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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 9:26am
NoCoupForYou says
Please re-read the article. Not a blue wave, but a blue shift. In 30 some odd states, you are not legally allowed to count mail ins and or early votes until election night. If the R voters showed up at the polls disproportionately to the D's there would be an initial, and massive lead in vote counts. In normal years where the mail in/early (which apparently skews D) was a small percentage of the count it wasnt as noticeable, but this year with an outsized mail in and early votes being massive, we saw a huge lead evaporate.
Not only did a Blue Wave not materialize, it was a bit of a spring Red Tide.
Please re-read the article. Not a blue wave, but a blue shift. In 30 some odd states, you are not legally allowed to count mail ins and or early votes until election night. If the R voters showed up at the polls disproportionately to the D's there would be an initial, and massive lead in vote counts. In normal years where the mail in/early (which apparently skews D) was a small percentage of the count it wasnt as noticeable, but this year with an outsized mail in and early votes being massive, we saw a huge lead evaporate.
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 9:29am
NoCoupForYou says
This is interesting. Do you have a citation?
Massive blank downvote discrepancy (Only 800 Trump only votes vs. 95k Biden Only votes in Georgia)
This is interesting. Do you have a citation?
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 9:32am
Tenpoundbass says
I used to be Cdon when this was a housing site. I get that you find me suspect, but please give me the benefit of the doubt. In a few weeks I will be gone, and you can shit on me all you want. In the meantime, please try to stay focused, (and I will try to do better not to respond to all the chirping :)
I have a huge problem with this guy here, because this is his first post here!
I used to be Cdon when this was a housing site. I get that you find me suspect, but please give me the benefit of the doubt. In a few weeks I will be gone, and you can shit on me all you want. In the meantime, please try to stay focused, (and I will try to do better not to respond to all the chirping :)
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 9:33am
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 9:33am
Cdon2 says
It's interesting in States like Florida who kept running tallies on a county-by-county level daily of BOTH the Early and Mail Ballots, these mysterious huge reversing waves didn't materialize.
PA and FL were both swing states, with roughly similar 2016 results, so why would counting all at once instead of ongoing over weeks effect the final result?
Harder to swing an election with "miraculous" mail in ballots when you're tallying as you go, and the other side doesn't know exactly how much they need to manufacture towards the end of the in person tally at 10-11PM
It's also interesting that it was "Count Every Vote" for several days after Election Day, up until Biden had a lead outside the mandatory recount scope, then it became "The election is fucking over already" within a span of hours.
PA & GA found even more 85% mail in ballots in the past 24-48 hours, almost 2 weeks after Election Day
but this year with an outsized mail in and early votes being massive, we saw a huge lead evaporate.
It's interesting in States like Florida who kept running tallies on a county-by-county level daily of BOTH the Early and Mail Ballots, these mysterious huge reversing waves didn't materialize.
PA and FL were both swing states, with roughly similar 2016 results, so why would counting all at once instead of ongoing over weeks effect the final result?
Harder to swing an election with "miraculous" mail in ballots when you're tallying as you go, and the other side doesn't know exactly how much they need to manufacture towards the end of the in person tally at 10-11PM
It's also interesting that it was "Count Every Vote" for several days after Election Day, up until Biden had a lead outside the mandatory recount scope, then it became "The election is fucking over already" within a span of hours.
PA & GA found even more 85% mail in ballots in the past 24-48 hours, almost 2 weeks after Election Day
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 9:35am
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 9:35am
Cdon2 says
Check the other threads, I'm pretty sure it was posted here.
I'm not getting paid by billing by the hour. :)
This is interesting. Do you have a citation?
Check the other threads, I'm pretty sure it was posted here.
I'm not getting paid by billing by the hour. :)
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 17, 9:38am
Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 17, 9:38am
There's just no way to spin what happened. Every state in America were able to deal with their mail in votes in a timely manner, and didn't need FOX and CNN prefacing an election steal, by not calling states that went to Donald Trump.
How come the media wasn't so dead straight that all of the other states Trump won, wasn't going to flip over mail in ballots. And how come they can process 100's of thousands of votes on election night, but then the days after they make 100K more votes a daunting task that will take days or weeks to count? Also how is it that many States weren't sure how many votes they had come in, and still to count?
How come the media wasn't so dead straight that all of the other states Trump won, wasn't going to flip over mail in ballots. And how come they can process 100's of thousands of votes on election night, but then the days after they make 100K more votes a daunting task that will take days or weeks to count? Also how is it that many States weren't sure how many votes they had come in, and still to count?
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richwicks
2020 Nov 17, 9:39am
richwicks
2020 Nov 17, 9:39am
sighwhatever says
.. at 5:00 in the morning, in 5 states when ballot counting was suspended, with the largest voter turnout in history, greater than FDR, greater than anything, ever in all our history.
Just so strange you never saw a campaign event of his with more than 50 people, and Trump, had stadiums, and parking lots outside of stadiums, filled with enthusiastic supporters.
Yes, he certainly won freely and fairly:
www.youtube.com/embed/MA8a2g6tTp0
I mean, the guy is deep in dementia, he can't even tell the difference between voter fraud and election fraud. Clearly that old corpse, won, fair and square, most voters ever in American history.
but the terrible truth is that he was elected freely and fairly.
.. at 5:00 in the morning, in 5 states when ballot counting was suspended, with the largest voter turnout in history, greater than FDR, greater than anything, ever in all our history.
Just so strange you never saw a campaign event of his with more than 50 people, and Trump, had stadiums, and parking lots outside of stadiums, filled with enthusiastic supporters.
Yes, he certainly won freely and fairly:
www.youtube.com/embed/MA8a2g6tTp0
I mean, the guy is deep in dementia, he can't even tell the difference between voter fraud and election fraud. Clearly that old corpse, won, fair and square, most voters ever in American history.
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Patrick
2020 Nov 17, 9:43am
Patrick
2020 Nov 17, 9:43am
Cdon2 says
Yes, I'm sure Cdon2 is for real. An old time user come back.
I used to be Cdon when this was a housing site.
Yes, I'm sure Cdon2 is for real. An old time user come back.
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BoomAndBustCycle
2020 Nov 17, 9:47am
Onvacation says
I 100% believe voter turnout is realistic. Trump got the 2nd most votes in history. By claiming voter turnout was fraud... you are claiming a large percentage of Trumps votes are fraud too!
The actual final numbers in big cities in blue states aren’t that crazy... I already pointed out Trump did better than Hilary in Philly. It’s the poll watchers in the thousands of red counties that must have been cheating for the numbers to work out. Biden is going to win by 6 million freaking votes! Trump barely won in 2016 states he lost this election... it’s not unreasonable to think Biden would eke out a win with that kind of broad popular vote lead. It’s more mathematically unrealistic for him to lose!
Bullshit and everyone knows it.
I 100% believe voter turnout is realistic. Trump got the 2nd most votes in history. By claiming voter turnout was fraud... you are claiming a large percentage of Trumps votes are fraud too!
The actual final numbers in big cities in blue states aren’t that crazy... I already pointed out Trump did better than Hilary in Philly. It’s the poll watchers in the thousands of red counties that must have been cheating for the numbers to work out. Biden is going to win by 6 million freaking votes! Trump barely won in 2016 states he lost this election... it’s not unreasonable to think Biden would eke out a win with that kind of broad popular vote lead. It’s more mathematically unrealistic for him to lose!
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 10:13am
NoCoupForYou says
Correct. Apparently FL was permitted to count the mail ins when received so you would not have a massive skew the way you had in PA where they were not permitted to do so.
NoCoupForYou says
I think the final results were within reason but the early returns made it look like it was no contest due in part to the order of when different types of ballots were counted. Imagine the rule was you first counted large, urban counties (which skew D) first and only got to small, rural counties (skewing R) later in the evening. Watching in real time, you would expect to see a massive D lead get whittled away over time until eventually it was close to even. Likewise, if you went with small counties first, you would expect to see a massive R lead early, only to evaporate over the course of the night. This isnt how they counted obviously, but its reasonable to assume that the order in which you count ballots will greatly affect real time results.
I hear that in Britain they do not announce any results until everything is counted. Imagine how different it would appear (perception wise) to everyone if we here did not get to see the massive swings, just the end count.
It's interesting in States like Florida who kept running tallies on a county-by-county level daily of BOTH the Early and Mail Ballots, these mysterious huge reversing waves didn't materialize.
Correct. Apparently FL was permitted to count the mail ins when received so you would not have a massive skew the way you had in PA where they were not permitted to do so.
NoCoupForYou says
PA and FL were both swing states, with roughly similar 2016 results, so why would counting all at once instead of ongoing over weeks effect the final result?
I think the final results were within reason but the early returns made it look like it was no contest due in part to the order of when different types of ballots were counted. Imagine the rule was you first counted large, urban counties (which skew D) first and only got to small, rural counties (skewing R) later in the evening. Watching in real time, you would expect to see a massive D lead get whittled away over time until eventually it was close to even. Likewise, if you went with small counties first, you would expect to see a massive R lead early, only to evaporate over the course of the night. This isnt how they counted obviously, but its reasonable to assume that the order in which you count ballots will greatly affect real time results.
I hear that in Britain they do not announce any results until everything is counted. Imagine how different it would appear (perception wise) to everyone if we here did not get to see the massive swings, just the end count.
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 10:15am
NoCoupForYou says
Fair enough :) I know how to search a few ways and will do so. Do you recall if it was you or someone other than you? If you dont remember, no worries.
Check the other threads, I'm pretty sure it was posted here.
I'm not getting paid by billing by the hour. :)
Fair enough :) I know how to search a few ways and will do so. Do you recall if it was you or someone other than you? If you dont remember, no worries.
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Onvacation
2020 Nov 17, 10:17am
Onvacation
2020 Nov 17, 10:17am
Cdon2 says
Whose side are you on?
but this year with an outsized mail in and early votes being massive, we saw a huge lead evaporate.
Whose side are you on?
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 17, 10:29am
Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 17, 10:29am
Cdon2 says
Briton has a track record of electing the shittiest people to prevent the will of England. These people aren't intentionally electing Theresa May she's being chosen for them. After the voters are all counted.
I hear that in Britain they do not announce any results until everything is counted. Imagine how different it would appear (perception wise) to everyone if we here did not get to see the massive swings, just the end count.
Briton has a track record of electing the shittiest people to prevent the will of England. These people aren't intentionally electing Theresa May she's being chosen for them. After the voters are all counted.
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mell
2020 Nov 17, 10:38am
Tenpoundbass says
Lol right Britain also had umpteen brexit referendums and even though they never got a positive vote they're still trying to somehow stay part of the EU clearly against the will of its people.
Cdon2 saysI hear that in Britain they do not announce any results until everything is counted. Imagine how different it would appear (perception wise) to everyone if we here did not get to see the massive swings, just the end count.
Briton has a track record of electing the shittiest people to prevent the will of England. These people aren't intentionally electing Theresa May she's being chosen for them. After the voters are all counted.
Lol right Britain also had umpteen brexit referendums and even though they never got a positive vote they're still trying to somehow stay part of the EU clearly against the will of its people.
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 10:38am
Onvacation says
If I do my job right, you will never know. My client is for POTUS and it is my job to zealously advocate for its best interest vis a vis an amicus brief if one can be made. A good brief not only points out the strengths of your case, but also the weaknesses so you can diffuse your opponents arguments before they inevitably present them at trial. If the roles were reversed it would be my job to zealously advocate for the opposite.
This is what you want from your professionals. If we ever get to the point where your surgeon asks for your political affiliation got help us all.
Whose side are you on?
If I do my job right, you will never know. My client is for POTUS and it is my job to zealously advocate for its best interest vis a vis an amicus brief if one can be made. A good brief not only points out the strengths of your case, but also the weaknesses so you can diffuse your opponents arguments before they inevitably present them at trial. If the roles were reversed it would be my job to zealously advocate for the opposite.
This is what you want from your professionals. If we ever get to the point where your surgeon asks for your political affiliation got help us all.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Nov 17, 11:06am
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Nov 17, 11:06am
Cdon2 says
I just remember watching the election at night, and suddenly this happened and everyone noticed. It's a very widespread image on internet now. It was bizzarre. I'll let you know about PA thing in a bit, getting on a call today.
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut saysI'll ask tomorrow, will get you info on this as detailed as possible. Hopefully it's something.
Did you guys see that crazy thing in Michigan where Biden was losing, suddenly 150k votes for Biden came in (with 0 for Trump)? That did not look right, statistically impossible.
Do you have a citation for this? FYI a good fraud will not show 150K to 0, but will show 135K to 15K whereas in elections past the same area came in 120K to 30K. 150K to 0 sounds like the guy who reported to the media took a lunch break or some other innocuous issue which can be shown with testimony.
I just remember watching the election at night, and suddenly this happened and everyone noticed. It's a very widespread image on internet now. It was bizzarre. I'll let you know about PA thing in a bit, getting on a call today.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 12:09pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 12:09pm
Don't forget the vanishing 40k Libertarian votes in PA between 12:03 and 12:13 with all of them seemingly going to Biden. Jorgensen lost almost half her vote in 10 minutes, from about 2.5% to 1.5%. Can't be a mistake, since there is no one block of 40k Libertarian votes in one precinct anywhere in PA.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 17, 12:20pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 17, 12:20pm
The real point of this whole bizare election is this
Realizing the unique nature in which the Democrats requested mass mail out ballots, and all of the other unprecedented stuff. This is ALL unprecedented, and for any legal hack to try to do damage control and try to sway the public that the fraud smacking us all in the face is normal everyday stuff. Is bullshit within itself.
The impetus has been on the Democrats all along to do due diligence to instill confidence in their unprecedented, bordering on unlawful election.
They should have welcomed any and all poll watchers, if for no other reason than to crush them, if the thought their Blue Wave mail in vote was going to crush it on Tuesday night. Why wouldn't they have wanted a wider audience to witness such and unprecedented historic event?
Also Trump has been all about embracing the process for all of the four years he has been President. The lower they went in the sewers to snare him in legal intrigue, he just went along with it. Never once trying to thwart their process, he just remained confident, that since he was in the right he would prevail. And he was right, you know who get's upset and wants to tip the board game over when you press them? Losers, Fraudsters and Hucksters, that's who!
The Establishment and the Democrats are not acting like people who won an election free and square. In fact, the more Trump prods, pokes and digs, the more adamant they are that they want Trump removed right this very minute. They don't want State certification, they don't want Congress, they don't want to wait until the Inauguration day. They even had to go and invent the optics of an Office of President Elect. Which is the Silliest shit I have ever seen in my Adult life.
The actions of the Left is not the Actions of people who honestly won the election and I would think CDon would at least share our sentiment on that, even if he's wanting the most actionable evidence. He sounds like his mission is to Poo Poo all of the Evidence we've seen and heard over the last two weeks, and get us used to the idea that it was all just our imaginations and rumors and honest people always conduct their business behind locked doors with thugs and goons, beating back those seeking the truth.
Realizing the unique nature in which the Democrats requested mass mail out ballots, and all of the other unprecedented stuff. This is ALL unprecedented, and for any legal hack to try to do damage control and try to sway the public that the fraud smacking us all in the face is normal everyday stuff. Is bullshit within itself.
The impetus has been on the Democrats all along to do due diligence to instill confidence in their unprecedented, bordering on unlawful election.
They should have welcomed any and all poll watchers, if for no other reason than to crush them, if the thought their Blue Wave mail in vote was going to crush it on Tuesday night. Why wouldn't they have wanted a wider audience to witness such and unprecedented historic event?
Also Trump has been all about embracing the process for all of the four years he has been President. The lower they went in the sewers to snare him in legal intrigue, he just went along with it. Never once trying to thwart their process, he just remained confident, that since he was in the right he would prevail. And he was right, you know who get's upset and wants to tip the board game over when you press them? Losers, Fraudsters and Hucksters, that's who!
The Establishment and the Democrats are not acting like people who won an election free and square. In fact, the more Trump prods, pokes and digs, the more adamant they are that they want Trump removed right this very minute. They don't want State certification, they don't want Congress, they don't want to wait until the Inauguration day. They even had to go and invent the optics of an Office of President Elect. Which is the Silliest shit I have ever seen in my Adult life.
The actions of the Left is not the Actions of people who honestly won the election and I would think CDon would at least share our sentiment on that, even if he's wanting the most actionable evidence. He sounds like his mission is to Poo Poo all of the Evidence we've seen and heard over the last two weeks, and get us used to the idea that it was all just our imaginations and rumors and honest people always conduct their business behind locked doors with thugs and goons, beating back those seeking the truth.
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REpro
2020 Nov 17, 12:43pm
REpro
2020 Nov 17, 12:43pm
Tenpoundbass says
Vast majority of crazy leftist are just sheeple.
We're Warriors all we need is General Trump to just give us the order. BLM, ANTIFA and the Faggot Brownshirt wont stand a chance.
Vast majority of crazy leftist are just sheeple.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Nov 17, 12:45pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Nov 17, 12:45pm
Here is one in California, not sure if this is useful. But they've been charged, this is Los Angeles.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/pair-charged-with-voter-fraud-allegedly-submitted-thousands-of-fraudulent-applications-on-behalf-of-homeless-people/2464168/
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/pair-charged-with-voter-fraud-allegedly-submitted-thousands-of-fraudulent-applications-on-behalf-of-homeless-people/2464168/
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 12:55pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 12:55pm
Two men arrested in Southern California with illegally registering up to 8000 people, and charged with a forger's instrument.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/2-charged-with-voter-fraud-allegedly-submitted-8000-fraudulent-registration-applications_3583016.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-17-4
https://www.theepochtimes.com/2-charged-with-voter-fraud-allegedly-submitted-8000-fraudulent-registration-applications_3583016.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-17-4
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 12:56pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 12:56pm
Thousands to hundreds of PA voters registered to exact same addresses. Some ARE SFH buildings (see Stroudsberg below)
Remember; Many schools in PA are closed for dorms/in person. So these can't be valid college students.
Broad St. address is a left-wing church.
2319 (TOTAL AT ADDRESS), https://www.google.com/maps/search/272%20W%20HIGH%20ST%20CARLISLE%20PA%2017013 ,272 W HIGH ST CARLISLE PA 17013
2262, https://www.google.com/maps/search/415%20HARRISBURG%20AVE%20LANCASTER%20PA%2017603 ,415 HARRISBURG AVE LANCASTER PA 17603
2221, https://www.google.com/maps/search/1570%20BALTIMORE%20PIKE%20LINCOLN%20UNIVERSITY%20PA%2019352 ,1570 BALTIMORE PIKE LINCOLN UNIVERSITY PA 19352
772, https://www.google.com/maps/search/300%20N%20WASHINGTON%20ST%20GETTYSBURG%20PA%2017325 ,300 N WASHINGTON ST GETTYSBURG PA 17325
751, https://www.google.com/maps/search/315%20S%20BROAD%20ST%20PHILADELPHIA%20PA%2019107 ,315 S BROAD ST PHILADELPHIA PA 19107
703, https://www.google.com/maps/search/1871%20OLD%20MAIN%20DR%20SHIPPENSBURG%20PA%2017257 ,1871 OLD MAIN DR SHIPPENSBURG PA 17257
617, https://www.google.com/maps/search/1200%20TEL%20HAI%20CIR%20HONEY%20BROOK%20PA%2019344 ,1200 TEL HAI CIR HONEY BROOK PA 19344
557, https://www.google.com/maps/search/200%20PROSPECT%20ST%20EAST%20STROUDSBURG%20PA%2018301 ,200 PROSPECT ST EAST STROUDSBURG PA 18301
DB OF RESULTS -
Remember; Many schools in PA are closed for dorms/in person. So these can't be valid college students.
Broad St. address is a left-wing church.
2319 (TOTAL AT ADDRESS), https://www.google.com/maps/search/272%20W%20HIGH%20ST%20CARLISLE%20PA%2017013 ,272 W HIGH ST CARLISLE PA 17013
2262, https://www.google.com/maps/search/415%20HARRISBURG%20AVE%20LANCASTER%20PA%2017603 ,415 HARRISBURG AVE LANCASTER PA 17603
2221, https://www.google.com/maps/search/1570%20BALTIMORE%20PIKE%20LINCOLN%20UNIVERSITY%20PA%2019352 ,1570 BALTIMORE PIKE LINCOLN UNIVERSITY PA 19352
772, https://www.google.com/maps/search/300%20N%20WASHINGTON%20ST%20GETTYSBURG%20PA%2017325 ,300 N WASHINGTON ST GETTYSBURG PA 17325
751, https://www.google.com/maps/search/315%20S%20BROAD%20ST%20PHILADELPHIA%20PA%2019107 ,315 S BROAD ST PHILADELPHIA PA 19107
703, https://www.google.com/maps/search/1871%20OLD%20MAIN%20DR%20SHIPPENSBURG%20PA%2017257 ,1871 OLD MAIN DR SHIPPENSBURG PA 17257
617, https://www.google.com/maps/search/1200%20TEL%20HAI%20CIR%20HONEY%20BROOK%20PA%2019344 ,1200 TEL HAI CIR HONEY BROOK PA 19344
557, https://www.google.com/maps/search/200%20PROSPECT%20ST%20EAST%20STROUDSBURG%20PA%2018301 ,200 PROSPECT ST EAST STROUDSBURG PA 18301
DB OF RESULTS -
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 1:43pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Thanks - I will see what I can find but i will need more than a screenshot "from the internet" with no idea as to its origin or provenance. Once the source is identified, it will then need to be determined if that source is receiving the info from the state, or some third party.
I just remember watching the election at night, and suddenly this happened and everyone noticed. It's a very widespread image on internet now. It was bizzarre. I'll let you know about PA thing in a bit, getting on a call today.
Thanks - I will see what I can find but i will need more than a screenshot "from the internet" with no idea as to its origin or provenance. Once the source is identified, it will then need to be determined if that source is receiving the info from the state, or some third party.
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RWSGFY
2020 Nov 17, 1:46pm
RWSGFY
2020 Nov 17, 1:46pm
Cdon2 says
The actual footage taken from the TV screen has been posted on this site.
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut saysI just remember watching the election at night, and suddenly this happened and everyone noticed. It's a very widespread image on internet now. It was bizzarre. I'll let you know about PA thing in a bit, getting on a call today.
Thanks - I will see what I can find but i will need more than a screenshot "from the internet" with no idea as to its origin or provenance. Once the source is identified, it will then need to be determined if that source is receiving the info from the state, or some third party.
The actual footage taken from the TV screen has been posted on this site.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 17, 1:52pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 Nov 17, 1:52pm
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says
Trump was impeached on a bigger anonymous source, and it was made a crime to even try to guess who it was. Spare us all the sanctimonious shit.
A guy at the Greyhound station told me Biden's wife blew a poll worker in front of him to throw the Sardinian Communist votes to him and she even had Sharpies between her tits to give these guys to re-mark the ballots.
Trump was impeached on a bigger anonymous source, and it was made a crime to even try to guess who it was. Spare us all the sanctimonious shit.
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 1:58pm
NoCoupForYou says
OK so (if true) you may have something here which is both actionable and potentially impactful. You state these are from (I presume) rolls of registered voters. Can you link me to your source for that? It would be helpful (but not essential as this point) to have info on how many of these were returned.
Once i have that I will then need (which my team will do) info as to the overall reported vote for the addresses noted and take a guess as to the D vs R outcome. In a prior election, a colleague of mine challenged a batch of over 2K ballots, only to find out he ended up throwing out approx 80-100 ballots in his clients favor. Also, once I open the door as to that issue, OC has the right to bring all of those areas in for further vetting. Point is you have to be careful in terms of your challenges because you sometimes make your client worse off than you would versus simply accepting the reported vote. In any event, any follow up would be appreciated
Thousands to hundreds of PA voters registered to exact same addresses. Some ARE SFH buildings (see Stroudsberg below)
Remember; Many schools in PA are closed for dorms/in person. So these can't be valid college students.
Broad St. address is a left-wing church.
2319 (TOTAL AT ADDRESS), https://www.google.com/maps/search/272%20W%20HIGH%20ST%20CARLISLE%20PA%2017013 ,272 W HIGH ST CARLISLE PA 17013
2262, https://www.google.com/maps/search/415%20HARRISBURG%20AVE%20LANCASTER%20PA%2017603 ,415 HARRISBURG AVE LANCASTER PA 17603
2221, https://www.google.com/maps/search/1570%...
OK so (if true) you may have something here which is both actionable and potentially impactful. You state these are from (I presume) rolls of registered voters. Can you link me to your source for that? It would be helpful (but not essential as this point) to have info on how many of these were returned.
Once i have that I will then need (which my team will do) info as to the overall reported vote for the addresses noted and take a guess as to the D vs R outcome. In a prior election, a colleague of mine challenged a batch of over 2K ballots, only to find out he ended up throwing out approx 80-100 ballots in his clients favor. Also, once I open the door as to that issue, OC has the right to bring all of those areas in for further vetting. Point is you have to be careful in terms of your challenges because you sometimes make your client worse off than you would versus simply accepting the reported vote. In any event, any follow up would be appreciated
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 2:00pm
Coup - sorry that other post is truncated (im obviously not a coder). I meant to ask for your follow up on all of those batches you cited. Thanks
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 2:23pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Nov 17, 2:23pm
Cdon2 says
I charge $50/hr to assist in records research with a $500 retainer.
I saw that above and posted it, no link. From thedonald.win, which is your best resource for evidence if you search.
Coup - sorry that other post is truncated (im obviously not a coder). I meant to ask for your follow up on all of those batches you cited. Thanks
I charge $50/hr to assist in records research with a $500 retainer.
I saw that above and posted it, no link. From thedonald.win, which is your best resource for evidence if you search.
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Eric Holder
2020 Nov 17, 4:29pm
Eric Holder
2020 Nov 17, 4:29pm
Tenpoundbass says
Actually, this is exactly the same scenario as that "pee tape" allegation came to life: some guy reported overhearing a conversation in a hotel elevator between two allegedly FSB operatives that they have videotaped some "big American businessman" doing these alleged things with some Moscow prostitutes.
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch saysA guy at the Greyhound station told me Biden's wife blew a poll worker in front of him to throw the Sardinian Communist votes to him and she even had Sharpies between her tits to give these guys to re-mark the ballots.
Actually, this is exactly the same scenario as that "pee tape" allegation came to life: some guy reported overhearing a conversation in a hotel elevator between two allegedly FSB operatives that they have videotaped some "big American businessman" doing these alleged things with some Moscow prostitutes.
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rocketjoe79
2020 Nov 17, 4:40pm
rocketjoe79
2020 Nov 17, 4:40pm
This is a very chilling read: Neffinger is on Biden's Staff.
https://thejeffreylord.com/who-is-peter-neffenger/
https://thejeffreylord.com/who-is-peter-neffenger/
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zzyzzx
2020 Nov 17, 5:02pm
zzyzzx
2020 Nov 17, 5:02pm
Cdon2 says
The link to voter rolls downloads are on thedonald.win
OK so (if true) you may have something here which is both actionable and potentially impactful. You state these are from (I presume) rolls of registered voters. Can you link me to your source for that? It would be helpful (but not essential as this point) to have info on how many of these were returned.
The link to voter rolls downloads are on thedonald.win
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Nov 17, 6:51pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Nov 17, 6:51pm
Cdon2 says
The source for the data in those screenshots was foxNews.com. Does that help? I remember watching fox news, refreshing the pages, and suddenly one update and all of a sudden that changed like that. It was strange to see a jump for one president, but 0 for the other. Because no county has 100% of a single voter president.
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut saysI just remember watching the election at night, and suddenly this happened and everyone noticed. It's a very widespread image on internet now. It was bizzarre. I'll let you know about PA thing in a bit, getting on a call today.
Thanks - I will see what I can find but i will need more than a screenshot "from the internet" with no idea as to its origin or provenance. Once the source is identified, it will then need to be determined if that source is receiving the info from the state, or some third party.
The source for the data in those screenshots was foxNews.com. Does that help? I remember watching fox news, refreshing the pages, and suddenly one update and all of a sudden that changed like that. It was strange to see a jump for one president, but 0 for the other. Because no county has 100% of a single voter president.
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Patrick
2020 Nov 17, 7:19pm
Patrick
2020 Nov 17, 7:19pm
mell says
Exactly.
You have democracy as long as you vote to make your owners richer.
If you vote in your own interest instead of theirs, somehow democracy doesn't seem to have an effect on what happens. This election feels exactly like that.
British people see their wages driven down ever more by floods of poorer Europeans, not to mention the masses of illegals they have. They don't like it.
Their owners are quietly telling them to fuck off, there is no democracy in Britain. They will obey and become ever more impoverished so that the money can go to their owners.
Lol right Britain also had umpteen brexit referendums and even though they never got a positive vote they're still trying to somehow stay part of the EU clearly against the will of its people.
Exactly.
You have democracy as long as you vote to make your owners richer.
If you vote in your own interest instead of theirs, somehow democracy doesn't seem to have an effect on what happens. This election feels exactly like that.
British people see their wages driven down ever more by floods of poorer Europeans, not to mention the masses of illegals they have. They don't like it.
Their owners are quietly telling them to fuck off, there is no democracy in Britain. They will obey and become ever more impoverished so that the money can go to their owners.
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mell
2020 Nov 17, 7:22pm
The data on the Donald site has all been downloaded from Edison with timestamps and those "glitches" have been verified. Of course some people are saying well it's from a data company and not the official data but if it's official enough for major networks to rely on it and call a winner based on it, it should be considered official. The fraud is there. If anybody disputes the legitimacy of that data flow showing pretty good evidence of fraud then all networks need to recant and say no winner has been called. Can't have it both ways.
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 8:37pm
Tenpoundbass says
Respectfully, if you believe R was not allowed proper access, you should explain this to POTUS as they apparently believe they got all the poll watchers they need. On Nov 9 in PA they filed a 109 page,seven count complaint, leading off in counts I and II Styled:
U.S. Const. Art. I § 4, cl. 1; Art. II, § 1, cl. 2; Amend. XIV, 42 U.S.C. § 1983
Denial of Due Process On The Right to Vote
Invalid Enactment of Regulations Affecting Observation and
Monitoring of the Election
https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/2020-11-09-complaint-as-filed.pdf
Yet 2 days ago, they "amended" that complaint dropping 40 pages, 5 of the 7 counts, and most notably, the two counts related to their inability to "Observe and Monitor the election"
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.125.1.pdf
Thus despite the repeated public claims from the R side of "we werent allowed in to see" the question is why is POTUS unwilling to make that claim in court?
The impetus has been on the Democrats all along to do due diligence to instill confidence in their unprecedented, bordering on unlawful election.
They should have welcomed any and all poll watchers, if for no other reason than to crush them, if the thought their Blue Wave mail in vote was going to crush it on Tuesday night. Why wouldn't they have wanted a wider audience to witness such and unprecedented historic event?
Respectfully, if you believe R was not allowed proper access, you should explain this to POTUS as they apparently believe they got all the poll watchers they need. On Nov 9 in PA they filed a 109 page,seven count complaint, leading off in counts I and II Styled:
U.S. Const. Art. I § 4, cl. 1; Art. II, § 1, cl. 2; Amend. XIV, 42 U.S.C. § 1983
Denial of Due Process On The Right to Vote
Invalid Enactment of Regulations Affecting Observation and
Monitoring of the Election
https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/2020-11-09-complaint-as-filed.pdf
Yet 2 days ago, they "amended" that complaint dropping 40 pages, 5 of the 7 counts, and most notably, the two counts related to their inability to "Observe and Monitor the election"
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057/gov.uscourts.pamd.127057.125.1.pdf
Thus despite the repeated public claims from the R side of "we werent allowed in to see" the question is why is POTUS unwilling to make that claim in court?
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Cdon2
2020 Nov 17, 8:42pm
NoCoupForYou says
Holy shit, that site is totally over the top. If you are serious, let me see if there is room in the budget, as I need some help mining Monut Olympus of BS for the nuggets of gold.
In any event, no worries about those batches of ballots. Per my colleague:
1. Duplicates from these batches are likely to be elimated before the certification process.
2. If they are not eliminated, it arguably helps POTUS in that (a) on the whole if you assume the recipients are college students (heavy D voters) and (b) if the undelivered votes were returned by “organic” fraud, from area residents those areas on balance skew toward POTUS.
In other words, unless this was organized mafia style fraud, any fraud which occurred likely benefitted POTUS so its best to let them stand.
Cdon2 saysCoup - sorry that other post is truncated (im obviously not a coder). I meant to ask for your follow up on all of those batches you cited. Thanks
I charge $50/hr to assist in records research with a $500 retainer.
I saw that above and posted it, no link. From thedonald.win, which is your best resource for evidence if you search.
Holy shit, that site is totally over the top. If you are serious, let me see if there is room in the budget, as I need some help mining Monut Olympus of BS for the nuggets of gold.
In any event, no worries about those batches of ballots. Per my colleague:
1. Duplicates from these batches are likely to be elimated before the certification process.
2. If they are not eliminated, it arguably helps POTUS in that (a) on the whole if you assume the recipients are college students (heavy D voters) and (b) if the undelivered votes were returned by “organic” fraud, from area residents those areas on balance skew toward POTUS.
In other words, unless this was organized mafia style fraud, any fraud which occurred likely benefitted POTUS so its best to let them stand.
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Use your best discretion of what you think is useful, just understand that our time for filing is limited and I may give you a bit of pushback because, the threshold for fraud in elections is incredibly high. After its clear they lost, losing sides often like to allege fraud or other malfeasance, but historically, these claims are a waste of time. Also, if you allege fraud and you cannot present credible evidence of it, detailed in particulars, not only will your client lose, the attorney likely will be sanctioned, and if the pleading is egregious, the attorney will lose their license. Thus, you may have noted that while Trump's team has often claimed procedural errors in the vein of due process and equal protection, to my knowledge they have not even alleged fraud because unless you can "bring the goods" you as the attorney are putting not just your reputation, but your actual livelihood on the line.
I will take whatever you can give me, but 2 things I dont want to hear:
WE WERENT ALLOWED IN TO WATCH!!! While this is a good talking point for TV, this happens every time in every election, and proves nothing. Typically, a county allocates say 50 republican watchers, 50 democrat watchers, 10 non partisan and this is agreed upon by all months in advance. However in highly contested elections, EVERYONE and their brother descends upon one location, eventually the building gets overloaded at 2X capacity, and then the massive overflow of partisans cries foul as they believe their not being there is fraud. In other words, just because your guy cant get in doesn't mean that any partisans on your side werent there. You may have noticed that (when pressed) trump's counsel has repeatedly had to to admit there was at all times at least one republican in the room. *Caveat, if you find someone who was on the INSIDE and can claim that the number of republican watchers was less than the agreed upon amount, we may have something. * FURTHER CAVEAT, I am revising my earlier statement here. I assumed and I dismissed the early claim "I wasnt allowed in" because that turned out to be false in Philadelphia when trumps counsel admitted to the "non zero number" of R side people there. There may very well be other areas in other states where no one from the R side was there. However, it will never be proven by some random person who said, I wasnt allowed in. Just because you werent allowed in, doesnt mean that no R side parties were allowed in. It will be proven by a R election challenger or similar person who cannot certify or is willing to say in an interview "there was no one in the room from the R side".
DEAD PEOPLE VOTED!!! No matter what the MSM says, this IS fraud, but in my experience, not actionable. Often times, it is a ledger of say 15 or 20 dead people who got ballots but not necessarily an indication someone filled them out and sent them back in. Also, when these votes are filled in and returned, they often vote not just for "the other guy" but your guy as well. In other words your hoped for swing of 15 or 20 becomes 4 or 5 once you net them all out and that is not what we are looking for here. Caveat, I do want to hear of egregious roles of say 500+ dead people were sent ballots, but for anything less than this, the juice isnt really worth the squeeze.
I know this is a long shot, but as you all may know, it was the National Enquirer which broke the story of presidential candidate John Edwards love child 10 months before the MSM would address it. So please give me whatever you got and let me at least take a cursory look at it. Thanks in advance for your help!