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Definition of a Troll (more than you ever wanted to know).

I am not for banning Confused Renter, as long as he can give any factual information that I am not aware of, be it a certain house selling above asking, or a different website where I can track information better.

The other day he suggested a website called trulia that I was not aware of, and I have been using the data published on that site for tracking certain neighborhoods.

Since we are all bears, I actually like to have more bulls on this site so that I don't miss out on the bull's argument, especially if they are clever bulls. I am in an extreme anti-dollar position in my own investment portfolio, but I read dollar bull arguments all the time to make sure that I don't overlook any sound facts that may make me pay dearly in the market later.

However, I am for banning GC because he has nothing to offer, either bullish or bearish, except some pedophilic obsession that pops its head from time to time which has absolutely no value-add to what we are collectively interested in: where the housing market is heading, where the US economy is heading.

He can find better XXX sites to express his sexual frustration.

He can find better XXX sites to express his sexual frustration.

How about Mark Foley's homepage? [_ducks_]

However, I am for banning GC because he has nothing to offer, either bullish or bearish, except some pedophilic obsession that pops its head from time to time which has absolutely no value-add to what we are collectively interested in: where the housing market is heading, where the US economy is heading.

I do not think GC is a pedophile.

I agree that GC has joked about things that are insensitive. But I might have done the same as well.

"Just like our National savings rate" LOL!

As President of the Mortgage Brokers Association I give you my solemn promise that I won't rest until every last dime in home owner's equity is HELOC'd up to our collective eyeballs!

Great.

CG,

As the close relative of two Shanghai ke da physics graduates and relative of people who went just about everywhere in Shanghai except your alma mater, I must say I always thought Fudan's physics department was only so-so.

I have prejudices. I am arrogant sometimes. I am proud sometimes. And I boast quite often. So?

I think that should be fine.

When I posted a trade, it was real. I don’t urge people to take risks that I myself haven’t taken.

Do not forget a disclaimer though. :)

I voice some of my opinions which may make some people feel bad. So? You can do the same.

Go to greencrabs.blogspot.com as well. We are trying to make it a controversial food blog.

Please no flame wars in the thread on treatment of trolls. That's too narcissitically ironic for even me.

No flame war. Let's talk about flambée on astrid's blog.

Randy,

Sorry...

I love flambée.

I think my dream life include a butler who will flambée Steak Diane by the table side. Oh, Crepes Suzette too!

Contrarian opinion and emotional debate are not automatically cast as Trolling here. I have only been called a Troll a couple of times, and always by newcomers who didn't bother to read much. Yet I very often find myself on the other side of some of the hottest issues around here:

- The Fed and it's metrics
- US health and dominance
- Sticky prices
- Hard or Soft landing
- US regional inflation and regional health
- Hyperinflation, gold, deflation, gold, stagflation, gold
- The roles of men and women in work and family

I even authored an entire topic suggesting that we bubblehead bears should be gracious to the victims of the bubble bust, citing various reasons. I think I maybe had one supporter that entire thread.

I don't even call FAB a Troll, and he makes hunting me a daily sport.

Peter P,

Done!

CG,

My grandfather's elder brother was the Chancellor of Fudan, before the communists took over.

Fudan was never the Yale of China, in fact, Yale did have a semi-formal relationship with a university in China, it was called the St. John's University of Shanghai, not Fudan.

Do we need to prove trollish behaviors beyond reasonable doubt? Or do not only need a preponderance of the evidence?

As President of the Mortgage Brokers Association I give you my solemn promise that I won’t rest until every last dime in home owner’s equity is HELOC’d up to our collective eyeballs!

That's freedom you're talking about. Freeing that trapped equity so that it can be used for more productive things.

and by the way, GC, I'm long and bullish on MSFT aside from some thoughts I have about certain technologies. You can read my comments on a blog I syndicate through my own blog "The Software Blog (beta)", where I have been taking on the blog owner who is a Wall Street enterprise software financial analyst that continually hammers on MSFT. I've made about 40% by buying contrary to his recommendations, by the way.

Randy,

"I don’t even call FAB a Troll, and he makes hunting me a daily sport."

I really think you're more of a predator in that relationship and he's the prey.

I never thought FAB was a troll...he can be iconoclastic, but he's not a troll.

OO,

Well, you know how provincial the Chinese are with their schools. Shanghai students regularly turn off opportunities to attend Beida and Qinghua so they can stay in Shanghai and go to Jiaoda or Fudan.

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I have only been called a Troll a couple of times, and always by newcomers who didn’t bother to read much. Yet I very often find myself on the other side of some of the hottest issues around here

Randy,

Perhaps we should dedicate a thread to you and your least popular opinions. We could call it "Dr. StrangeBubble: Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bubble."

CG,

Ughh, Peking U and Qinghua are the top two. Fudan shares about the same reputation with one or two dozen other Chinese universities. I think it's more like a Duke or UCLA of China.

Nothing wrong with that, some people prefer Duke over Harvard, and most Shanghainese I know would prefer Fudan over Beida.

CG,
I'll ask my dad about Fudan's solid state physics. My dad ought to know something about it, he got his Ph.D in it, after all.

Should we have a flambee war between Berserkeley and Junior University?

(PS - apologies to all for *yet another threadjacking*)

CG,

My food blog (though I encourage contributors to think of it as "our blog") is greencrabs.blogspot.com.

CG,

I've always hear Beida-Qinghua as the English might say Oxbridge. Similarly, Fudan is usually spoken in the same phrase as Jiaoda, and often accompanying Tongji and Huadong Normal U.

I fail to see how Fudan is to Beida as Yale is to Harvard.

'one and the same'

see the Eggcorn Database

EU is interested because they want to nurse/protect their own software industry. So any move to blunt the edge of a major US software company is welcome.

I agree. The EU is pretty anti-market.

FAB's like one of those vampires or demons that turn to the light side for some reason in Buffy or Angel or sundry spinoffs -- but keep fighting within themselves and can't help reverting to their evil old ways once in a while...

I reserve my judgement regarding which one is better. I’ve heard many bashings of CE

I want a small palmtop computer with keyboard, wifi and Half XGA running Windows CE.

Why did they kill those palmtops? They are light (~1lb) and they turn on instantly.

But the whole undertaking also stalled Sony’s inroads into Home Entertainment and opened future possibilities for MS. So there are intangible benefits.

I am sensing a dark future for Sony. Who is still carrying a Walkman?

Not investment advice.

For whatever it is worth, patrick.net _IS_ one of the better known bubble blogs and is likely to be a target for subversion.

We need a Secret Police!

Randy H. wrote:

> I don’t even call FAB a Troll, and he
> makes hunting me a daily sport.

I’m happy to see that Randy doesn’t think I’m a Troll (even is we do disagree at times with the difference between “per capita” and “household” income and how it relates to historic income/housing price multiples and the impact of women joining the workforce on housing prices and family life) …

Then astrid wrote:

> I never thought FAB was a troll…
> he can be iconoclastic, but he’s not a troll.

I’m surprised that astrid feels I’m iconoclastic, since open minded people rarely have anything “closed for discussion”… (I’ve got to remember to keep adding a “but not all” to my posts).

Then DS wrote:

> FAB’s like one of those vampires or demons that
> turn to the light side for some reason in Buffy or
> Angel or sundry spinoffs — but keep fighting within
> themselves and can’t help reverting to their evil old
> ways once in a while…

As a libertarian my liberal friends are always happy when I support equal rights for everyone, the decimalization of drugs, and elimination any government regulation of the internet and radio and refer to my opposition of taxes and government regulation of business as my evil dark side (just like my conservative friends who like lower taxes and the government to stay away from their business can’t believe I have a evil dark side that would allow homos to be Boy Scout leaders, let people smoke pot at rock concerts and allow immoral adultery to be on TV at night)…

Do I hear cowardice from our ranks? Come on now, did the Germans give up when we bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! The asshole known as Confused Renter posts the same tired fucking diatribe on craigslist, why offer the Troll the opportunity for more attention? Is this something we aspire to be? A knock-off craigslist haven for BA assholes?

My friend’s husband is with a start up that makes tiny computers that run Windows and stuff.

The beauty of Windows CE machines is that they run 12+ hours on a charge and they take almost no time to boot up.

However, they run very few applications. But most people need only a web browser and an e-mail client anyway.

The fact that the regulars here are unlikely to fall for a RE-pumper is irrelevant. Trolls aren’t out to convince us - it is the general message that they want to weaken.

Maybe a solution is the be more vigilant for their lies from an admin/threadmaster standpoint and delete posts that are blatantly misleading.