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This is why it is important to control the state legislatures. There is no national constitutional standard for "voting" - it is all up to the dictates of the state government as a power set aside to the states. So, can't change that. When one follows what has been happening legally in MI, WI, PA - the entire goal is to generate ballots that cannot be challenged (hence the removal of signature check, address check, postmark, etc...and so you simply "dump" some filled out ballots in a strong Biden county.) Easy peasy. And, the refusal to count mail in ballots until election day was simply to make sure they know how many ballots to "generate".

Too funny. Just remember the old "left" which was "liberal" no longer exists. We are talking about an authoritarian DEM party that wants to suppress free speech, second amendment rights, and ship jobs overseas to benefit the elites.

I'm following now https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html for MI which seems to be doing slower counting and is refreshing every 10 minutes. Will be interesting to see if they arrive at the same count as the MSM who already report 96% counted in MI. Trump has a 250k lead here currently.

Nomograph says

That's just my opinion.

Well, if this is IWOG, welcome back. I always enjoyed your posts and thoughts on the economy and real estate in particular!

krc says

Too funny. Just remember the old "left" which was "liberal" no longer exists. We are talking about an authoritarian DEM party that wants to suppress free speech, second amendment rights, and ship jobs overseas to benefit the elites.

Their model is the Chinese Communist Party.

Considering how Democrats rig their own primaries, why don't you think they would cheat in a general election as well?

Who is throwing a tantrum dude? We're pointing out inaccuracies and anomalies in certain places. Almost everyone here has said whatever if Biden wins. I'd expect the left to question things too and if they found something illegal then it needs to be fixed. I'd stop fixating on the candidates and look more at what happened.

What if there was voter fraud in PA and Trump ends up winning? Every one, including me as a Trump voter would be upset. We need accurate elections. ID required. It's an extremely low bar to clear. Money and travel are a poor excuse. Figure it out.

NoCoupForYou says

n the Early Morning, 138k absentee votes, almost all for Biden

not almost all, but all.

No tantrums here either. It is what it is. REP party just needs to make the same adjustments in states they control in the future.
But, clearly, the expected DEM wave did not happen. Biden "may" squeak through, but it is no "mandate". Hopefully with a close house, REP senate, there can be some compromise. We will see...
I still have hope that trump can carry since in the states he won he has actually carried more counties. Very odd about WI/MI. We will see about PA.

Nomograph says

In my opinion, this site lost it's way because it was allowed to devolve into an alt-right echo chamber and most of the folks who posted interesting content left.

That's just my opinion.

And that's just it. Every site on the planet is an echo chamber by default to some extent. I'd love to learn to sail. So I go to the echo chamber that is sailing channels and watch them every night.

Same thing with aviation. I don't go to Patnet for that.

This site is very much free flowing though. We've got threads on music, porn basically, real estate, finances and a ton of random strange topics. Maybe just avoid the political ones if you don't like it? Or don't make the non-political topics political. Covid comes to mind. If everyone was 100% honest on the left, they know they helped to politicize it in an attempt to bring down Trump. Looks like it may have worked. Some topics on this site are there to counteract that politicization though. Lying is bad and good people don't sit by and let it happen.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I've liked this site for a long time for its off topic/color posting and some good nuggets that have influenced me in a positive way. Ignore the negative and avoid diving in the mud. Some users like that I guess.

Nomograph says

WookieMan says

Who is throwing a tantrum dude?

Latching on to any and every conspiracy theory in order to prevent dealing with reality is an adult form of a tantrum, I reckon.

So questioning something that finished what, 16-18 hours ago is a conspiracy theory out the gate? I don't follow. By that logic, we should question nothing and just accept things, even if they look a bit peculiar on the surface immediately after it happens. That's a scary outlook on life.

Nomograph says

Latching on to any and every conspiracy theory in order to prevent dealing with reality is an adult form of a tantrum, I reckon.

I don't see any conspiracy theories. It is simply a set of rules by DEM state legislatures enacted in the last two months ensuring a Biden victory. I don't think that is a conspiracy - just a party that controls a state doing its job as enablers. Good for them .

The problem is the REP party did not do the same in the states they controlled - that is the real problem. Outside of Trump, the REP party as a whole is pretty weak.

As to trumping tits post:
Still haven't heard a rationale as of why https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html has a massive 250k share lead for Trump with far fewer votes than the MSM is reporting. it seems like some MI vote counts may have been "fat fingered "and have been retracted.

TrumpingTits says

mell says

As to trumping tits post:

Which post? I have been posting a lot of them just like you and the guy behind that tree. :)

The rumor of the (deliberate?) "fat finger". It would explain why the official secretary of state MI site has trump in a wide lead with far fewer votes counted.

krc says

Outside of Trump, the REP party as a whole is pretty weak

This is somewhat valid. Reality is the right has more Libertarian in their blood by a long shot than anyone of the left. We don't want government, so we're less interested in it. If you like government, you vote Democrat.

Problem is the government employs a fuck load of people. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot to vote right if they're employed by big government. Democrats are government that pays for its votes through employment and contracts. Right leaning folks just want to run a business and have government get the fuck out of the way and take more money home at the end of the day.

Both spend like drunken sailors of course. And both can be bought off.

why are you guys wasting your time arguing with nomograph?

komputodo says

why are you guys wasting your time arguing with nomograph?

Bored.

komputodo says

why are you guys wasting your time arguing with nomograph?

Because he is willing to argue.
Trolling is a two way street. It requires a willing recipient.

komputodo says

why are you guys wasting your time arguing with nomograph?

Agree with CCP. Although I don't think my comments come across as arguing. Nomo clearly wants Biden to win, which is fine. I wanted Trump. At the end of the day I don't really care and the single word bored sums it up pretty well by CCP. Better to dick around here instead of reading or watching MSM and that agenda. This will all get worked out and I think most here will deal and not burn shit down because of it.

Nomograph says

komputodo says

why are you guys wasting your time arguing with nomograph?

How is a discussion of real, verifiable evidence "trolling?"

Besides where else can we get an honest discussion like this without all PC bullshit? Only on patnet where it gets real.

Left seems to be obsessed with QAnon. I, on the other hand, haven't a slightest idea what it is, being right-wing nutjob at all... Weird, isn't it?

Nomograph says

It's our turn to fuck shit up now. Get over it :)

"Your" side has been fucking up shit since 2001. CIA is running the nation again - well, in 2 months.

I wonder how long after that Assad will suddenly and inexplicably go back to "gassing his own people" again?

Anyhow, BLM and Antifa will magically disappear. You can kiss the 1st amendment goodbye, and the independent press is gone. Congratulations.

socal2 says

*IF* Trump loses, I think he will declassify everything about the Russia Hoax and Biden's manifest corruption shaking down countries for political gain.

Doesn't matter. He's declassified a ton of stuff, and it's STILL not released.

Uh oh, the narrative is starting to change a bit. PA to Trump and then watch AZ......

CIA is running the nation again - well, in 2 months.

I say China. China has the carrot of allowing access to their giant market to those who play along (Disney, Apple, Alphabet) and bias the media, plus outright bribes to politicians (Biden, Boxley, Pelosi, and many others) along with honey traps and other compromises. With Biden/Harris in power, expect to see all sanctions and tariffs lifted and a new flood of off-shoring. I would not be surprised to see the US start importing Chinese made gas and electric cars.

HeadSet says

CIA is running the nation again - well, in 2 months.

I say China. China has the carrot of allowing access to their giant market to those who play along (Disney, Apple, Alphabet) and bias the media, plus outright bribes to politicians (Biden, Boxley, Pelosi, and many others) along with honey traps and other compromises. With Biden/Harris in power, expect to see all sanctions and tariffs lifted and a new flood of off-shoring. I would not be surprised to see the US start importing Chinese made gas and electric cars.

CIA/China - no difference.

The CIA is just the intelligence of the criminal syndicate that runs the nation. Of course, all tariffs will be lifted. We'll go back to war with Syria soon enough as well.

I think his biggest failure was to ensure elections were fair, and accurate - and it was his undoing.

www.youtube.com/embed/MA8a2g6tTp0

Nomograph says

2. Failure to provide effective and uniting leadership during BLM.

I only agree on that part of part 2 that I quoted. He should have sent in military and manhandled those BLM fucks. I was disappointed that those commie fucks were not shot and everyone in government literally walked on egg shells around them. Even fucking Republicans were ready to take pants off and bend over, Democrats of course kneeled like bitches and pleasured BLMers in every way they could.

His only failure is not putting a stop to all of the gas lighting, deflection and projection, dishonest crooked media, and the misuse of office to go after him.
He allowed a lot of bullshit, like Fauci being the Chinese Pawn to usher in the Chinese CCP Flu Plague which is just Commie propaganda that plays a Global pandemic on TV.
He should have kicked Fauci in the ass and sent him packing. Called for a Sick Audit during the corona scare. Issued Cease and desist order to media that presented clear and present dangers to our democracy, and allowed those colluding to overthrow our government to do so even though it's been painfully and blatantly obvious.

TrumpingTits says

Some say he's Iwog. But I think he's just a former troll who used to barf on PatNet back in the day when Patrick was a libbie who let them.

Patrick would know more, but pretty sure Iwog has/had multiple accounts. Still likely does. It frankly is a bit disturbing, but whatever, I won't lose sleep over it. I'm convinced there are users with multiple accounts here that literally create arguments against themselves with multiple accounts to stir the shit. I'm sure there's a name for this tactic, but I don't know it.

If its close, say 272 to 266 were going to have to worry about faithless electors on both sides....

Several jurisdictions and states > 100% voter participation.

Onvacation says

Nomograph says

Conspiracy theories tend to collapse under the weight of their own complexity.

Kind of like WTC7.

Oh pshaw! Of course 19 hijackers from across the world were able to penetrate the most highly guarded airspace in all of the United States to fly a plane into the headquarters of the the department of defense.

What's suspicious about that??

foxnews pretty much called it for Biden already.

Trump has no way to get 270 if Michigan and Wisconsin go blue, and they are blue according to what's on fox.

I will add, not one world, state or local leader that resisted the NGO's calls to shut down their economies and take the CCP Hoax serious, never had to regret it. Not one single one, other than other countries and the Left World Press projecting problems, they fared better than the propaganda reported in other countries.

Trump could have broke the illusion and narrative if he had challenged it. He should have sent his Surgeon General to visit those Hospitals reporting they were running out of beds and supplies. Even though they didn't need anything anytime it was delivered. The pop up Hospitals were never used, the Hospital ships were not used either. Trump could have crushed it and demanded prosecution and the NSA get to the bottom of the Chinese collusion with the Liberal Commies.

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

foxnews pretty much called it for Biden already.

The good news is Fox doesn't determine elections.

T says

I was disappointed to find this website turned into alt-right circle jerk.

Define alt-right for us? Intrigued as an independent, libertarian minded person.

Also strange how randoms are coming out of the woodwork after an election. Seems a bit childish, but hey, let's go to senseless wars and kill innocent people like the establishment wants. Victory!

I think I just found like 4 million trump votes in these moving boxes. Weird thing is they are for 4 different states. Can we get 16,000 per minute counted in the middle of the night...while vote counting is frozen please?!!! Election theft 2020

Booger says

Several jurisdictions and states > 100% voter participation.

Participation of registered voters or votes counted of the known ballots cast? 100% registered voter participation is voter fraud. Not possible. Some registered granny died before getting the ballot in. That's for sure.

Things I have seen today:

a video of a man burning 80 ballots for Trump

Michigan Absentee Ballot location boarding up windows to hide ballot counting

a video of a man taking away ballots in a wagon in the middle of the night

the FBI and DOJ staying silent

T says

The term is ill-defined

Exactly. Ill-defined term is no term at all. It's BS.

T says

Groups which have been identified as alt-right also espouse white supremacism, white separatism, right-wing populism, anti-immigration, racism, anti-communism, anti-Zionism, antisemitism, Holocaust denial, xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, antifeminism, homophobia, and Islamophobia.

You forgot flat earthiness