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Ironman says

Do you believe there is currently 11% more Dem voters in the electorate?

I recall showing you some evidence that the gap had shrunk to 5% or something like that. I believe that the polls are not rigged. Based on that assumption, from all of these polls (a shitload of them) I believe that the gap in likely voters is represented more by these poll than by whatever the source was we looked at months ago.

We are about to find out if the polling is accurate. Why are you afraid to go out on a limb and state just how big you think Trump will win? Do you think that Trump will out-perform the polls by 11%? That would put him up 8% or so in the election tomorrow. Is that how you think it will play out? Why don't you try to quantify things a little instead of just crying foul?

neplusultra57 says

Dude, instead of just circling back and starting over with your bullshit why don't you just cut to the part where you say the word "projecting" and run away. What is accomplished by an impeachment that didn't alter Clinton's power? It's for the feelz that are so important to right-wingers....we know.

WTF Dude, impeachment demonstrates that Clinton was willing to commit perjury and obstruct justice. Not something you want in the guy/gal running the country.

He also demonstrated that he was willing to do this to cover up something relatively trivial which speaks volumes about his integrity. If he was willing to perjure himself for a trivial transgression what would he be willing to do about something that was high treason?

indigenous says

WTF Dude, impeachment demonstrates that Clinton was willing to commit perjury and obstruct justice. Not something you want in the guy/gal running the country.

He also demonstrated that he was willing to do this to cover up something relatively trivial which speaks volumes about his integrity. If he was willing to perjure himself for a trivial transgression what would he be willing to do about something that was high treason?

It's all ancient history. The only thing that counts is what happens tomorrow in the swing states. Trump needs an ace up his sleeve.

Strategist says

It's all ancient history. The only thing that counts is what happens tomorrow in the swing states. Trump needs an ace up his sleeve.

Hillary is going win which has been known for 4 years.

It does indicate what we are in for. So far we have seen the muzzled version of the Clintons, after the restraints are removed it will be a different story. WW3 is a genuine fear.

The odds to win declined for Trump in the last 2 days.

anonymous says

Bill looks so sad on that cover. Dump illary Bill and get a sweet young woman that will make you "happy".

Strategist says

The odds to win declined for Trump in the last 2 days.

She had a 70% chance of winning all year long.

As Logan has indicated in the past the demographics favor the Ds.

With that in mind, I don't think the Rs will win a presidential election for the foreseeable future.

The Libertarians would seem to have an opportunity in 4 or 8 years with a real candidate.

Is this a flying nun packing a Roscoe with gun turrets and ordnance to drop?

indigenous says

Hillary is going win

I hope you're right. But you're always wrong, so...

indigenous says

With that in mind, I don't think the Rs will win a presidential election for the foreseeable future.

I hope you're right, but, well, you know...

neplusultra57 says

I hope you're right. But you're always wrong, so...

I hope I am wrong, I want to live.

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

With that in mind, I don't think the Rs will win a presidential election for the foreseeable future.

I hope you're right, but, well, you know...

The mistake is to think linearly. The D's aren't going to have a lock in perpetuity. There will be a change my guess is that the Rs disappear completely. After 4 years or maybe 8 years when her Parkinson's is very advanced and she inevitably creates chaos, the dumb asses will realize what a mistake she was. The Libertarians may just replace the Rs.

indigenous says

The mistake is to think linearly. The D's aren't going to have a lock in perpetuity. There will be a change my guess is that the Rs disappear completely. After 4 years or maybe 8 years when here Parkinson's is very advanced and she inevitably creates chaos, the dumb asses will realize what a mistake she was. The Libertarians may just replace the Rs.

My guess...the R's will move more to the center in the next few years. The religious right is screwed.

I always thought that Dutch bonnet had anti-radar potential.

Strategist says

My guess...the R's will move more to the center in the next few years. The religious right is screwed.

There are lots of Libertarians that are very religious.

After Cruz got shut down, I suspect that is already happening.

indigenous says

I want to live.

Relax. If you were worried you'd vote.

Strategist says

My guess...the R's will move more to the center in the next few years. The religious right is screwed.

I hope you're right, but you're half as....never mind.

indigenous says

The Libertarians may just replace the Rs.

They have to learn where Aleppo is and learn that Americans actually want government to do something.

neplusultra57 says

They have to learn where Aleppo is and learn that Americans actually want government to do something.

Bullshit nobody knew where Aleppo before some NBC reporter used to trick Johnson.

Not that support him because of his ignorance of libertarian principles.

But a real Libertarian a reincarnated Thomas Jefferson or George Washington or James Madison would put the Libertarians over the top.

neplusultra57 says

Strategist says

My guess...the R's will move more to the center in the next few years. The religious right is screwed.

I hope you're right,

I'm confident.

neplusultra57 says

but you're half as....never mind.

Go ahead, say it. It's a Patnet site.

They should combine "Leave It To Beaver" and "Post-Apocalyptic Flying Nun" and call it "Commando Flying Nun"!

indigenous says

Bullshit nobody knew where Aleppo before some NBC reporter used to trick Johnson.

Er, I've been to Aleppo.

Rashomon says

indigenous says

Bullshit nobody knew where Aleppo before some NBC reporter used to trick Johnson.

Er, I've been to Aleppo.

Like I said nobody knew where Aleppo was...

Yawn.
What you actually meant was that ignorant buffoons like you and Johnson didn't know where it was. The fact that the city has been front and center for years in the war in Syria obviously passed the two of you by.

Rashomon says

Yawn.

What you actually meant is that ignorant buffoons like you and Johnson didn't know where it was. The fact that the city has been front and center for years in the war in Syria obviously passed the two of you by.

Aleppo got on the map only recently. No one knew about it, no-one cared. I doubt if anyone even cares.
Aleppo sounds more like a vegetable than a city.

Strategist says

Aleppo got on the map only recently. No one knew about it, no-one cared. I doubt if anyone even cares.

Aleppo sounds more like a vegetable than a city.

No, it didn't. Just because you are equally ill-informed/uninterested in foreign affairs doesn't mean it has just appeared on the map. It has been central to what's been happening in Syria since the war began.

Rashomon says

Strategist says

Aleppo got on the map only recently. No one knew about it, no-one cared. I doubt if anyone even cares.


Aleppo sounds more like a vegetable than a city.

No, it didn't. Just because you are equally ill-informed/uninterested in foreign affairs doesn't mean it has just appeared on the map. It has been central to what's been happening in Syria since the war began.

Syria isn't that important to the world either. Just another violent and crazy Mid East country.

Strategist says

Syria isn't that important to the world either. Just another violent and crazy Mid East country.

That's your opinion. I'm sure plenty of others disagree. That doesn't negate the fact that Aleppo has been in the news for years and has been an important regional city for thousands of years. People should know where it is. The fact that you/they don't speaks more to your/their lack of knowledge than the importance of that city.

Rashomon says

Strategist says

Syria isn't that important to the world either. Just another violent and crazy Mid East country.

That's your opinion. I'm sure plenty of others disagree. That doesn't negate the fact that Aleppo has been in the news for years and has been an important regional city for thousands of years. People should know where it is. The fact that you/they don't speaks more to your/their lack of knowledge than the importance of that city.

Why should anyone care about Aleppo? What's so special about it?
If people don't care about Syria, why would they care about Aleppo, a Syrian city. I care more for where my next vacation will be at, and Aleppo is not on the list.

They called him Beaver because he was fucked in the head.

Strategist says

Why should anyone care about Aleppo? What's so special about it?

If people don't care about Syria, why would they care about Aleppo, a Syrian city. I care more for where my next vacation will be at, and Aleppo is not on the list.

The only Middle East countries I would consider visiting are UAE, Egypt and Israel. The rest of the Mid East is # 1 million on my bucket list. Honestly, if the whole crazy Mid East was swallowed up by the earth, I would buy everyone on Patnet a beer.

indigenous says

Bullshit nobody knew where Aleppo before some NBC reporter used to trick Johnson.

Cut twice; never measure.

neplusultra57 says

indigenous says

Bullshit nobody knew where Aleppo before some NBC reporter used to trick Johnson.

Cut twice; never measure.

What you talkin about Willis.

Daddy says Chelsea living high off the foundation for a decade is proof enough of Clinton corruption. AND her 6 figure wedding funded by qutarCash should garner some juicy state department favors.

I decided to read this thread backwards, from finish to start. About halfway done and it's so much fun!

Strategist says

Why should anyone care about Aleppo? What's so special about it?

If people don't care about Syria, why would they care about Aleppo, a Syrian city. I care more for where my next vacation will be at, and Aleppo is not on the list.

Er, there's a difference between caring and knowing.

Rashomon says

Strategist says

Why should anyone care about Aleppo? What's so special about it?


If people don't care about Syria, why would they care about Aleppo, a Syrian city. I care more for where my next vacation will be at, and Aleppo is not on the list.

Er, there's a difference between caring and knowing.

My point....no one knows nor cares about Aleppo. If i owned Aleppo, i would trade it for a car.

This latest use of the FBI circus to attack Clinton happened during the days over 20 million Americans voted
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But many more will vote on Tuesday. And let's face it.... The college votes are what matter. And that happens Tuesday. The fact is.... had Comey said nothing and it got out, it would have been much worse for them then just admitting that the emails existed and expediting the reclosure of the investigation. They were in a tough situation. Reopening the case had its risk to the early voters... But given how little they matter... I think they did the math and decided that it was better to lose out on some of the early voting in order to have her cleared by the time the real voting, the college voting, the voting that actually elects the President, happened.

So Jazz.... at no time has a president won the popular vote but lost the electoral college vote, thus losing the presidency? Are you saying that's never happened before?

Then you misunderstood my original post, because that was my point. You say that there's great gravity to her potential loss in the early voting due to Comeys announcement. I said, it doesn't really matter because the situation was resolved before Tuesday when the rest of the country, and more importantly, the college votes occur. And you said I was wrong. Now you say that I'm changing the subject. Seriously, no more wine for you! ;)

jazz music votes early says

accuse me of being drunk.

Because you said I changed the subject when that subject was the very point of my original post.... but I was just kidding about the drinking. Notice the wink-smiley face after The sentence. A commonly recognized symbol for kidding around.

turtledove says

So Jazz.... at no time has a president won the popular vote but lost the electoral college vote, thus losing the presidency? Are you saying that's never happened before?

The electoral college is based on the popular vote in each state. Each early vote counts as much as each vote on the 8th, so there is no'real vote'. Plus, if Clinton wins Florida, it is pretty much over. More than 2/3rds of the Florida vote is expected to be early. So if there were a 'real' vote, it would be the early vote.

That said, I agree with Obama that Comey is an honest person doing his best, but that he made a mistake going public. Note that reopening the investigation and going public are two different things. Like I said many times, they could filter through the bulk of those emails very quickly. So he could have realized quickly that there was probably nothing much there.

Strategist says

My point....no one knows nor cares about Aleppo. If i owned Aleppo, i would trade it for a car.

Then your point is sadly mistaken. A great many people know and care about what has happened to Aleppo and the people living there.

Tenpoundbass says

I think Hillary has peaked.

Lol, Hillary's early voting push may be all she gets.

If so, it shows how few people want her "out of prison."