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HeadSet
2018 Nov 28, 8:49am
HeadSet
2018 Nov 28, 8:49am
My wife can not only read my thoughts, but can even predict what my thoughts will be in the next few minutes, before I even think them.
Maybe she is actually programming you remotely.
Actually, in my opinion, women are typically smarter than men - women just do not care about proving it. I have overheard women talking about how to control men using three techniques. To get men to do something, ask them not to do it, let them think it was their idea, and the old standby implied offer of sex.
Maybe she is actually programming you remotely.
Actually, in my opinion, women are typically smarter than men - women just do not care about proving it. I have overheard women talking about how to control men using three techniques. To get men to do something, ask them not to do it, let them think it was their idea, and the old standby implied offer of sex.
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mell
2018 Nov 28, 9:28am
HeadSet says
Agree on the programming but that doesn't mean that they are smarter. You can be incredibly intelligent and still fail socially. Men - at least strong T men not soyboys - have an incredibly strong sex drive way different from women. A woman will never experience what it feels like fucking a beautiful HB8 or HB9 and unloading, for them it's more complex, less endorphins and tied to many other things. That's why every high T man eventually cheats if the woman withholds sex long enough and why men seem to do "stupid" things for hot women when sex is in the outlook. It's an urge/instinct that is so strong that event the brain admits is necessary to function properly. It's not stupidity on the men's part, it's necessity. Back then women were expected to perform for their men as part of the relationship, since the advent of soyboys, leftoids and man-screwing marital laws women gained the upper hand. Not much to do with IQ as we measure it, even "dumb" women can play that game perfectly. Ultimately though it doesn't make women happy if they can't submit which you can see by the rising use of ssris in women and the increase in bitter childless post wall cat ladies.
My wife can not only read my thoughts, but can even predict what my thoughts will be in the next few minutes, before I even think them.
Maybe she is actually programming you remotely.
Actually, in my opinion, women are typically smarter than men - women just do not care about proving it. I have overheard women talking about how to control men using three techniques. To get men to do something, ask them not to do it, let them think it was their idea, and the old standby implied offer of sex.
Agree on the programming but that doesn't mean that they are smarter. You can be incredibly intelligent and still fail socially. Men - at least strong T men not soyboys - have an incredibly strong sex drive way different from women. A woman will never experience what it feels like fucking a beautiful HB8 or HB9 and unloading, for them it's more complex, less endorphins and tied to many other things. That's why every high T man eventually cheats if the woman withholds sex long enough and why men seem to do "stupid" things for hot women when sex is in the outlook. It's an urge/instinct that is so strong that event the brain admits is necessary to function properly. It's not stupidity on the men's part, it's necessity. Back then women were expected to perform for their men as part of the relationship, since the advent of soyboys, leftoids and man-screwing marital laws women gained the upper hand. Not much to do with IQ as we measure it, even "dumb" women can play that game perfectly. Ultimately though it doesn't make women happy if they can't submit which you can see by the rising use of ssris in women and the increase in bitter childless post wall cat ladies.
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mell
2018 Nov 28, 9:34am
The above post may seem crude but even as a religious person, say Catholic, there are 2 preconditions on man and woman for a successful and blessed marriage. Willingness and ability to have sex regularly and open and welcoming to having children. Religions are not stupid constructs and they figured that one out pretty early. The abuse/overuse of the pill and abortions are partly responsible for the decline of the nuclear happy family.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 28, 1:19pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 28, 1:19pm
clambo says
Yep, but the SJWs are steadily moving back to Gender-Sex is interchangeable position again.
The explosion in the use of "Gender" is from Dr. John Money who was a psychologist, not even a psychiatrist. It's reference to the behavior of humans was practically nil prior to the 1950/60s.
You may remember Dr. Money as the guy who told the parents of David Reimer (I think that's the last name) after his penis was deformed due to Phimosis at 6 months (he wasn't circumcised at birth, and instead of a regular circumcision by knife the inexperienced Canadian Doctor used an electric cauterizing machine which burned off his penis - anticirc freaks lie about when and how the circumicision was done), they could raise him as a girl and it would be the same since Gender was a social construct.
This story basically killed the Genderbender Stuff (that first emerged into popular consciousness in the 70s) from the mid 1980s-early 2000s when it was first covered in multiple television documentaries.
It later came out that Dr. Money was accused of molesting children and, of course, he publicly defended Paedophilia, saying it was an "Oversupply of Parental Love." and that Heterosexuality was also a social construct.
"Therapy" included making the twins strip and simulate sex on each other, while Dr. Money showed them explicit sexual photographs.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2004/may/12/scienceandnature.gender
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00t97xf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money
Money and John Hopkins became the Center of pushing the whole "Gender is Social".
Money was never charged and Hopkins has never apologized.
Oh, and both twins (David AND his Brother) committed suicide.
Sorry to nitpick language, but whether something is male or female is its sex. Gender refers to words in languages like Spanish being masculine or feminine.
Yep, but the SJWs are steadily moving back to Gender-Sex is interchangeable position again.
The explosion in the use of "Gender" is from Dr. John Money who was a psychologist, not even a psychiatrist. It's reference to the behavior of humans was practically nil prior to the 1950/60s.
You may remember Dr. Money as the guy who told the parents of David Reimer (I think that's the last name) after his penis was deformed due to Phimosis at 6 months (he wasn't circumcised at birth, and instead of a regular circumcision by knife the inexperienced Canadian Doctor used an electric cauterizing machine which burned off his penis - anticirc freaks lie about when and how the circumicision was done), they could raise him as a girl and it would be the same since Gender was a social construct.
This story basically killed the Genderbender Stuff (that first emerged into popular consciousness in the 70s) from the mid 1980s-early 2000s when it was first covered in multiple television documentaries.
It later came out that Dr. Money was accused of molesting children and, of course, he publicly defended Paedophilia, saying it was an "Oversupply of Parental Love." and that Heterosexuality was also a social construct.
"Therapy" included making the twins strip and simulate sex on each other, while Dr. Money showed them explicit sexual photographs.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2004/may/12/scienceandnature.gender
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00t97xf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money
Money and John Hopkins became the Center of pushing the whole "Gender is Social".
Money was never charged and Hopkins has never apologized.
Oh, and both twins (David AND his Brother) committed suicide.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 28, 1:51pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 28, 1:51pm
curious2 says
Two, the other is a genetic disorders called Kleinfelter's Syndrome. Individuals are functional males, with occasional issues with infertility or cognitive impairment. The disease seems to be random and not inheritable, but seems to effect the boys born of Older Mothers more. There is no statistically significant connection between Kleinfelter and gender dysphoria.
Dishonest Gender advocates pad the numbers of "Other Sex" individuals using Kleinfelter's afflictants, even though there is no evidence, other than a higher chance of infertility and perhaps slightly weaker sex drive (due to lower Testosterone) they are anything other than male.
Anybody who hangs around Sci-Fi/STEM guys probably knows a few chubby, soft faced, taller dudes who may have known or unknown Kleinfelter's syndrome. I've known two people who were formerly diagnosed with Kleinfelter, including one of my best childhood friends who I grew up with since the 2nd grade, went to college with, owned a business in my late 20s with, and otherwise knew for the first 30 years of my life.
He liked Tall Blonde Athletic Chicks, brewing beer, amateur photography, and was a huge NY Mets fan with season tickets. As straight and ordinary as a semi-nerdy guy could be.
How many sexes do you see in the following sets of healthy human sex chromosomes: xx, xy, xxy?
Two, the other is a genetic disorders called Kleinfelter's Syndrome. Individuals are functional males, with occasional issues with infertility or cognitive impairment. The disease seems to be random and not inheritable, but seems to effect the boys born of Older Mothers more. There is no statistically significant connection between Kleinfelter and gender dysphoria.
Dishonest Gender advocates pad the numbers of "Other Sex" individuals using Kleinfelter's afflictants, even though there is no evidence, other than a higher chance of infertility and perhaps slightly weaker sex drive (due to lower Testosterone) they are anything other than male.
Anybody who hangs around Sci-Fi/STEM guys probably knows a few chubby, soft faced, taller dudes who may have known or unknown Kleinfelter's syndrome. I've known two people who were formerly diagnosed with Kleinfelter, including one of my best childhood friends who I grew up with since the 2nd grade, went to college with, owned a business in my late 20s with, and otherwise knew for the first 30 years of my life.
He liked Tall Blonde Athletic Chicks, brewing beer, amateur photography, and was a huge NY Mets fan with season tickets. As straight and ordinary as a semi-nerdy guy could be.
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curious2
2018 Nov 28, 2:05pm
curious2
2018 Nov 28, 2:05pm
mell says
I suspect that women may be more likely to trust "health" "care" clinicians, and thus to go in for SSRIs, mammograms even when not helpful, and other unhelpful procedures. Clinicians become practiced at sending supportive cues that induce trust. Prior to Obamneycare, insurance premiums had gone higher for women than for men, which was remarkable and should have sent a warning about behavior. Instead, it made Obamneycare into a feminist cause, to equalize insurance premiums. (No parallel political movement can be found for car insurance premiums, and there is no shame in telling men to drive safely.) The disparity in premiums should have warned women that they were injuring themselves with excessive medical interventions, with generally adverse consequences.
Regarding usage, "gender" = masculine/feminine/neutral, "sex" = male/female/non-binary. I have seen different people use "gender" when they mean "sex," for different reasons. It might have started with Victorian and/or Puritan prudishness, or simple carelessness, because I have seen it in writings going back many years. Patrick seems to use "gender" that way too.
rising use of ssris in women
I suspect that women may be more likely to trust "health" "care" clinicians, and thus to go in for SSRIs, mammograms even when not helpful, and other unhelpful procedures. Clinicians become practiced at sending supportive cues that induce trust. Prior to Obamneycare, insurance premiums had gone higher for women than for men, which was remarkable and should have sent a warning about behavior. Instead, it made Obamneycare into a feminist cause, to equalize insurance premiums. (No parallel political movement can be found for car insurance premiums, and there is no shame in telling men to drive safely.) The disparity in premiums should have warned women that they were injuring themselves with excessive medical interventions, with generally adverse consequences.
Regarding usage, "gender" = masculine/feminine/neutral, "sex" = male/female/non-binary. I have seen different people use "gender" when they mean "sex," for different reasons. It might have started with Victorian and/or Puritan prudishness, or simple carelessness, because I have seen it in writings going back many years. Patrick seems to use "gender" that way too.
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mell
2018 Nov 28, 2:17pm
curious2 says
I have no problems with the expanded usage of gender but it then it worthless for IDs and similar documents. Determining someone's sex is useful for forensics (in the event of crimes for example) or sports competitions (unfair advantage) and many programs that need the biological, scientific answer, similar to race and other traits. People can have any gender they want but they cannot mandate it to be meaningful to others. Wrt sex it is totally fine to have male, female, and other (specify) for the few non-deterministic cases - and those who undergo a full transition can have that change approved. But if you expand the category and allow arbitrary definition of sexes then it quickly becomes unscientific and for the most part useless. We can reserve that for gender/orientation, have at it, masculine, feminine, sapiosexual, pastafari, non-binary, queer, king, superman, white-female-indentifying-as-black-male and what not.. But that's more for dating profiles than for government/scientific use.
mell saysrising use of ssris in women
I suspect that women may be more likely to trust "health" "care" clinicians, and thus to go in for SSRIs, mammograms even when not helpful, and other unhelpful procedures. Clinicians become practiced at sending supportive cues that induce trust. Prior to Obamneycare, insurance premiums had gone higher for women than for men, which was remarkable and should have sent a warning about behavior. Instead, it made Obamneycare into a feminist cause, to equalize insurance premiums. (No parallel political movement can be found for car insurance premiums, and there is no shame in telling men to drive safely.) The disparity in premiums should have warned women that they were injuring themselves with excessive medical interventions, with generally adverse consequences.
Regarding usage, "gender" = masculine/feminine/neutral, "sex" = male/female/non-binary. I have ...
I have no problems with the expanded usage of gender but it then it worthless for IDs and similar documents. Determining someone's sex is useful for forensics (in the event of crimes for example) or sports competitions (unfair advantage) and many programs that need the biological, scientific answer, similar to race and other traits. People can have any gender they want but they cannot mandate it to be meaningful to others. Wrt sex it is totally fine to have male, female, and other (specify) for the few non-deterministic cases - and those who undergo a full transition can have that change approved. But if you expand the category and allow arbitrary definition of sexes then it quickly becomes unscientific and for the most part useless. We can reserve that for gender/orientation, have at it, masculine, feminine, sapiosexual, pastafari, non-binary, queer, king, superman, white-female-indentifying-as-black-male and what not.. But that's more for dating profiles than for government/scientific use.
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mell
2018 Nov 28, 2:20pm
curious2 says
Agreed. The usage of SSRIs in American's in general, but esp. women is staggering and frightening and women do trust the "consensus" more than men (even when it is flawed or manipulated) which brings us back to the generally "meaner" distribution of women's brains/IQs. Makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint as the men were traditionally doing the extremes (hunting, warfare etc.) and the women were not meant to take crass risks off the beaten path or against the consensus on how to best raise children.
I suspect that women may be more likely to trust "health" "care" clinicians, and thus to go in for SSRIs, mammograms even when not helpful, and other unhelpful procedures. Clinicians become practiced at sending supportive cues that induce trust. Prior to Obamneycare, insurance premiums had gone higher for women than for men, which was remarkable and should have sent a warning about behavior. Instead, it made Obamneycare into a feminist cause, to equalize insurance premiums.
Agreed. The usage of SSRIs in American's in general, but esp. women is staggering and frightening and women do trust the "consensus" more than men (even when it is flawed or manipulated) which brings us back to the generally "meaner" distribution of women's brains/IQs. Makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint as the men were traditionally doing the extremes (hunting, warfare etc.) and the women were not meant to take crass risks off the beaten path or against the consensus on how to best raise children.
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Heraclitusstudent
2018 Nov 28, 6:10pm
Heraclitusstudent
2018 Nov 28, 6:10pm
Patrick says
On your graph, the difference in variation for intelligence doesn't seem big, but this seems to be saying women are on average not as smart as men.
This is another thesis altogether, and probably a less credible one.
Not sure what "g" unit is here (standard deviation?), but the difference between the women curve and the men curve seems substantial compared to the distribution.
Again, women cluster toward their mean more than men do, but what does this mean for the outliers?
On your graph, the difference in variation for intelligence doesn't seem big, but this seems to be saying women are on average not as smart as men.
This is another thesis altogether, and probably a less credible one.
Not sure what "g" unit is here (standard deviation?), but the difference between the women curve and the men curve seems substantial compared to the distribution.
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Patrick
2018 Nov 28, 6:45pm
Patrick
2018 Nov 28, 6:45pm
curious2 says
How many biological parents do you have?
How many does everyone on earth have?
Seems to be exactly two in every case. So it is a fact.
You emphasize binary models in which the "exactly two" is an assumption, though not a fact.
How many biological parents do you have?
How many does everyone on earth have?
Seems to be exactly two in every case. So it is a fact.
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Ceffer
2018 Nov 28, 6:48pm
Ceffer
2018 Nov 28, 6:48pm
The egg farms are smart enough to hide that they are geniuses a lot of the time. They don't require proselytization, just prostitution.
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Strategist
2018 Nov 28, 7:34pm
Strategist
2018 Nov 28, 7:34pm
Patrick says
So stupid males are as stupid as stupid females. Intelligent men are more intelligent than intelligent women. Intelligence based on math and science abilities, yes, this is a fact. Women don't think with numbers and rational thought, they think with feelings. Their feelings are a lot more accurate than men. I always let my wife have the final say on wether our dog needs to go to a vet. She has never been wrong. When it comes to maps and directions, she has never been right.
All these differences are due to evolution, where humans survived not just because of differing skills between males and females, but also differing skills that everyone in a given society has. There is no superior or inferior when every type of intelligence and skills were and still are needed for our survival.
Again, women cluster toward their mean more than men do, but what does this mean for the outliers? It means that the ratio of male to female geniuses is dramatically large. There are simply on the order of ten times more male geniuses. This is not sexism, unless you consider scientific and mathematical facts to be sexism.
So stupid males are as stupid as stupid females. Intelligent men are more intelligent than intelligent women. Intelligence based on math and science abilities, yes, this is a fact. Women don't think with numbers and rational thought, they think with feelings. Their feelings are a lot more accurate than men. I always let my wife have the final say on wether our dog needs to go to a vet. She has never been wrong. When it comes to maps and directions, she has never been right.
All these differences are due to evolution, where humans survived not just because of differing skills between males and females, but also differing skills that everyone in a given society has. There is no superior or inferior when every type of intelligence and skills were and still are needed for our survival.
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Patrick
2018 Nov 28, 7:42pm
Patrick
2018 Nov 28, 7:42pm
I changed "gender" to "sex" in the original post.
There are two sexes, and everyone reading this has exactly two biological parents who are the opposite sex from each other.
There are no exceptions.
There are two sexes, and everyone reading this has exactly two biological parents who are the opposite sex from each other.
There are no exceptions.
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Strategist
2018 Nov 28, 8:17pm
Strategist
2018 Nov 28, 8:17pm
Patrick says
Good thing certain amphibians/frogs or species can't read, or else you would not be quite as correct.
everyone reading this has exactly two biological parents who are the opposite sex from each other.
There are no exceptions.
Good thing certain amphibians/frogs or species can't read, or else you would not be quite as correct.
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Patrick
2018 Nov 28, 8:19pm
Patrick
2018 Nov 28, 8:19pm
Pretty sure it's absolutely true for all amphibians as well.
There is a female which lays eggs, and a male which deposits sperm.
No other options.
There is a female which lays eggs, and a male which deposits sperm.
No other options.
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Strategist
2018 Nov 28, 9:18pm
Strategist
2018 Nov 28, 9:18pm
Patrick says
There are several species that reproduce asexually. Strange, but true.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/asexual-lizards/
No Sex Needed: All-Female Lizard Species Cross Their Chromosomes to Make Babies
Pretty sure it's absolutely true for all amphibians as well.
There is a female which lays eggs, and a male which deposits sperm.
No other options.
There are several species that reproduce asexually. Strange, but true.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/asexual-lizards/
No Sex Needed: All-Female Lizard Species Cross Their Chromosomes to Make Babies
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lostand confused
2018 Nov 28, 9:26pm
lostand confused
2018 Nov 28, 9:26pm
If I am a straight lesbian am I still a man-ah the endless possibilities of gender!!!
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Strategist
2018 Nov 28, 9:32pm
Strategist
2018 Nov 28, 9:32pm
lostand confused says
Don't know. Might have to create a whole new gender in addition to the 50 we already have.
If I am a straight lesbian am I still a man-ah the endless possibilities of gender!!!
Don't know. Might have to create a whole new gender in addition to the 50 we already have.
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curious2
2018 Nov 29, 12:08am
curious2
2018 Nov 29, 12:08am
Patrick says
"Pregnancy in true hermaphrodites and all male offspring to date."
"Potential autofertility in true hermaphrodites"
"True Hermaphroditism and Mixed Gonadal Dysgenesis in Young Children: A Clinicopathologic Study of 10 Cases"
Patrick says
"These west African frogs have been known to spontaneously change sex from female to male. This likely occurs when the population does not have enough males to allow procreation and is accomplished when a chemical trigger activates the sex gene to disintegrate the female organs and develop the male ones."
Further reading:
"Some species exhibit sequential hermaphroditism. In these species, such as many species of coral reef fishes, sex change is a normal anatomical process. Clownfish, wrasses, moray eels, gobies and other fish species are known to change sex, including reproductive functions. A school of clownfish is always built into a hierarchy with a female fish at the top. When she dies, the most dominant male changes sex and takes her place. In the wrasses (the family Labridae), sex change is from female to male, with the largest female of the harem changing into a male and taking over the harem upon the disappearance of the previous dominant male.
Natural sex change, in both directions, has also been reported in mushroom corals. This is posited to take place in response to environmental or energetic constraints, and to improve the organism's evolutionary fitness; similar phenomena are observed in some dioecious plants.
Chickens can sometimes undergo natural sex changes. Normally, female chickens have just one functional ovary, on their left side. Although two sex organs are present during the embryonic stages of all birds, once a chicken's female hormones come into effect, it typically develops only the left ovary. The right gonad, which has yet to be defined as an ovary, testes, or both (called an ovotestis), typically remains dormant. Certain medical conditions can cause a chicken's left ovary to regress. In the absence of a functional left ovary, the dormant right sex organ may begin to grow, if the activated right gonad is an ovotestis or testes, it will begin secreting androgens. The hen does not completely change into a rooster, however. This transition is limited to making the bird phenotypically male. The condition could also be caused by mycotoxins that can develop when animal feed is stored, and these have the same effect as synthetic hormones. In about 10 per cent of cases, if eggs fertilised with male chromosomes are cooled by a few degrees for three days after laying, the relative activity of the sex hormones will favour development of female characteristics. The sex chromosomes work by coding for enzymes that affect the bird’s development in the egg and during its life. This cooling will produce a chicken with a fully functioning and reproductively fertile female body-type; even though the chicken is genetically male."
The superabundance of evidence makes me wonder why you persist in denial.
Patrick says
I am really curious who "liked" your obviously false comments. Someone who likes to deny scientific fact, apparently.
There are two sexes, and everyone reading this has exactly two biological parents who are the opposite sex from each other.
There are no exceptions.
"Pregnancy in true hermaphrodites and all male offspring to date."
"Potential autofertility in true hermaphrodites"
"True Hermaphroditism and Mixed Gonadal Dysgenesis in Young Children: A Clinicopathologic Study of 10 Cases"
Patrick says
Pretty sure it's absolutely true for all amphibians as well.
There is a female which lays eggs, and a male which deposits sperm.
No other options.
"These west African frogs have been known to spontaneously change sex from female to male. This likely occurs when the population does not have enough males to allow procreation and is accomplished when a chemical trigger activates the sex gene to disintegrate the female organs and develop the male ones."
Further reading:
"Some species exhibit sequential hermaphroditism. In these species, such as many species of coral reef fishes, sex change is a normal anatomical process. Clownfish, wrasses, moray eels, gobies and other fish species are known to change sex, including reproductive functions. A school of clownfish is always built into a hierarchy with a female fish at the top. When she dies, the most dominant male changes sex and takes her place. In the wrasses (the family Labridae), sex change is from female to male, with the largest female of the harem changing into a male and taking over the harem upon the disappearance of the previous dominant male.
Natural sex change, in both directions, has also been reported in mushroom corals. This is posited to take place in response to environmental or energetic constraints, and to improve the organism's evolutionary fitness; similar phenomena are observed in some dioecious plants.
Chickens can sometimes undergo natural sex changes. Normally, female chickens have just one functional ovary, on their left side. Although two sex organs are present during the embryonic stages of all birds, once a chicken's female hormones come into effect, it typically develops only the left ovary. The right gonad, which has yet to be defined as an ovary, testes, or both (called an ovotestis), typically remains dormant. Certain medical conditions can cause a chicken's left ovary to regress. In the absence of a functional left ovary, the dormant right sex organ may begin to grow, if the activated right gonad is an ovotestis or testes, it will begin secreting androgens. The hen does not completely change into a rooster, however. This transition is limited to making the bird phenotypically male. The condition could also be caused by mycotoxins that can develop when animal feed is stored, and these have the same effect as synthetic hormones. In about 10 per cent of cases, if eggs fertilised with male chromosomes are cooled by a few degrees for three days after laying, the relative activity of the sex hormones will favour development of female characteristics. The sex chromosomes work by coding for enzymes that affect the bird’s development in the egg and during its life. This cooling will produce a chicken with a fully functioning and reproductively fertile female body-type; even though the chicken is genetically male."
The superabundance of evidence makes me wonder why you persist in denial.
Patrick says
deliberate suppression of this scientific fact
I am really curious who "liked" your obviously false comments. Someone who likes to deny scientific fact, apparently.
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curious2
2018 Nov 29, 12:13am
curious2
2018 Nov 29, 12:13am
@Patrick, this question has got me at least one "dislike" already, and you skipped it, so I will repost it:
curious2 says
Patrick says
Didn't you just say that "females of most species vary distinctly more in phenotype (the expression of genes) than males do."? I copied and pasted directly from your comment, so I think you said it.
curious2 says
Patrick saysfemales of most species vary distinctly more in phenotype (the expression of genes) than males do. Women cluster more around the mean, men are more spread out.
Could you please clarify? If the females "vary distinctly more," then why do they also "cluster more around the mean?" Conversely, if the males vary distinctly less, then how are they "more spread out?
Patrick says
there is greater variation among men.
Didn't you just say that "females of most species vary distinctly more in phenotype (the expression of genes) than males do."? I copied and pasted directly from your comment, so I think you said it.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 29, 7:39am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 29, 7:39am
I can't think of any mammals, and I'm sure no primates, that can spontaneously change sex, replace their genitalia, and/or can autoimpregnate themselves.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Nov 29, 7:55am
CBOEtrader
2018 Nov 29, 7:55am
curious2 says
yeah i think he meant the opposite. i read it as a mistake as well, same as you
Didn't you just say that "females of most species vary distinctly more in phenotype (the expression of genes) than males do."? I copied and pasted directly from your comment, so I think you said it.
yeah i think he meant the opposite. i read it as a mistake as well, same as you
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Patrick
2018 Nov 29, 8:56am
Patrick
2018 Nov 29, 8:56am
curious2 says
I wrote it exactly wrong.
It's the males who vary more than females.
Thanks for pointing out the error, @curious2
"females of most species vary distinctly more in phenotype (the expression of genes) than males do."?
I wrote it exactly wrong.
It's the males who vary more than females.
Thanks for pointing out the error, @curious2
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CBOEtrader
2018 Nov 29, 8:59am
CBOEtrader
2018 Nov 29, 8:59am
I suggest everyone go to twitter and post this article... then watch what happens :)
Feel like the regulars should all do this for the forum.
Frankly I'm too scared to post this to FB (socially enforced censorship even works on me)
Feel like the regulars should all do this for the forum.
Frankly I'm too scared to post this to FB (socially enforced censorship even works on me)
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 29, 9:01am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 29, 9:01am
Looks like g stands for general intelligence and it's the core of the IQ Tests.
Here are a few more (unprovenanced) tables and charts I found:
Here are a few more (unprovenanced) tables and charts I found:
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curious2
2018 Nov 29, 4:27pm
curious2
2018 Nov 29, 4:27pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
You may be right about that, but the human medical literature includes true hermaphrodites that get pregnant and bear sons. So far, I have not found documented cases of human auto-impregnation, although other species can reproduce asexually, as pointed out by Strategist above. Much more exists than has already been documented, so we don't really know what else might be out there.
Patrick says
Thanks for acknowledging that and fixing the error about who varies more in phenotype. I hope someday you will acknowledge the same and fix the error about how many genders and sexes there are.
Nature and human language produce consistently at least three categories. Hindu hijrahs go back many centuries. These aren't conspiracies to rob you, they are simply facts of life. The actual conspiracy to rob you is a bipartisan effort to polarize people by using false dichotomies to divide and misrule. In the D v R context:
D: Intersex and transgendered persons have equal rights and we must never compromise on any detail such as which public toilet to use;
R: Intersex and transgendered persons don't exist and if any dare to defy that by claiming to exist then the fact of their existence must be suppressed.
You have insisted upon a false, partisan slogan as if it were fact.
If nature were as brittle as your binary software code, then life would have crashed and needed to be restarted as often as Windows. Instead, life depends on a much more robust, complex system including diversity and adaptation to survive changing conditions. Your posts emphasize the costs of diversity in terms of cooperation, but overlook benefits for example resistance to disease. The history of agriculture shows many examples of how monocultures can get wiped out (e.g. bananas, and even the Irish potato famine). The dust bowl taught the necessity of crop rotation. Life does not conform to your binary theories; to the contrary, theories must yield to data.
I can't think of any mammals, and I'm sure no primates, that can spontaneously change sex, replace their genitalia, and/or can autoimpregnate themselves.
You may be right about that, but the human medical literature includes true hermaphrodites that get pregnant and bear sons. So far, I have not found documented cases of human auto-impregnation, although other species can reproduce asexually, as pointed out by Strategist above. Much more exists than has already been documented, so we don't really know what else might be out there.
Patrick says
I wrote it exactly wrong.
Thanks for acknowledging that and fixing the error about who varies more in phenotype. I hope someday you will acknowledge the same and fix the error about how many genders and sexes there are.
Nature and human language produce consistently at least three categories. Hindu hijrahs go back many centuries. These aren't conspiracies to rob you, they are simply facts of life. The actual conspiracy to rob you is a bipartisan effort to polarize people by using false dichotomies to divide and misrule. In the D v R context:
D: Intersex and transgendered persons have equal rights and we must never compromise on any detail such as which public toilet to use;
R: Intersex and transgendered persons don't exist and if any dare to defy that by claiming to exist then the fact of their existence must be suppressed.
You have insisted upon a false, partisan slogan as if it were fact.
If nature were as brittle as your binary software code, then life would have crashed and needed to be restarted as often as Windows. Instead, life depends on a much more robust, complex system including diversity and adaptation to survive changing conditions. Your posts emphasize the costs of diversity in terms of cooperation, but overlook benefits for example resistance to disease. The history of agriculture shows many examples of how monocultures can get wiped out (e.g. bananas, and even the Irish potato famine). The dust bowl taught the necessity of crop rotation. Life does not conform to your binary theories; to the contrary, theories must yield to data.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 29, 6:19pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Nov 29, 6:19pm
curious2 says
If there isn't at this point with about a century (more in some cases) of documented medical records, and it looks like no hermaphrodite has self-impregnated, it must be so vanishingly rare as to not require a third Sex category but can safely remain in the Syndrome category.
Also, in one of the links regarding South Korean doctors, they talked about how many MGD hermaphrodites needed tumor removal prior to puberty of some of their 'other' genitalia, meaning they would be unlikely to survive and/or reproduce in the "wild" non-modern environment.
My opposition to the idea of third sex also has to do with the intent of Leftists to leave the door as wide open for "nuturist supremacy" with the unsupported and anthropocentric (ironically enough) idea that humans alone of all animals have a great deal of malleability in social structure. They are also scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of finding oppressed groups to advocate on behalf of and thus undermine the confidence of the society which they believe is inferior to the ideal society which can be rationally directed. An idea that has been perculating in Western Civ since Plato's Republic, Augustine's City of God, Robespierre and Murat in the French Revolution, and "anti-bourgeois" "post-truth" anti-Enlightenment reactionaries in the 50s and 60s.
Assigning bathrooms and listing sex by genitalia remains the most efficient option, with the exemptions so infrequent as to be a ludicrous (and costly and divisive) exception.
If we allow people to use the bathroom they present as, we WILL have abuse of people and in particular children in public bathrooms, once enough obviously poorly passing people get let go when the police are called. Just like addicts and homeless people quickly learn which cities don't enforce pandering, urban RVing, or public defacation laws.
(That's not saying Trans people will do it, there will be "fake Trans" abusers. If it's solely on presentation, how will enforcers know until after an assault is committed?)
You may be right about that, but the human medical literature includes true hermaphrodites that get pregnant and bear sons. So far, I have not found documented cases of human auto-impregnation, although other species can reproduce asexually, as pointed out by Strategist above. Much more exists than has already been documented, so we don't really know what else might be out there.
If there isn't at this point with about a century (more in some cases) of documented medical records, and it looks like no hermaphrodite has self-impregnated, it must be so vanishingly rare as to not require a third Sex category but can safely remain in the Syndrome category.
Also, in one of the links regarding South Korean doctors, they talked about how many MGD hermaphrodites needed tumor removal prior to puberty of some of their 'other' genitalia, meaning they would be unlikely to survive and/or reproduce in the "wild" non-modern environment.
My opposition to the idea of third sex also has to do with the intent of Leftists to leave the door as wide open for "nuturist supremacy" with the unsupported and anthropocentric (ironically enough) idea that humans alone of all animals have a great deal of malleability in social structure. They are also scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of finding oppressed groups to advocate on behalf of and thus undermine the confidence of the society which they believe is inferior to the ideal society which can be rationally directed. An idea that has been perculating in Western Civ since Plato's Republic, Augustine's City of God, Robespierre and Murat in the French Revolution, and "anti-bourgeois" "post-truth" anti-Enlightenment reactionaries in the 50s and 60s.
Assigning bathrooms and listing sex by genitalia remains the most efficient option, with the exemptions so infrequent as to be a ludicrous (and costly and divisive) exception.
If we allow people to use the bathroom they present as, we WILL have abuse of people and in particular children in public bathrooms, once enough obviously poorly passing people get let go when the police are called. Just like addicts and homeless people quickly learn which cities don't enforce pandering, urban RVing, or public defacation laws.
(That's not saying Trans people will do it, there will be "fake Trans" abusers. If it's solely on presentation, how will enforcers know until after an assault is committed?)
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Strategist
2018 Nov 29, 7:47pm
Strategist
2018 Nov 29, 7:47pm
Strategist says
Speaking of women drivers. One of our cars parked on the 2nd floor of a parking garage in Newport Beach was slightly hit by another car that was parked next to us. The driver was pulling out and took off. A witness left a note on our car with the details. Lo and behold, it was a woman driver, an Asian woman, in a high end Mercedes. Perfectly fits the belief that women, particularly Asian women are the worst drivers. He he he he. Also fits the belief that rich Asians are buying up property in the Irvine/Newport Beach cities, but does not fit the belief of Asians being smart. This stupid woman must think there are no cameras in parking garages. I guess Asian woman are not as smart as Asian men.
This happened today.
Patrick saysWhy are there more male than female geniuses?
Have you seen women drive?
Speaking of women drivers. One of our cars parked on the 2nd floor of a parking garage in Newport Beach was slightly hit by another car that was parked next to us. The driver was pulling out and took off. A witness left a note on our car with the details. Lo and behold, it was a woman driver, an Asian woman, in a high end Mercedes. Perfectly fits the belief that women, particularly Asian women are the worst drivers. He he he he. Also fits the belief that rich Asians are buying up property in the Irvine/Newport Beach cities, but does not fit the belief of Asians being smart. This stupid woman must think there are no cameras in parking garages. I guess Asian woman are not as smart as Asian men.
This happened today.
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Strategist
2018 Nov 29, 7:59pm
Strategist
2018 Nov 29, 7:59pm
I wonder what the IQ levels for gays are? If heterosexual males are smarter in some regards to heterosexual women, would that indicate lesbians are smarted than male homosexuals with the same tests?
could be a very interesting study.
could be a very interesting study.
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Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2018 Nov 29, 9:43pm
Maga_Chaos_Monkey
2018 Nov 29, 9:43pm
Interesting question. Scientists have found (long ago) that gay males have a larger corpus callosum in some cases than typical females. It connects the hemispheres and it's thought that's why women multi-task better than males. That's more of a multi-processing feature than general intelligence though. Most of the gay guys I've worked with have been pretty sharp.
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First of all, most men are physically stronger than most women. This is a fact. It is not cultural. It is not learned. There are exactly two sexes, male and female, and males are distinctly stronger than women on average:
Secondly, males of most species vary distinctly more in phenotype (the expression of genes) than females do. Women cluster more around the mean, men are more spread out. This is true for height, weight, intelligence, and pretty much anything else you can think of:
Note that the purple line (women) is higher than the blue line (men). Out of a fixed number of people of the two sexes, more of them will cluster to the center of the female curve, making it higher. Height is the x-axis here, and men are obviously taller on average than women, but the point is that there is greater variation among men.
Finally, consider intelligence:
Again, women cluster toward their mean more than men do, but what does this mean for the outliers? It means that the ratio of male to female geniuses is dramatically large. There are simply on the order of ten times more male geniuses. This is not sexism, unless you consider scientific and mathematical facts to be sexism.
The study linked to in the article at the top of this post was erased from the internet due to feminists' and NPC allies' deliberate suppression of this scientific fact. You can thank science for most of the comforts you have today. When feminists succeed in erasing scientific facts that they don't like, we all suffer.
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