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ICE officers are ready to round up and deport a million illegals, Trump official says
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2019 Jul 9, 3:57am 2,958 views 57 comments
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SunnyvaleCA
2019 Jul 9, 11:40pm
clambo says
Huh? I'm in full agreement of you. What are you talking about? To whitt: "to collect $30k in various state taxes they would need an adjusted gross income of $180k/year and to be paying full property taxes on a $1.2 MM house. Is that really typical for the people sneaking across the border?"
sunnyvale's proposal is absurd
Huh? I'm in full agreement of you. What are you talking about? To whitt: "to collect $30k in various state taxes they would need an adjusted gross income of $180k/year and to be paying full property taxes on a $1.2 MM house. Is that really typical for the people sneaking across the border?"
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Patrick
2019 Jul 10, 3:22am
Patrick
2019 Jul 10, 3:22am
Hugolas_Madurez says
Right! They have already shown bad faith by breaking into the US. They have proven that they do not respect our laws.
I have a problem with rewarding crime.
There are plenty of qualified people with valuable skills who are going through the correct legal process for citizenship. The people who cut in line by jumping the border are shitting on those good people.
Quigley saysI’m mostly in agreement with Wookieman. Give those who have shown good faith a path to citizenship
Fuck, no.
Right! They have already shown bad faith by breaking into the US. They have proven that they do not respect our laws.
I have a problem with rewarding crime.
There are plenty of qualified people with valuable skills who are going through the correct legal process for citizenship. The people who cut in line by jumping the border are shitting on those good people.
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zzyzzx
2019 Jul 10, 8:18am
zzyzzx
2019 Jul 10, 8:18am
WookieMan says
Wages will go up. Traffic will be less. Housing costs will be lower.
removing a million people will bring some shock to the economy.
Wages will go up. Traffic will be less. Housing costs will be lower.
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Hircus
2019 Jul 10, 10:13am
Hircus
2019 Jul 10, 10:13am
I agree w/ the idea that there needs to be repercussions to discourage it. If we reward it, or don't punish it, it will continue to flourish.
But, I also feel that suddenly deporting, say ~500k from CA would be a serious hit to the top illegal labor industries, such as agriculture. I have no doubt that farm wages would rise, and new labor would be found, but I think gradually doing this would be much better than some sudden wave. If we did it quickly, I think it would cause utter mayhem, and many businesses would fold due to not having the resources or business model to quickly adapt. If we do it gradually, then the labor would be replaced with some combo of existing citizens shifting jobs + existing citizens entering workforce + new LEGAL immigrants + new John Deere equipment ... 4 very good things. Some businesses would still fold, but new businesses would rise or expand.
With that said, I also think getting mass public support for deporting and replacing millions would be tough. My general feeling is that people don't see most of them as criminals, as they feel illegal immigration is an "understandable" crime on the level of jaywalking (everyone does it, mostly because it's not really enforced).
But, that idea of a punishment tax ... that sounds more realistic to me.
I've always felt that we could give employers new tools to help them verify, and be more aggressive about fining them heavily when they violate and hire illegals. They hire illegals because the economics make sense, so we just need to change the economics of it. I bet we could accomplish that for a reasonable price. We could also make a snitch reward, where citizens are given $$ for successfully tipping off ICE, creating a huge, inexpensive enforcement team that gets deep into the cracks.
But, I also feel that suddenly deporting, say ~500k from CA would be a serious hit to the top illegal labor industries, such as agriculture. I have no doubt that farm wages would rise, and new labor would be found, but I think gradually doing this would be much better than some sudden wave. If we did it quickly, I think it would cause utter mayhem, and many businesses would fold due to not having the resources or business model to quickly adapt. If we do it gradually, then the labor would be replaced with some combo of existing citizens shifting jobs + existing citizens entering workforce + new LEGAL immigrants + new John Deere equipment ... 4 very good things. Some businesses would still fold, but new businesses would rise or expand.
With that said, I also think getting mass public support for deporting and replacing millions would be tough. My general feeling is that people don't see most of them as criminals, as they feel illegal immigration is an "understandable" crime on the level of jaywalking (everyone does it, mostly because it's not really enforced).
But, that idea of a punishment tax ... that sounds more realistic to me.
I've always felt that we could give employers new tools to help them verify, and be more aggressive about fining them heavily when they violate and hire illegals. They hire illegals because the economics make sense, so we just need to change the economics of it. I bet we could accomplish that for a reasonable price. We could also make a snitch reward, where citizens are given $$ for successfully tipping off ICE, creating a huge, inexpensive enforcement team that gets deep into the cracks.
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WillPowers
2019 Jul 10, 3:25pm
WillPowers
2019 Jul 10, 3:25pm
WookieMan says
Yeah, it's a net gain for the corporations that need lots of cheap unskilled labor. It's a boon for them, but a drag for Americans who need a low paid job to survive if they can't find one.
Illegals are a drag, but I'm guessing if you did the math, it's probably a net gain economy wise if they stay.
Yeah, it's a net gain for the corporations that need lots of cheap unskilled labor. It's a boon for them, but a drag for Americans who need a low paid job to survive if they can't find one.
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zzyzzx
2019 Jul 11, 9:49am
zzyzzx
2019 Jul 11, 9:49am
Every democrat who advocates for sanctuary cities is complicit in all the crime committed by illegal aliens already ordered for deportation.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Jul 11, 10:09am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Jul 11, 10:09am
Trump is pure genius. There's absolutely no way he can deport 1 million people in two days. He should have just said, he would deport all 11 million plus illegals in this country.
So rather than the Democrats laughing at him and saying. "Oh yeah? Show me!" They are going out of their way to virtue signal to a group of people that shouldn't even be allowed to vote. They are playing into Trump's hand of dejecting the American voters to placate a group of people that shouldn't have the right to vote. This will go on through July of next year. Then I expect Trump to drop some game changing election rules that prohibit even just ONE illegal vote.
Trump comes out smelling like a rose to his base, because he would have deported 11 million illegals if not for those Commie Libs.
So rather than the Democrats laughing at him and saying. "Oh yeah? Show me!" They are going out of their way to virtue signal to a group of people that shouldn't even be allowed to vote. They are playing into Trump's hand of dejecting the American voters to placate a group of people that shouldn't have the right to vote. This will go on through July of next year. Then I expect Trump to drop some game changing election rules that prohibit even just ONE illegal vote.
Trump comes out smelling like a rose to his base, because he would have deported 11 million illegals if not for those Commie Libs.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Jul 11, 10:14am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Jul 11, 10:14am
My bet would be, Trump doesn't do anything major to Election laws nor Immigrants until after the Democrat primaries.
Then he will fix both of those issues for good. That way the same illegal votes that will eventually carry one of the Socialist candidates over to the nomination. Wont be around to vote in the General election. And again, the Bernie butthurters will sit the election out.
Then he will fix both of those issues for good. That way the same illegal votes that will eventually carry one of the Socialist candidates over to the nomination. Wont be around to vote in the General election. And again, the Bernie butthurters will sit the election out.
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Booger
2019 Jul 14, 8:10am
Booger
2019 Jul 14, 8:10am
Acting ICE director wants politicians in sanctuary cities charged with crimes!!!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/acting-ice-director-wants-politicians-in-sanctuary-cities-charged-with-crimes/
He also says politicians should be held "personally accountable" for crimes committed by people living in the U.S. illegally.
Homan says, "We've got to start charging some of these politicians with crimes."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/acting-ice-director-wants-politicians-in-sanctuary-cities-charged-with-crimes/
He also says politicians should be held "personally accountable" for crimes committed by people living in the U.S. illegally.
Homan says, "We've got to start charging some of these politicians with crimes."
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2019 Jul 14, 8:11am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2019 Jul 14, 8:11am
On the Sunday Fox news show, was Ben Ray Lujan, the head of the Hispanic caucus in the House, which is basically an ethnic or racial minority caucus based upon having a Spanish culture. So it can include white people, descendants of white slave owners (Marco Rubio), descendants of the butcherers of the Central and South American Indians, Indians and descendants of the butchered Indians ((Julian Castro) including descendants of cannibals (Carib, Julian Castro?).
The caucus represents Americans of Spanish heritage, and illegal alien citizens of Spanish heritage of other countries, and encompasses primarily mestizos and Indians, who are always the tug-at-your-heart poster children of the oppressive system. But also whites, including Germans and Italians who happened to have settled in Central and South America, e.g., Argentina, almost totally European folks. Also blacks (bottom of the rung, or maybe pure Indians are?) and surprisingly, Asians.
By the standards of this bogus group, the Irish and folks in India would be of the same ethnicity, and even race, by virtue of having been colonized by England, intermarried, and having adopted elements of English culture. So it is a bogus group on its very basis, but it is used effectively by folks who want special treatment, like affirmative action, no borders and no ICE, and who command s good amount of so self-identified voters.
Lujan could have been Italian or Spanish, or a descendant of a white Spanish butcherer, but he was laying on the racism card very thick. But it's not a race.
The caucus represents Americans of Spanish heritage, and illegal alien citizens of Spanish heritage of other countries, and encompasses primarily mestizos and Indians, who are always the tug-at-your-heart poster children of the oppressive system. But also whites, including Germans and Italians who happened to have settled in Central and South America, e.g., Argentina, almost totally European folks. Also blacks (bottom of the rung, or maybe pure Indians are?) and surprisingly, Asians.
By the standards of this bogus group, the Irish and folks in India would be of the same ethnicity, and even race, by virtue of having been colonized by England, intermarried, and having adopted elements of English culture. So it is a bogus group on its very basis, but it is used effectively by folks who want special treatment, like affirmative action, no borders and no ICE, and who command s good amount of so self-identified voters.
Lujan could have been Italian or Spanish, or a descendant of a white Spanish butcherer, but he was laying on the racism card very thick. But it's not a race.
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RWSGFY
2019 Jul 14, 2:54pm
RWSGFY
2019 Jul 14, 2:54pm
Biden was approached by a Spanish-speaking man who claimed his brother had been deported during the Obama years. The man used a female translator to tell Biden his story and asked him to apologize for supporting such policies. He also asked if Biden would support halting deportations of illegal immigrants entirely.
“I have a three-month-old daughter and two months ago, in May, I was detained and put into deportation proceedings,” the man said. "I want you to apologize to the three million immigrants that were deported and separated from their families under the Obama years.”
Biden stood firm, however, and said he would not be apologizing and would not be supporting a policy that ends deportations outright.
"No," he replied, "I will not halt deportations and detentions.” Protestors continued to chant and demanded an apology but Biden remained intransigent.
“I have a three-month-old daughter and two months ago, in May, I was detained and put into deportation proceedings,” the man said. "I want you to apologize to the three million immigrants that were deported and separated from their families under the Obama years.”
Biden stood firm, however, and said he would not be apologizing and would not be supporting a policy that ends deportations outright.
"No," he replied, "I will not halt deportations and detentions.” Protestors continued to chant and demanded an apology but Biden remained intransigent.
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Onvacation
2019 Jul 14, 4:23pm
Onvacation
2019 Jul 14, 4:23pm
Trump's trolling again.
He wants to make sure that everyone knows that his opponents over border control care more about criminal illegal aliens than law abiding US citizens.
He wants to make sure that everyone knows that his opponents over border control care more about criminal illegal aliens than law abiding US citizens.
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Onvacation
2019 Jul 14, 7:40pm
Onvacation
2019 Jul 14, 7:40pm
TrumpingTits says
Sad.
I was, however, introduced to Tulsi. There is hope for the party of JFK, not so much for the party of Johnson and Hillary.
the Dem debates?
Sad.
I was, however, introduced to Tulsi. There is hope for the party of JFK, not so much for the party of Johnson and Hillary.
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komputodo
2019 Jul 14, 7:59pm
komputodo
2019 Jul 14, 7:59pm
how do you round up 1 million people? how do you transport 1 million people? how long would it take to transport 1 million people? Do the math...I don't see it happening.....trump is trolling the dems again...lol
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Jul 14, 9:13pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Jul 14, 9:13pm
komputodo says
Every time he trolls them, there is a huge spike in TDS and stupid behavior on the left. Gotta give it to him, he knows how to piss them off.
how do you round up 1 million people? how do you transport 1 million people? how long would it take to transport 1 million people? Do the math...I don't see it happening.....trump is trolling the dems again...lol
Every time he trolls them, there is a huge spike in TDS and stupid behavior on the left. Gotta give it to him, he knows how to piss them off.
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RC2006
2019 Jul 14, 9:18pm
RC2006
2019 Jul 14, 9:18pm
komputodo says
He takes over FedEx and ups and overnights them back in boxes.
how do you round up 1 million people? how do you transport 1 million people? how long would it take to transport 1 million people? Do the math...I don't see it happening.....trump is trolling the dems again...lol
He takes over FedEx and ups and overnights them back in boxes.
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This is good news.
Illegal immigrants drive down wages for the poorest American citizens, with lots of help from the US Chamber of Commerce, appropriately abbreviated as the CoC. The CoC, which is basically the bosses' union, cares about nothing but business profits and are more than willing to push US citizens further into poverty to do it.
The election of Trump was in large part resistance to the CoC's assault on Americans.