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rpanic01 says

People like Bill Maher are just as scary as people on the far right that he is talking about that don't see how flawed Trump is.

Baseless accusations are transparent attempts at poisoning the well. One could make the baseless statement "People like whomever are scary extremists" about any person. Making such a statement does not make it true. You need to back that shit up with some evidence that a person is proposing crazy and dangerous ideas. You can't do that against Bill Maher because, regardless of how much you dislike the things he values (liberty, truth before politics, equality of opportunity, accountability), he backs up his ideas with actual evidence and reasoning. So by definition, that's not crazy talk.

I would have to say there is no greater authority on vulgar and tacky than Bill Maher.

You can't argue with someone who makes their living with it.

Ceffer says

I would have to say there is no greater authority on vulgar and tacky than Bill Maher.

Another example of a poisoning the well fallacy. Only fools fall for this. How foolish do you think the PatNet audience is?

Trumpligula practices his slobbering Grannie kisses in the mirror that he will shower on Putin after he wins the election.

Ceffer says

Et tu, Trumpligula?

Good one.

Ceffer says

Now imagine if her opponent was someone who
- tortured people
- killed innocent people
- labeled African Americans as "super predators"
- slut shames a child rape victim
- sold out the middle class
- supported a massive domestic spying program that is entirely illegal
- obstructed justice multiple times including in investigations of herself

Shit, that drag queen looks great in contrast.

They are both turd sandwiches. Vote Jill Stein. She meets your criteria of having a cliterous, and she meets my criteria of having ethics, a brain, and compassion.

Dan8267 says

Bill Maher because, regardless of how much you dislike the things he values (liberty, truth before politics, equality of opportunity, accountability),

If that was true he wouldn't be ignoring everything about Hillary he should be horrified by our choice, but he isn't. Nobody should be giving anyone a pass, the well is poisoned

Dan8267 says

Another example of a poisoning the well fallacy. Only fools fall for this. How foolish do you think the PatNet audience is?

Heh, Heh!

Why bother poisoning a well that's already poisoned?

rpanic01 says

If that was true he wouldn't be ignoring everything about Hillary he should be horrified by our choice, but he isn't. Nobody should be giving anyone a pass, the well is poisoned

Translation: Maher thinks that Hillary is the lesser of the two evils. I think that Trump is the lesser of the two evils. Therefore Maher is evil.

Stupid logic.

Bill Maher strongly preferred Sanders over Hillary. He hardly has given her a pass. Even though I think that a Trump presidency would be the lesser of the two evils in the long run, I don't make bullshit straw man arguments against those who think Hillary's the lesser evil.

Bill Maher would also strongly support Jill Stein as president, but knows she can't get elected as a third party candidate under America's stupid electoral laws.

Put simply, you are trying to make an ad hominem attack against a person simply because that person isn't in 100% agreement with you. This is lame. You should attack the arguments of your opponents. You are not doing that. And that is why you are lame.

Tampajoe says

OK Logan--

Let me try to open your mind. Can you consider the possibility that money has been flowing up to the top 0.1% for the last 30+ years as shown by the wealth disparity charts? And that this wealth concentration is what's causing interest rates to go lower and lower as there is more and more money sitting around looking for investments?

Logan, what's your response to this?

SubOink says

Can you consider the possibility that money has been flowing up to the top 0.1

Middle Class shrunk because more people are making 100K

and homeowners and the U.S. has more net wealth excluding Debt both federal and household than all the GDP of the counties together tied and then some

What....

0.01% have a lot $$$ they hoard and middle is strong, educated class are kicking ass

Our women kicks ass

This will never fit into the liberal left wing who have cried about America since 1790

I will bring 100,000 boxes of tissues for all your tears

All the liberals on this site, if your lives was half as bad as you cry about you all would have left to Nordic countries years ago

rpanic01 says

Dan8267 says

Bill Maher because, regardless of how much you dislike the things he values (liberty, truth before politics, equality of opportunity, accountability),

If that was true he wouldn't be ignoring everything about Hillary he should be horrified by our choice, but he isn't. Nobody should be giving anyone a pass, the well is poisoned

You are correct on this, but Maher is simply a frightened cuck at this point since the regressive leftist hyenas and SJWs almost axed him after he made politically incorrect statements about islam. They came for his head and almost got him but he was able to wind out of the stranglehold and is treading lightly while parroting the leftists dystopian narrative ever since. He may get a few brownie points for this but it won't save him from the pack next time he slips up.

Maybe that is where you should be

Maybe this country is too hard..

I get it...

Peddling Fiction

You're opinion is clearly not biased in any way or based on hysterical emotional reaction.

Logan-

Nice that you use household income to hide the fact that it is now taking two earners to make slightly more than what 1 earner used to make. Why don't you index that household income to hours worked to remove the effect of women working at a much higher rate now vs. 1970? Or make an adjustment for the child care costs that households now have to pay vs. 1970 when they didn't?

What are households going to do now? There isn't anyone left to get a job and boost income unless we legalize polygamy.

Tampajoe says

now taking two earners to make slightly

And fyi--please point to 1 post where I've said my life was bad.

Stop with the nonsense. It just shows you cannot engage in an adult discussion, but must resort to childlike insults.

And right on cue--Logan posts Ironman's favorite picture. Very mature.

Peddling Fiction TATU

So let's discuss it then.

What is wrong with my analysis? Are there not more two income families in 2016 vs. 1970? Does that not skew the household income data?

How am I assuming that high school drop outs are primary wage earners?

Let's stick to my questions above. Is it true that there are more 2 income households now vs. 1970? Wouldn't that skew the household income data?

Edit--And by the way, I'm not complaining at all.

Peddling fiction

From people who would never attached their real names and faces to them

keep on peddling fiction

radical left and radical right are only different in their lack of capacity to understand non ideological economics

So, I take it that you don't want to have an adult discussion then?

Tampajoe says

Let's stick to my questions above. Is it true that there are more 2 income households now vs. 1970? Wouldn't that skew the household income data?

Pro-tip: It helps if you actually put some explanation of the graphs so people know what you think they're showing.

The first one is easily explained because it is a total and includes the 0.1%. So, of course it is going up. The problem is the distribution of income--not the total income.

The second graph I've already explained above. More 2 income households.

Not sure what you think the third graph means w.r.t our discussion.

This country doesn't beg... this country works, you have 1 problem group more than others...

Focus on that because the middle is strong ....

That's a lot of blabber that doesn't address any of my points. Are you capable of actually having a discussion?

Tampajoe says

That's a lot of blabber that doesn't address any of my points. Are you capable of actually having a discussion?

Put your real name first and a picture

All of you....

I dare you I double dare you to not hide behind those fakes names and cute Duck photos and Avenger pictures

Because none of you would ever say the things you say with your real names and pictures on here

Because it's $#)(_)#_($_)(

The age of Anti American Troll is coming to an end... and the rise of data miners will crush what is left of the radical left and right wing

This country will kick ass and our young will kick ass

All these old people crying all the time on the internet with fake photos and fake names...

Whisper in the wind... this country will be #1 always

End this thread until the next recession/recovery cycle ....

You lost this one.... you have many years to adjust your take on this country now

I think anyone that reads any of your threads is the ultimate loser.

Logan Mohtashami says

I think anyone that reads any of your threads is the ultimate loser.

coming from people who talk about Depression with Duck photos and Iron Man photos I take it as a compliment

This is America....not Europe,it's not Japan....

But end this thread so in a few years when the collapse doesn't happen ... then I can nail the final stake into the coffin of the extreme left wing and right wing thinkers in this group

Data miners will save the day.

Data miners are the biggest value-add going in the economy today!

Where would we be without the data miners!

My last statement on this thread until the next recession/recovery cycle starts

Claims, LEI, employment, retail sales, industrial production, income all go positive in an upward slope

You all will be wrong about this country and your children and their children will know that one man call you all out on it!

#USA

You've ended this thread like 10 times now. Please follow through.

Tell them to post their tax returns...the data is in their tax returns...

Logan Mohtashami says

Put your real name first and a picture

All of you....

I dare you I double dare you to not hide behind those fakes names and cute Duck photos and Avenger pictures

errc says

Data miners will save the day.

Data miners are the biggest value-add going in the economy today!

Where would we be without the data miners!

His head is big enough already.

rpanic01 says

People like Bill Maher are just as scary as people on the far right that he is talking about that don't see how flawed Trump is.

Trump is an Aryan Supremacist. But Maher is a eugenicist, not quite the evil of Trump, but similar as you see on page 3 of this article: http://www.talkmarkets.com/contributor/gary-anderson/blog/conspiracy-self-driving-cars-and-culling-the-human-population?post=70583&uid=4798

Logan,

Just curious, how do you buy health insurance and what are your plan specifics?

You all hide behind your penis. Post your penis as I have done, I dare you...you're all hiding behind your Levis and plastic pants.

It's not your fault you're all assholes and complete dumbshits. You were born that way. I am beautiful and angular. Buy a tarp and cover up your hideousness.

Bad economy? Look at the demographics below. Africa needs to fuck more. More fucking, more bastards, more ditch-diggers, more funsies and $$$s

Palm Springs. Rosie Palmer...1 more person with rising income. Boom.

Demografix left wing. People. America's great. La'losers...all of you. no Deflation