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Freedom is not always civil. Don’t know if it’ll work.
I don't think those are equivalent
If we start color coding everything, hiding posts under warnings
Oligarchy keeps winning by keeping us from activism, divided.
Allow downvotes in two modes:
So Freedom has been removed from the theme.
hiding posts under warnings, or deleting posts because of nebulous "good will", then site will change for worse, I think.
the problem when about half of people are for civil discourse and the other half is win by any means, it doesn't end well for the civil discourse folks.
covid_shmovid sayswhat kind of "activism" you propose we do together, united?Whatever it takes.
2) the downvotes only count if there's a response from the person who downvoted it.
You get to beef up enforcement and eliminate laws that bar defacto acts of martial law and unconstitutional use of the American military power against Americans.
jazz_music saysYou get to beef up enforcement and eliminate laws that bar defacto acts of martial law and unconstitutional use of the American military power against Americans.
Serious question. Where has this happened? Think about it.
The color coding was just for some page with a list of articles.
Emergency powers act needs to be struck down because it provides a framework for those things I mentioned and even worse.
Is that possible with RepCons?
Trump is in their way, and his supporters are the American Left's target.
We should be unified against our common enemy, The People's Front of Judea!
rd6B sayshiding posts under warnings, or deleting posts because of nebulous "good will", then site will change for worse, I think.
Well, let's see what happens.
It's something I just have to try. The riots convinced me that we are getting nowhere with the partisan tribalism fomented by the media.
Can I no longer say Fuck Scum RepCons in this new site of no Freedom.
There are many ideas that we will never agree on. The left and the right have different ways of approaching governance, based on contrasting philosophies. But many of the ultimate goals — economic prosperity, better health care and education, etc. — are the same. We just don’t share the same vision of how to achieve them.- Dan Crenshaw
Maybe the main thing should be unifying vs divisive. That may be even more important than civility.
richwicks saysAllow downvotes in two modes:
I'll automatically downvote the reply someone makes to justify their downvote of my original post.
More balance would improve the site.
How does following a cult make you qualified to diagnose all non-cultists as deranged as soon as you criticize the demigod leader?
From the same article in Quora
https://www.quora.com/Has-the-US-ever-used-military-power-against-its-citizens
jazz_music saysFrom the same article in Quora
https://www.quora.com/Has-the-US-ever-used-military-power-against-its-citizens
What does that have to do with the topic? Why are you posting it in this thread?
richwicks saysjazz_music saysFrom the same article in Quora
https://www.quora.com/Has-the-US-ever-used-military-power-against-its-citizens
What does that have to do with the topic? Why are you posting it in this thread?
Agreed nothing to do with it
I vote to moderate VERY CAREFULLY.
Have a line that people can't cross (I suggest to block anyone who consistently denigrates the Constitution and/or the Bill of Rights), give X number of warnings and then block their IP address.
Agreed but we need to also establish ideas to discuss that are worth everyone's time and input. For example discussing mandatory body cameras on cops and protocols for other officers witnessing malpractice without even mentioning race as it is neither part of the problem nor the solution would be a thread that could be discussed rationally and without unscientific distractions.
richwicks saysWhat does that have to do with the topic? Why are you posting it in this thread?A direct response to the question from wookieman.
mell saysAgreed but we need to also establish ideas to discuss that are worth everyone's time and input. For example discussing mandatory body cameras on cops and protocols for other officers witnessing malpractice without even mentioning race as it is neither part of the problem nor the solution would be a thread that could be discussed rationally and without unscientific distractions.
I would disagree because who is to determine what subject is worth somebody's time?
Here's a suggestion though - let us mute (ignore) topics on the main page. For example (and no offense to the person posting it)
https://www.patrick.net/post/1331911/2020-05-01-help-me-save-my-neighbor
I will never contribute to that thread, and I'm not particularly interested in t...
richwicks says2) the downvotes only count if there's a response from the person who downvoted it.
Yes, with civility rules this could be good. Maybe "dislike" should require a comment to explain why. So you click dislike, and it puts a quote of that comment in the comment box starting with: "Patrick disliked: ..."
You have violated our terms and services - please search through here to guess randomly which one of them you think it might be. If you do not think you have violated the terms and services, you may hire a lawyer of which we have 2,000 to argue in court.
We are an open platform.
Nobody needs to determine if a thread is worthy but if you start such a thread you can basically say that you will delete all posts containing race and ban the person from the thread if necessary so you can keep a scientific and rational discussion that leads to solution and ideas instead of blaming the boogeyman.
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So no more pictures of Trump as an insane clown or talk of his being raped by Putin. That does not address his policies specifically and helps nothing. It just divides us.
And no more phrases like "liberals". That immediately eliminates the possibility of a liberal wanting to have a polite discussion of his point of view here. Again, it just divides us.
We need unity, not more division. E pluribus unum.
I'm just going to flag posts and comments I find to be stirring up hate and division. Don't worry, you'll know what that means, and the author will be able to click the "edit" button to see just what it was that got the post or comment flagged. It will be clear and fair.
Yes, it's a kind of censorship, but my hope is that it will make this site more useful to people of good will who really want to understand their fellow citizens and improve life. While the MSM routinely censors "offensive" ideas like the Red Pill theory, or our innate differences by sex and race, I'm not going to do that. All ideas are still open for discussion in a civil manner. The tag-line "Freedom to Offend" was not being understood as I intended. It seemed to be generating posts that were deliberately and angrily offensive.
Sorry if it seems like the food-fight is over. Everyone is still very welcome to have their say, just treat others as you would wish to be treated, including other political parties and public figures, and you'll still be able to make any point you want.