability to assimilate is on full display across the world
Bellingham Bill
2016 Sep 3, 12:48pm
that leftists know what's best for other people.
All government is coercion yes. It wouldn't be government otherwise.
The left/right divide is the current framing, but it can also be framed as more change or rolling back what changes we've accomplished these past 100+ years of liberalism.
I vote for more, not the rollbacks the conservatives want.
Conservatives of course find nothing much to like with all this change. That's what makes them conservative.
Another attribute of conservativism is being wrong all the time on everything, other than the odd stopped-clock occurrences
Tenpoundbass
2016 Sep 3, 1:09pm
At this point any chart a Liberal can produce that shows people on the polar oposite of the spectrum, the more people will vote for Trump.
government is coercion yes. It wouldn't be government otherwise
First, why are you quoting me; someone else said that.
Secondly, are you government?
All government is coercion yes. It wouldn't be government otherwise.
So you support developing a mandatory test for born citizens to determine their right to stay in an effort to be fair to Muslims who might want to emigrate to this country. Please comment on the topic.
Muslims have proven their capacity to assimilate in Europe. What do you have to say about that? Won't be holding my breath waiting for a response.
Some situations require a progressive approach and some require a more conservative approach.
That Democratic Party shill Bill Maher is as anti-Muslim as it gets. Is he suddenly a conservative now?
What's progressivism ever done for us?
Oh, how about WEEKENDS for a start.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/progressive-platform-of-1912/
oh really? i'm sure WEEKENDS had nothing to do with religion over the course of history. check. also, the progressive era does not equal the modern day bleeding heart liberal crowd.
i can't wait for you to post a really irrelevant FRED graph as a response.
FNWGMOBDVZXDNW
2016 Sep 4, 6:10am
However many Muslim immigrants we take, it's going to be so low that it's a drop in the bucket. Whether or not Saudi Arabia takes people doesn't have much to do with it. It's basically just us deciding how much we want to do to help solve a humanitarian crisis that we are helping to perpetuate, and how much we want to say fuck you, not our problem.
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2016 Sep 4, 6:15am
I have no problem moving them into your neighborhood....go for it.
It's basically just us deciding how much we want to do to help solve a humanitarian crisis that we are helping to perpetuate, and how much we want to say fuck you, not our problem.
MisdemeanorRebel
2016 Sep 4, 10:20am
More Bush Dubya Administration Endorsements for Corporate Clinton:
Former President George W. Bush’s Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy is the latest high-ranking Republican to announce his support for Hillary Clinton’s White House bid.
James Glassman, who is also the founding director of the George W. Bush Institute at the former president’s library in Dallas, told MSNBC Monday evening that Clinton is “by far the superior candidate.â€
“She has the experience. She’s got the character. She has the values,†Glassman said. “She is the kind of candidate I support and that, as I say, millions of republicans are supporting.â€
Glassman joins a number of former Bush officials in backing Clinton. Former deputy secretary of state Richard Armitage and Lezlee Westine, a former aide to President Bush, have announced their support, as has former Bush State Dept. and NSC official Kori Schake. Sally Bradshaw, who managed two gubernatorial campaigns for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, has also said she will vote for Clinton if the presidential race in her home state “is close.†Other Bush administration officials, such as former CIA and NSA director Michael Hayden, have been loudly critical of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump but have stopped short of announcing plans to support the former secretary of state.
Republican Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.), who has already announced plans to retire at the end of his term, is the only elected member of the GOP to date to officially announce support for Clinton. Many other Capitol Hill Republicans, among them Sens. Susan Collins and Mark Kirk, have said they will not vote for Trump.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/james-glassman-hillary-clinton-endorsement-227289#ixzz4JJC7tSHy
Clinton's Administration is acceptable because it won't be far - if not identical - to Dubya's policies.
Would you enter into a business deal with Trump? I sure as hell wouldn't
If I were you I also wouldn't deal with trump either. It's a lot like being a lamb in a lions den.
By chance, do you or have you ever owned a business, any business?
MisdemeanorRebel
2016 Sep 4, 8:15pm
It's like a globalist nightmare from which they can't awake.
The President of France said the French will have to tolerate terrorism. He was loudly booed in fine French fashion by a crowd of mostly his own supporters.
And in Mecklenburg today, Merkel came in third on her home turf.
People are sick of snobby elites doing what they want to do for their multinational corporate pals. More and more see the virtue signaling over Trans Bathrooms and "Islamophobia" and "Helping every single Migrant" as a facade behind a great laissez-faire power grab.
I have a video of the President of the Bundesrepublik complaining that the People of Europe, not the Leadership of Europe, is the problem. Merkel is again campaigning for the rest of Europe to clean up after her unilateral declaration that "Refugees Welcome".
We had Brexit. Last year UK Labour tossed out Neoliberals; the only non-neoliberal candidate became Labour Leader (for all his faults). In the US, Trump smashed the Country Club Republicans and a Jewish Socialist from a tiny rural state gave a world-reknowned figure, the wife of a popular former President, a run for her money in what she thought would be a Effortless Coronation.
Trump is going to win. The Elites must get some burned fingers, it's the only way they'll moderate. They won't do it if they keep winning elections.
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For Hillary.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/30/heres-the-growing-list-of-big-name-republicans-supporting-hillary-clinton/
Henry Paulson... Secretary of Treasury and former Goldman Sachs Chief who engineered the Bank Bailouts, popularized CDOs when at Goldman Sachs which were key to fueling the crisis, approved an onslaught of new fees on Account Holders to help banks raise cash.
Carlos Gutierrez... drafted CAFTA, went straight from CEO of Kellog to Department of Commerce in W's Admin, Helped establish a Pro-Unlimited Immigration SuperPAC that spends most of it's efforts trying to defeat Immigration Reform candidates, total Corporate Globalist. His PAC: https://www.togetherforamerica.com/leaders/ endorses Hillary. Take a look at the members, also all Corporate Globalists and associated Cronies.
Michael Bloomberg... Former Tyrant of New York, who would put a CCTV in every bedroom and write fees on everybody 24-7, Big Brother Style. Militant pro-immigrant, anti-civil liberties, anti 2nd Amendment, anti Free Speech.
Meg Whitman... HP's latest underachieving CEO... anti-environment, anti-gay, but pro-immigrant. Had an illegal housekeeper/nanny for 10 years. Supported Romney in 2008, when he dropped out was McCain's Campaign Co-Chair. Failed to beat Jerry Brown for Governor of CA.
Some interesting lesser lights also, like Shirin Tahir-Kheli, a "Women's Rights" advisor to Condi Rice, who is also on the board of the Carnegie Corporation and a militant por-immigrant Pakistani.
CIA Officials, National Security Officials, USAID (CIA) Officials - Establishment "US should run the world and intervene everywhere" types to a man.
And of course, Robert Kagan and Max Boot, noted extremist Neocon Hyperinterventionists. Kagan's wife, Victoria Nuland, engineered the Ukraine Coup and will probably be appointed to higher office by Killer Klinton the Witch of War.
They're with her!
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