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mell saysThe east coast never has these devastating fires, neither does Europe, despite similar climate.
Way to compare fire behavior in climates with 10 inches of rain in a good year to ones that get 40-80 inches a year. Do you want to bow out gracefully as uninformed on this topic, dig yourself deeper, or start treating the subject matter seriously?
just_adhom_preaching saysthe SF bay area is was at least somewhat green year around ...No photos but there are some interesting paintings.
Paintings, solid objective source. I remember touring the Huntington as a kid, there was a painting that the tour explained was rejected by the original patron because the artist was REALLY good at painting clouds but the patron didn't want his daughter's fancy wedding day depicted as cloudy. No word on whether...
What? Sicily, parts of France and Spain have very similar climate.Greece as well. When. Is the last time you've heard of devastating fires there?
prove afterward that they are not an idiot.
years of bad forest management is what has caused the horrible wildfires.
Our leftist enviro-geniuses here out West do the same stupid shit with wildlife management.
it is pointed out that 100% burn to bare earth does not prevent out of control fires on the exact same land the very next year.
area previously burned either by controlled burn or by wild fire do not see as high flames as they do in the "virgin" areas.
Eric Holder saysarea previously burned either by controlled burn or by wild fire do not see as high flames as they do in the "virgin" areas.
The area around Calabasas had "high enough flames" to burn out of control for days and jump the 10 lane interstate 101 two years in a row, so again you're engaging the topic with some levels of abstraction and fantasy regarding fire behavior and control strategies.
Superficial talking points that bear little to no connection to the topic are just that.
The area around Calabasas had "high enough flames" to burn out of control for days and jump the 10 lane interstate 101 two years in a row,
A friend showed me his burned out family property near Boulder Creek on some cell phone movies. He said there were seeds scattered everywhere in response to the fires when he went up to inspect. The houses on the courts nearby were all lost.
There was a footage of some burned-out neighborhood in Santa Rosa with houses completely gone but mature trees standing intact. My personal takeaway from all this covfefe is that we need to allow small shit to burn
You keep saying "bad forest management
I can try to help you.
a snarky dismissive attitude,
Where is the non left wing plan for managing California's wildlands "better?"
left wing plan for managing California's wildlands
Show me some actual research and successful case studies of fire prevention methods.
preventing things like removing dead trees because of the Green Farting Tree Frog.
(Link) California does not manage its forests well.
just_adhom_preaching saysOur leftist enviro-geniuses here out West do the same stupid shit with wildlife management.
And you have run out of talking points to throw at the wildland management discussion, so you've pivoted to another partisanized talking point on a different topic to maintain your schema of "other sportsball team bad, our shit doesn't stink."
NoCoupForYou sayspreventing things like removing dead trees because of the Green Farting Tree Frog.
Introducing ridiculous straw man ideas means you don't have anything meaningful to add to the discussion.
I've suggested starting with a cost/benefit analysis of clearing sufficient fire breaks initially then with maintenance every year after, at varying levels of certainty of preventing runaway fires. I'm betting it won't take too many years to reach and exceed the original cost of property losses in fires, while struggling to reduce fire damages below 50% of current time weighted averages.
you mention you have land around grapevine. Maybe you're worried
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