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2006 Oct 30, 3:14am   18,106 views  199 comments

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Some men who write to me complain that they know that a house is a horrible deal right now, but their wives want a house pronto, no matter what the cost. I get the feeling many wives are pressuring the husbands to buy, in the obvious way.

I know it's not politically correct to say so, but I think a lot of irrational house purchases are driven by female nesting instincts.

OK, how wrong am I?

Patrick

#housing

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143   skibum   2006 Oct 31, 6:41am  

@eburbed,

Just take ConfusedRenter's advice to heart:

Life is short, got to live it to the fullest! Not in fear or shame, but proud and with destiny!

and everything will work out for you!

144   FormerAptBroker   2006 Oct 31, 6:42am  

SFWoman Says:

> Nah, lots of men don’t like thin women.

Almost all (straight) men like thin women (defined as Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition thin, not 16 year old Heroin Addict thin).

The number of men that “don’t like” thin women (as defined above) is unbelievably small (about as small as the as the number of men that are in to amputees).

There are “lots” of men that “say” they don’t like thin women to make the chunky gal they are with happy (since they couldn’t attract a good looking thin gal).

Lots of people get to a point in life where they “say” that what they have is what they really want (but down deep wish they didn’t have a crappy job, a Geo Metro and a chunky wife)…

145   FRIFY   2006 Oct 31, 6:48am  

Life is short, got to live it to the fullest! Not in fear or shame, but proud and with destiny!

I missed that one. :-)

He's right! But I have a better solution than buying a house! I can accomplish all of these goals by strutting down the street naked, proud and with destiny! It will also only take $500 to bail out my ass after I sober up.

146   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 6:49am  

Almost all (straight) men like thin women (defined as Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition thin, not 16 year old Heroin Addict thin).

Or Vegan thin.

147   e   2006 Oct 31, 6:50am  

Life is short, got to live it to the fullest! Not in fear or shame, but proud and with destiny!

and everything will work out for you!

... and that's when I bought some shares of SGI thinking they'd come back. Oops.

148   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 6:51am  

I actually do not like thin women. They usually do not eat enough. Or they are too many things they do not eat.

149   e   2006 Oct 31, 6:52am  

The number of men that “don’t like” thin women (as defined above) is unbelievably small (about as small as the as the number of men that are in to amputees).

I think I've read somewhere that "thin" has been redefined in America - due in part to our obesity problem. That "not overweight" is now thin.

Wouldn't surprise me.

150   DinOR   2006 Oct 31, 6:52am  

FAB,

Why is it that this exactly what I would have expected your response to be? Discriminating is one thing, bitter is another. Look, we're ALL getting older, none of us are getting younger. The 16 year old smack addict comment was way out of line. That's just taking things to extremes to make your view of things look more centered. Most of the swimsuit edition gals ARE too thin and probably heavily air-brushed to boot. They only "exist" in the swimsuit edition!

151   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 6:52am  

… and that’s when I bought some shares of SGI thinking they’d come back. Oops.

LOL :lol: Sorry.

152   FRIFY   2006 Oct 31, 6:55am  

There are “lots” of men that “say” they don’t like thin women to make the chunky gal they are with happy (since they couldn’t attract a good looking thin gal).

Didn't you just finish talking about the slim pickings in the singles market and how they're only after your money? It doesn't sound like you're offering much more to a prospective mate.

Life is suffering. Suffering comes from desire. Your suffering could not be any more evident.

153   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 6:57am  

I have met lots of those picky eater move food around on the plate types as well.

My wife is quite picky too. She does not even eat sweetbreads.

154   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 6:59am  

If one can get into a full-sized car unassisted, he or she is not too fat.

155   DinOR   2006 Oct 31, 7:01am  

I get so tired of this. Any time a guy says he thinks a lot of actresses/models are too thin everyone snickers to themselves and thinks (geez, this guy must be stuck with a real "hefer"). I'm so tired of this.

Guys...... Mrs. DinOR looks just great thanks! Do I remember her being "thinner" sure. That was two (now grown) daughters ago. She spends way too much time exercising/worrying and is actually the most fun when she's eating! For Filipinas eating IS a very social thing. It gets old when were having a dinner to die for and the minute we get back to the car there's all this regret and retrenchment to not let THAT happen again! Can we all just let this go now? Hey! I'm buyin!

156   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 7:16am  

I just got another KB Homes email.

I got so many that they go automatically into the spam folder.

157   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 7:41am  

Healthy and not overweight in women is a European cultural thing, it applies in Canada, the US, Australia, NZ, etc.

It is probably a media thing. It is amazing how much control the media has on our value systems.

158   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 7:43am  

This is still my theory: obesity explains McMansions and SUV’s.

What about tiny airline seats?

159   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 7:48am  

Artificial Intelligence can speak, think and act to and through people telepathically, effectively forming your personality and any disfunctions you may experience.

Machines have no intuition.

160   skibum   2006 Oct 31, 7:52am  

What about tiny airline seats?

Not marketed to the obese consumer, rather, to an airline industry that calculates seat size based on maximizing carrying capacity to the limit of passenger tolerability. SUV's and McMansions are sold directly to the fat consumer.

161   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 7:52am  

In some periods in history, a well-fed look ruled supreme.

Being well-fed is more important.

Nowadays as McDonalds and Burger Kings rule the world, a thin look separates the upper class from the masses.

I assure you that it is possible to gain weight without fast food.

162   DinOR   2006 Oct 31, 8:02am  

Peter P, skibum,

Our Dr. is big on the "Okinawan Program". What have you (or anyone here) heard about it from a health/diet program?

163   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 8:05am  

Our Dr. is big on the “Okinawan Program”.

What do they eat?

Actually, the Japanese food or sushi diet is very effective. It is even more expensive at exotic restaurants. You cannot get fat if you do not want to pay for entrees. :)

164   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 8:08am  

I think a fish diet is indeed very healthy.

Many "scientists" are saying that mercury can be a problem and they want to steer people away from eating fish. This should help busting some myths:

http://www.fishscam.com/

165   DinOR   2006 Oct 31, 8:13am  

Peter P,

I'm still learning but obviously lots of fish, fresh fruit and vegetables. Oh and tofu. What was amazing about the study is that the more Okinawa becomes westernized the younger generations do not seem to enjoy the same level of health or longevity. Nor do Okinawans that migrate/assimilate so genetics seem to play a small part if any. It seems that although diet IS important this is as much about their attitude toward life and their concern for one another. Weird huh?

166   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 8:14am  

I seem to recall that Tuna is not OK.

The site I posted would probaby prove that most Hg guidelines are over-conservative. Many agencies are heavily influenced by environmentalists and animal "rights" activists.

167   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 8:16am  

It seems that although diet IS important this is as much about their attitude toward life and their concern for one another.

Yes. Diet is important. I actually believe that food drive cultural changes throughout history.

I love fish.

168   skibum   2006 Oct 31, 8:17am  

Well, Peter P has again linked us to a site sponsored by the Center for Consumer Freedom - Peter, are you affiliated with these guys somehow? It makes me laugh, your dogged support for these guys in the food industry.

Aside from this, I actually agree with Peter on fish. Mercury is clearly a problem if eaten in significant quantities. However, the amount of fish consumed by Americans doesn't even come close to the levels needed to cause problems. In Japan, there was a significant pandemic of Mercury-related disease later termed Minimata disease based on the area of Japan where industrial Mercury got into the fish food supply. But, the benefits of eating fish (omega-3 fatty acid intake, displacing unhealthy foods, protein intake, etc) far outweigh the risks.

@DinOR, I took a look at okinawa-diet.com. The diet seems reasonable and there doesn't appear to be much hooey like many "fad" diets. I'm just not sure about the unique benefits of the "Okinawan Diet." It looks like overall a very sensible thing, but it doesn't seem all that different from other sensible diets. If it works for you guys, go for it.

(Not medical advice).

169   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 8:20am  

I don’t allow people to drive me fast in their cars. They always overestimate their ability.

Exactly. 80mph is legal only on a few Texan highways. It is definitely not safe on highway ramps.

The car blew up and they identified him with dental records.

Sorry but I have to say it was a happy ending. He could have killed other drivers, passengers, or pedestrians.

People who like speed should learn to fly a plane. Even an Enzo cannot beat a Mustang (Cessna, not Ford) to Santa Barbara.

170   skibum   2006 Oct 31, 8:24am  

What was amazing about the study is that the more Okinawa becomes westernized the younger generations do not seem to enjoy the same level of health or longevity. Nor do Okinawans that migrate/assimilate so genetics seem to play a small part if any.

@DinOR,

That story's been played out in many cultures that have been only recently exposed to an American diet. Native Americans are a good example. There's a very important study following the Pima Indians of the Southwest - they have developed a ton of obesity and diabetes (no pun intended) since adopting a "modern" American diet (McDonald's and the like). The theory is that over generations many of these agrarian cultures lived on a feast-or-famine diet. Good harvest years lead to plenty of food, bad harvest years were lean. As a result, their metabolism has adapted to very efficiently extract energy and store it from food, particularly carbohydrates. Nowadays, on the US diet, their bodies can't "handle" the caloric overload, leading to obesity and diabetes.

171   Randy H   2006 Oct 31, 8:31am  

CG

I see you've dropped the pretend-you're-an-immigrant ruse. Life getting boring at Microsoft again? Shouldn't you be working on getting Vista out or something better than weaving some self-imagined tapestry of trolldom on a bubble site?

172   EBGuy   2006 Oct 31, 8:33am  

I find, even now, I’m just waiting to time the purchase of a second home…. its not a matter “if” its “when”, and this is despite the fact that my dear friends (many of whom have more financial savvy than myself) have repeatedly walked me through the economics as to why buying a vacation/second home doesn’t make any sense and is just plain stupid.

scutter,

What part of the country are you in... Have you considered a "fractional" second/vacation home? This seems to me to be the most sensible as you can make peace with your "primal urges" without losing your shirt. A DIY fractional (aka TIC - tenants in common) is the most affordable, while buying a fractional share on the secondary market comes in a distant second. I consider buying a share from the developer idiotic (as it can lose as much as half its value walking out the door), but your mileage may vary.

173   Randy H   2006 Oct 31, 8:35am  

*correct CG to GC, and so forth for all her aliases.

174   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 8:37am  

It probably makes no difference to the dead Ferrari driver or his friends/family, but no way he/she was driving an Enzo.

Anyway the world has one fewer reckless driver to worry about.

175   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 8:53am  

I am proud to be part of a great company that has continued to deliver tremendous VALUE to customers.

I agree Microsoft is probably one of the most important companies in recent human history. And they have stayed the course, unlike HP.

176   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 9:14am  

Maybe he/she wasn’t reckless. Maybe she got a flat! Or maybe a deer or a pedestrian jumped out in front of the car…

One should drive at a speed that is safe for the condition of the road. Unless the tree suddenly grow out of nowhere...

Why do you hate fast car drivers

I just hate juvenville behaviors.

Speed can be obtained safely with airplanes. For the price of an Enzo, you can almost get a Piper Malibu, which is faster and legal at high speed.

177   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 9:18am  

If this turns out to be true, that’s great news for anyone who can afford it, as fish is great for many health reasons, and the potential mercury has always been the bane of that diet.

Mercury is overhyped.

178   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 9:19am  

But one often has to go through that dangerous stage.

Why? And I speak as a sagittarian.

179   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 9:33am  

I don’t think his accident was speed-related though.

Why did it burst into flames?

One does not have to do street-racing to go fast. I have friends who do close to 100mph on public road regularly. I hope they get pulled over and have their licenses suspended before they have a chance to hurt themselves or others.

180   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 9:35am  

As you would say, it was fate.

True. This is why I was neither sad nor angry.

If he has done good things to the community, then it would have been more sad.

People die every day for silly reasons. The only thing that matters is what they have done in their lives.

181   skibum   2006 Oct 31, 9:38am  

TIME FOR A NEW THREAD: Where to park your horde of cash 2.0

182   Peter P   2006 Oct 31, 9:40am  

Peter P, with all due respect, please don’t shoot off without knowing the facts.

Fine, Sorry, I take it back. I do not know of many single-vehicle accidents in which the driver is not at fault.

You can hate me now.

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