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Trump Punts On Border Wall, Will Wait Until September

Apr 24, 2017 9:50 PM

In what may the flip-flop that resonates the most among his core voter base, Trump said that contrary to recent reports that the White House demands funding for Trump's proposed wall along the Mexican border be part of the spending bill - which has become a wildcard whether the government is shut on Friday night or not - Trump said on Monday that he is "open to waiting until later this year" to secure funding for said wall, a flop that would clear the way for Congress to strike a deal to avoid a government shutdown on Saturday, the WSJ reported.

On funding the border wall, Trump said he could get it this week or the administration could come back to it in September.
— Trey Yingst (@TreyYingst) April 24, 2017
As recently as Monday morning, top administration officials had indicated the president wanted to include money to begin building a wall along the Southern border in the bill needed this week to keep the government running after its current funding expires at 12:01 a.m. Saturday, which is also the president’s 100th day in office.

However, during a reception with conservative media at the White House on Monday night, when Trump also unveiled the 20% tariff on Canadian softwood lumber, the president addressed the issue and indicated his willingness to wait and "flexibility" whether the wall is funded in this spending bill or one that will be needed in late September.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-24/government-shutdown-averted-trump-willing-wait-border-wall-funds-until-september

Wait, why does Trump have to build another Wall?

Bill Clinton promised us one at the very beginning of his second term. I guess Clinton failed to keep a promise.

www.youtube.com/embed/FZXbG5gvoC0

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Bill Clinton promised us one at the very beginning of his second term.

He did? Guess I missed that part ;)

Ironman says

Imagine that, the current President cares MORE about the COUNTRY than his own personal wishes....

What? I thought the wall was needed to secure the borders of our country. The point of the wall was to protect our COUNTRY. Is that no longer the case?

If he doesn't build the wall, doesn't that show that he cares more about himself than he does about the COUNTRY?

The Ironman Trump cultist grasps Trump's shaft, milks the prostrate and cradles the balls.

So letting terrorists flow into our country through our porous borders is no big deal now?

Simple priorities.
You know it.
I know it.
Only one explanation for your post.
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joeyjojojunior says

So letting terrorists flow into our country through our porous borders is no big deal now?

"Simple priorities."

I see. So stopping terrorism is a low priority then? Gotcha.

Border patrol active during government shutdown so no worse off than we are now. your statement is asinine.
joeyjojojunior says

"Simple priorities."

I see. So stopping terrorism is a low priority then? Gotcha.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/border-rancher-illegal-crossings-90-since-trump-became-president/

Border rancher: Illegal crossings down 90% since Trump became president

Arizona ranchers John Ladd and Fred Davis invited House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to see the southern border from their property, but she never responded.

But they responded this morning to Pelosi’s recent claim that the border wall is “immoral, expensive, unwise.”

Appearing on Fox & Friends on Tuesday, Ladd said border crossings by illegal aliens have decreased 90% to 95% since Donald Trump took office.

Perhaps more shockingly, Ladd has determined through Border Patrol data that some 500,000 illegal aliens have crossed his property in the 30 years he’s owned it.

Davis disputed Pelosi’s notion that a wall would divide border towns.

“All the communities that I know about, all the cities along the border, already have high fences,” he told co-host Steve Doocy, disputing Pelosi’s argument.

“Where the wall is necessary is in a lot of the outlying areas that still only have a four-wire barbed-wire fence between Mexico and us.”

Davis said the wall, which he said is one tool, is necessary to stop drug cartels and other criminals from entering the U.S.

“You’ve got to put boots on the ground to make it effective, and that’s been part of the problem on what places they have a wall now,” he said.

Let's put Pelosi on the south side of the wall, where she can better represent her constituents.

Did we not learn anything from Roger Waters? The Wall was a Metaphor.

"Border patrol active during government shutdown so no worse off than we are now. your statement is asinine."

Your statement makes no sense and you claim mine is asinine?

"Hey Tatty, is that a tough concept for you to understand??"

Yes, it is hard for me to understand that stopping terrorism is a low priority.

When Trump balked on Saudi Arabia, it was clear that terrorism was something too tough for him to handle. Kinda like Obamacare repeal and replace, and The Wall.

But Hillary Clinton! Obama!!

It's sad to see so many LOSER Trump voters.
Too bad they were bitten by a snake.
He will get the money from Mexico.
We don't know in what year.

errc says

it was clear that terrorism was something too tough for him to handle.

He's standing in the midst of TERRORISM,THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

Ironman says

So you rather have the government shut down instead?

So you would rather continue to borrow money & let Americans work their asses off to pay the interest?
How much do you owe & how much interest are you paying?
You can't say you owe nothing.You are paying on the national debt through taxes.
Maybe you are in the 1% and get tax breaks that working broke ass dumb fuck Republicans can't benefit from.

Today's lesson in trolling.

"So you rather have the government shut down instead?"

Mr. "Art of the Deal", the master negotiator can't figure a way to do both?

"He writes the spending bills in congress?? Really?? When did he pass that Executive Order? Can you link it for me?"

Interesting. So why is he flipping on the border wall then? He doesn't write the spending bills anyway?

HEY YOU says

So you would rather continue to borrow money & let Americans work their asses off to pay the interest?

Right, so millions of illegals cost nothing, amirite? The magic fairy reaches down in Jose's pocket and takes out his under-the-table cash wages and deducts the payroll tax that was not paid by employer or Jose?

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

HEY YOU says

So you would rather continue to borrow money & let Americans work their asses off to pay the interest?

Right, so millions of illegals cost nothing, amirite? The magic fairy reaches down in Jose's pocket and takes out his under-the-table cash wages and deducts the payroll tax that was not paid by employer or Jose?

Sure, they cost something. The correct question is, do they produce more than they cost? Millions of illegals are doing plenty of the actual real work that makes the world spin.

You seem to be saying that if only Jose had his proper papers in order, and allowed Uncle Sam to run his minimum wages through the wringer, then he'd be paying his fair share?

I can envision a scenario where legal Jose costs MORE than illegal Jose.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/amid-immigration-setbacks-one-trump-strategy-seems-to-be-working-fear/2017/04/30/62af1620-2b4e-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html

The number of migrants, legal and illegal, crossing into the United States has dropped markedly since Trump took office, while recent declines in the number of deportations have been reversed.

Many experts on both sides of the immigration debate attribute at least part of this shift to the use of sharp, unwelcoming rhetoric by Trump and his aides, as well as the administration’s showy use of enforcement raids and public spotlighting of crimes committed by immigrants. The tactics were aimed at sending a political message to those in the country illegally or those thinking about trying to come.

“The world is getting the message,” Trump said last week during a speech at the National Rifle Association leadership forum in Atlanta. “They know our border is no longer open to illegal immigration, and if they try to break in you’ll be caught and you’ll be returned to your home. You’re not staying any longer. If you keep coming back illegally after deportation, you’ll be arrested and prosecuted and put behind bars. Otherwise it will never end.”

The most vivid evidence that Trump’s tactics have had an effect has come at the southern border with Mexico, where the number of apprehensions made by Customs and Border Patrol agents plummeted from more than 40,000 per month at the end of 2016 to just 12,193 in March, according to federal data.

Immigrant rights advocates and restrictionist groups said there is little doubt that the Trump administration’s tough talk has had impact.

“The bottom line is that they have entirely changed the narrative around immigration,” said Doris Meissner, who served as the commissioner of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service in the Clinton administration. “The result of that is that, yes, you can call it words and rhetoric, and it certainly is, but it is changing behavior. It is changing the way the United States is viewed around the world, as well as the way we’re talking about and reacting to immigration within the country.”

Experts emphasized that it is still early and that the initial success the administration has had in slashing illegal border crossings could be reversed if it fails to follow through on more aggressive enforcement actions that will require more than just rhetorical bombast.

Federal agents arrested 21,362 immigrants, mostly convicted criminals, from January through mid-March, compared with 16,104 during the same period last year, according to federal data. Arrests of immigrants with no criminal records more than doubled, to 5,441 in that period.

“This is the Trump era. Progress is being made daily, and it will continue,” declared Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who has begun to reorganize the Justice Department to prosecute more immigration cases. “This will be the administration that fully enforces our nation’s immigration laws.”

Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates for lower immigration levels, called Trump’s first few months a “mixed picture,” but he said the administration “has clearly made some progress.”

“The decline at the border is not something that happened on its own — it’s a reaction to concerns Trump is going to restore the enforcement of immigration laws,” Krikorian said. “It won’t last if that fear isn’t realized, but if it is, if Trump follows through, we’re likely to see a sustained reduction in border crossings.”

Internal planning documents from the Department of Homeland Security leaked recently showed that the agency is preparing to significantly ramp up the nationwide deportation force that Trump promised on the campaign trail.

The agency has secured 33,000 additional detention beds and is considering waiving some requirements, including a polygraph exam and a physical fitness test, to speed up the hiring of more immigration agents. ICE and CBP also are working with dozens of local police departments interested in being more deeply involved in immigration enforcement.

The number of refugees entering the United States has plummeted from nearly 10,000 last October to fewer than 2,500 in April.