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curious2 says

Islam says to kill you.

That's just freespeech man! You know how much pussy Islam let's you grab?
http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/03/08/dark_passages/

"If Christians or Jews want to point to violent parts of the Koran and suggest that those elements taint the whole religion, they open themselves to the obvious question: what about their own faiths?"

Rew says

That's just freespeech man!

It's hate speech and, in many Muslim countries, it's the law: they would literally kill you even for saying things that you take for granted here. In any country with a Christian or Jewish majority, you can criticize Christianity and Judaism to your heart's content, but Sharia makes blasphemy a capital offense; for example in Pakistan, Asia Bibi is currently on death row, awaiting her execution. (Of course, you don't care at all about her, except if you can grab her anatomy.) KSA law declares atheists terrorists, subject to execution, so beware of losing your head. (KSA bans churches too, because Sharia does not permit anything like the 1st Amendment.)

Rew says

You know how much pussy Islam let's you grab?

Perhaps that will be Democrats' 2020 campaign. The Ellison/Weiner 2020 ticket can feature in depth interviews on how to grab Huma. The convention can feature a detailed "confession" by Bill Clinton, and advice on how to grab more women in the Democrats' new Islamic regime. Finally they can quit denouncing Donald Trump and confess their envy.

Rew says

Turkey, Indonesia, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar

Edit: If I was in my early 20s, single again without family, I'd even go to KSA and Iran.

Thank you for listing those. Most of them do not even have democracy, which says something about the "Democrats." Most are among the 20 most miserable countries in the world. Indonesia is also worsening, due to KSA spreading Wahhabi Islam there. BTW, the happiest country is Denmark, which has a Christian majority and prohibits mosques. But go ahead, enjoy your Kuwaiti life, I promise not to follow you there.

"Ellison/Weiner 2020: make America Kuwait."

The Democratic Party needs to distance itself from these left-wing nuts.

Dan8267 says

The Democratic Party needs to distance itself from these left-wing nuts.

See any of those in halls of power recently? Anything close to the Tea Party movement and the anointed orange one?

I think they will hold center, or center left. Warren and Bernie are the most extreme in power there right now.

Democrats (including Sanders) are pushing Ellison (America's first Muslim Representative) for DNC Chair, on behalf of the Clintons' Saudi sponsors.

curious2 says

Thank you for listing those. Most of them do not even have democracy, which says something about the "Democrats."

I've lived in other countries in my life. I'd welcome the opportunity to do so again.

Saying I would live in a non-Democratic country is not a repudiation of my beliefs in Democracy, or the USA, ya weird-oh. I'd live in a lot of Asia, Africa, and South America too. To take my family probably the most exotic I'd get would be the UK or Australia.

I'm red blooded ex-US Navy full yank American, from a military family on my Dad's side, and teachers on my Mom's side. I'm mixed up catholic protestant. I put my flag out on most flag days too. No bibles in the bed stand and we love our birth control.

That said, I am flipping a big finger to your ethnic-centirc narrow minded America America chanting. :)

curious2 says

It's hate speech

By today's standards so much of what our presidents past, and what we as a nation have written and believed is. Historical context and current cultural practice matter.

#BrainCellLivesMatter

Rew says

narrow minded

Again, you can't credibly claim to oppose narrow-mindedness while supporting Islam. You come across as merely ignorant, because if you had read what it says, you'd know better. Also, if you could please tell me what is the ethnicity of Islam? It has afflicted Arabs the longest, but most Muslims today are probably Asian. Africans are suffering terribly too. You sound like someone who tries to spread the 1918 flu (FKA "Spanish flu") and accuses opponents of being biased against the Spanish.

Solution to the problem of "protesters" imprisoning drivers and attacking them.

www.youtube.com/embed/aLhWzMOccTg

www.youtube.com/embed/fDrzMGdYWZc

curious2 says

Again, you can't credibly claim to oppose narrow-mindedness while supporting Islam.

Aalam alaikum

Can be said about any religious extreme, your argument is Islam itself, as is practiced everywhere, is extreme. The truth is, you don't actually know that. You have been absorbed by the lies of the what you have exposed yourself to in the media and online.

Rew says

your argument is

based on evidence. Specifically, in most countries that have Muslim majorities, most Muslims demand Sharia, because Islam says to do that. Thousands of Americans have also been killed in the name of Islam, because Islam says to do that too. Your argument is based on ignorance.

Dan8267 says

Solution to the problem of "protesters" imprisoning drivers and attacking them.

I saw some intense security when I vacationed in Africa. Some straight up prime-evil lord of the flies shows of force.

curious2 says

based on evidence. Specifically, in most countries that have Muslim majorities, most Muslims demand Sharia, because Islam says to do that. Your argument is based on ignorance.

Yes, the 10-15 Muslims I interact with daily, at work, are all ready to slit my throat if I fall asleep in my office. Actually here in the office, we all code armed.
(PPSssst ... only about 20% of our Moooslims here are US citizens! The rest are on visas! I bet they blow up a bridge any day now.)

You are soooo right. I've never visited a predominantly muslim country, never been welcomed into their houses, attend service as a guest. Infact ... I was killed on site when they found out I was an American. (Or actually they were super surprised, loved me, because mostly all they dealt with predominantly were Brits.)

What are your dark evil personal experiences with Islam? Do tell. Or is it just wiki links and right wing internet news?

Read about Taqiyyeh, and watch some video of the 9/11 attacks. Or don't, since you apparently prefer ignorance, and are trapped in some bizarro left/right false frame in which (even more bizarrely) you imagine Islam to be "left" for purely partisan reasons. I would suggest serious sites for you, in case you were actually in the Navy, but I'm guessing you were nowhere near Naval intelligence and so you'd probably try to kick them off the web and have them beheaded for blasphemy.

curious2 says

I would suggest serious intel sites for you, in case you were actually in the Navy, but I'm guessing you were nowhere near Naval intelligence and so you'd probably try to kick them off the web and have them beheaded for blasphemy.

Islamic terrorism exists = true
All of Islam ready to kill me on site for being American = false

And I notice you appear to have zero personal experience listed here with Islam at all. You know what that means? Your ignorance is a hot bed to be taken advantage of. That's fertile ground for fear my friend.

Go see Islam as practiced in America. I dare you. Stick your hand in the box ...

www.youtube.com/embed/kJsYKhEV6o0

Rew says

I notice

You notice nothing, and presume too much. Unlike you, I try not to overshare personal information on the Internet.

Rew says

ex-US Navy full yank American, from a military family on my Dad's side, and teachers on my Mom's side. I'm mixed up catholic protestant. I put my flag out on most flag days too. No bibles in the bed stand and we love our birth control.

TMI.

I will say though that I've read all the Dune books and seen the movies. What you mistake for ignorance is your own reflection, as you peer into deep waters from above the surface.

So basically, "I won't argue on personal experience because it might reveal too much about myself."

Weak sauce! Take that back to your safe space. Gary has a tinfoil hat for you on your way out.

curious2 says

I will say though that I've read all the Dune books and seen the movies. What you mistake for ignorance is your own reflection, as you peer into deep waters from above the surface.

Your philosopher mind f* just shredded me. Clearly, I must re-think my life. Gonna stab a muslim on my way out of the office now.

curious2 says

TMI.

Your fear and paranoia now grips me too. Oh god what have I done! What have I doneeee! NOOOOOoooooo ... (running home to remove my flag mount and hide.)

Rew says

Gonna stab a muslim on my way out of the office now.

Don't.

Rew says

the 10-15 Muslims I interact with daily, at work, are all ready to slit my throat if I fall asleep in my office...only about 20% of our Moooslims here are US citizens! The rest are on visas!

If you know the 80% as well as you claim, then you might ask about Asia Bibi. If enough westerners keep asking about her, then the Islamic "Republic" of Pakistan might allow her to live a little longer, and maybe someday see her children. I think her family would appreciate that.

Have a nice weekend, my friend.

About Aasia Bibi:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33617186

Omg! The majority persecuting, imprisoning, and even killing the minority? That never happens!

Rew says

even killing the minority?

Just ask about Asia Bibi, instead of wallowing in sarcastic ignorance. You might do some good.

Meanwhile, if you had read the link that Patrick provided, you would know that "Muslims constitute a majority of those prosecuted, followed by minority Ahmadis." Submitting to Islam is no defense against getting killed in the name of Islam. The dead charlatan Mohamed's fraud hates everyone, dividing the world into the slaves of allah and the enemies of allah; both can be killed for the slightest infraction.

Rew says

"If Christians or Jews want to point to violent parts of the Koran and suggest that those elements taint the whole religion, they open themselves to the obvious question: what about their own faiths?"

Islam is a simplified and universalized form of Judaism, with Mohammed and his exemplary life of warfare, murder, and rape added on for all to imitate.

While Judaism is indeed largely about taking over the land of Israel by force if necessary, Islam expanded that target to the whole world.

Jesus himself was a Jew, but expanded the Jewish commandment to "love your neighbor as yourself" to the whole world. Before Jesus, that particular phrase was used by Moses, but was understood to apply only to fellow Jews. So Christianity was also a universalized form of Judaism, but Jesus was very different from Mohammed. Jesus killed and raped no one at all. Much better example.

Rew says

Omg! The majority persecuting, imprisoning, and even killing the minority? That never happens!

Rew, you will never win an argument defending Islam. Trying to win an argument about Islam just makes you look hypocritical and silly.
I'm also willing to bet a $100 you are a Muslim who grew up in the USA.

Rew says

Go see Islam as practiced in America. I dare you. Stick your hand in the box ...

I got a better Idea why don't you bring your floorsmooching disrespectful ass to a Baptist church and get right with the Lord?