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jazz_music says

Ohhhh, the weather!

Let's have the "definition of climate" debate!

The dictionary defines climate as the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years.

So climate is the history of weather.

Like the weather the climate is changing all of the time. We have gone through ice ages and warm periods much warmer than now. During the warm periods life prospered. During the cold periods life suffered. Where would you rather live in an arctic tundra or a tropical rainforest?

Don’t forget skiing in Tahoe in June!

jazz_music says

Ohhhh, the weather!

But if it was a mild winter: Hooo boy, look at the Global Warming evidence!

It's fucking cold in Arizona. I guess not even the desert can help GW. I'll have to move to the islands to keep Global Warming from freezing my ass four months of the year.

Germany forced to rely on non-renewable energy after cold snap froze renewables
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqM9OIPzMHs

@zzyzzx,

this is live CO2 emission map: https://www.electricitymap.org/ranking

Germany with its "renewable" and "green" electricity production emits tons more CO2 than France, which uses nucular. Green energy is bad for environment....

Rb6d says

@zzyzzx,

this is live CO2 emission map: https://www.electricitymap.org/ranking

Germany with its "renewable" and "green" electricity production emits tons more CO2 than France....

... and to do so sends billions of dollars to Putin for the privilege to suck natgas out of his dick.

If they start up with the global warming thing again, remind them that "China accounts for 28 percent of all global CO2 emissions. And China continues to build coal-fired power plants at a rate that outpaces the rest of the world combined."

https://e360.yale.edu/features/despite-pledges-to-cut-emissions-china-goes-on-a-coal-spree

jazz_music says

Ohhhh, the weather!

Hahahaha hoo boy!

Incredible!

It might take you several decades, and you may never learn, but to follow the science is to fit a model to observation - not the other way around.

I fully believed in the "global warming hysteria" that started in 1985 and I believed it up until 2005. That's 20 years. I still held on to a bit for another 10 years, until I fully abandoned it as bullshit.

There is no model that makes anything close to accurate predictions. I'm not joking when I say I really can run a simulation of a Cray Supercomputer at my desk. Many people can't and don't realize it - what I can't do is run a fucking climate model because none is available.

All the shit I was taught about with SF flooding and NYC being underwater by 2000 I fully believed and dreaded as a young engineering student in the late 1980s. It turned out to be a complete lie.

It's been 35 years of bullshit, and I thought I was slow to realize it was bullshit. Took me 20 years to find out they were full of crap, and 30 to realize with certainty they are.

I remember thinking "scientists couldn't get away with lying" - and they can't - but our "news" media gets away with lying about what scientists claim.

Now there's a new crop of poor gullible kids believing the world is going to end in 10 more years. They'll figure it out quicker than I did because they have more data. The question is - will people like you ever figure it out?

There are many reasons why the global warming hoax is fake bullshit.

The first and easiest to understand is the assumption that the output of energy from the sun is constant, like the wattage of a lightbulb. So, if the earth temperature varies from the “normal”, “something caused it, WE caused it!”

Except, the assumption is wrong; the energy output of the sun varies, particularly cosmic rays.
At CERN in Switzerland, they created clouds with cosmic rays.
This experiment proved that cosmic rays can vastly influence the weather.

After this and the revelations on wikileaks about fraud hockey sticks and Al Gore making money from the issue, I’m convinced it’s all bullshit.

Last year, many states along the east coast set a record during late spring frost. For some states, it came a full month later than their previous record in May! This isn't the type of thing that supposed to happen in a "rapidly warming" planet. Temperature, on average is increasing approximately a degree per 100 years. It's been doing this for a long long time prior to fossil fuels. For the life of me, I can't understand how they convinced all this bitches that are the biggest pussies in the world who complain about how cold it is during the winter that living conditions somehow fall apart with an average temp of 2 degrees higher in the year 2200.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/15/the-deadly-heat-wave-of-july-1936-in-the-middle-of-arguably-the-hottest-decade-on-record-for-the-us/

Rb6d says

Germany with its "renewable" and "green" electricity production emits tons more CO2 than France, which uses nucular. Green energy is bad for environment....

Just wait until all the CO2 emissions from having to dredge those 30M deep Wind Turbine Foundations up out of the ground... and dispose of the Carbon Fiber/High Tech materials that make up the Turbine - can't be incinerated at all.

I started taking my styrofoam cup with me everywhere just to dare somebody to start shit with me, and get a lecture.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

I mean we are what? 98.6ºF. Probably should be about what we exhaust.

I don't get why warming is bad. Never understood it. Water level changes by the movement of tectonic plates. Of the land (soil) with ice it's a nothing burger if it melts. If anything places like Canada get a better or longer growing season. I don't get when people don't understand ground water. Unfrozen tundra can now absorb 80% of the precipitation allowing more growth. It doesn't go into oceans.

All water level change is almost exclusively because of land movement. And IWOGS old wet bulb BS. So you go outside in a sauna. Come inside to your AC. Our biggest threat is not having enough electric more than anything. Erosion and shit will happen on shorelines, but that's not water level rise.

Either way they've been wrong for at least 50 years at this point.

China - over a billion humans breathing emits CO2
India - over a billion humans breathing emits CO2
Half of world population.
If global warming is a problem, we should see effects first in those areas.

REpro says

If global warming is a problem, we should see effects first in those areas.

The effect from additional CO2 put in the air is that plants grow faster. That has been proven many times over the years with high school AP class terrarium experiments.