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election2020 says

She at best is stupid and at worst is mole of DNC or con woman. She has hurt the case against election fraud more than anyone.

And I thought it was Mike Pence who hurt the possibility of investigation? Or maybe it was Barr who refused to investigate? Or maybe its the CIA FBI NSA DNC RNC CNN MSNBC system that had different plans for America?

I believe, without evidence, that Sidney is sincere. I think she is a patriot.

The swamp is deeper and wider than we ever realized.

Onvacation says

election2020 says

She at best is stupid and at worst is mole of DNC or con woman. She has hurt the case against election fraud more than anyone.

And I thought it was Mike Pence who hurt the possibility of investigation? Or maybe it was Barr who refused to investigate? Or maybe its the CIA FBI NSA DNC RNC CNN MSNBC system that had different plans for America?

I believe, without evidence, that Sidney is sincere. I think she is a patriot.

The swamp is deeper and wider than we ever realized.

Swamp can be bottomless. The issues here is whether "allegations" proof can be shown to public.
All we need is proof of "Germany server" being confiscated.
How hard it that?
If she had no proof or bluffing, It is just stupid strategy or at worse malpractice.

People who make baseless allegations lose credibility and in that case she hurt credibility of many more.

election2020 says

If she had no proof or bluffing, It is just stupid strategy or at worse malpractice.

She is and always has been irrelevant. As you have said, it is mathematically impossible for Trump to have lost. The ballots under the table, millions of mail in. etc. The whole thing was a fraud and now the demented puppet is fronting for some dark un-American forces.

Onvacation says

election2020 says

If she had no proof or bluffing, It is just stupid strategy or at worse malpractice.

She is and always has been irrelevant. As you have said, it is mathematically impossible for Trump to have lost. The ballots under the table, millions of mail in. etc. The whole thing was a fraud and now the demented puppet is fronting for some dark un-American forces.

But she sucked the oxygen out and everyone(including favorable media) thought "server will prove" fraud and this election will be invalidated.
Put yourself in shoes of people who want to hide "election fraud", Can there be any better strategy to distract?
... Now whether Sidney was fooled or she was part of this scheme, I have no idea.

election2020 says

Was Sidney Powell a democrat plant?

election2020 says

... Now whether Sidney was fooled or she was part of this scheme, I have no idea.

But we can speculate all night.

Onvacation says

election2020 says

Was Sidney Powell a democrat plant?

election2020 says

... Now whether Sidney was fooled or she was part of this scheme, I have no idea.

But we can speculate all night.

You are correct that there is no proof for us either way.
I am 100% certain that she hurt the "election fraud case" with her unhinged theories more than anyone else and provided zero proof.
(Nobody can say whether server was confiscated from Germany or not.. This is not hard thing to prove if you have some proof)

Now circumstantial and based positive effects of her actions to dilute election fraud case, I would guess her to be democrat operative.
The other one would be "Lin Wood", His wild allegation let to two democrat senators from Georgia.

Americans are new to this "backstabbing" kind of politics. Hindooo operates this way so I can draw from some experiences.
I worry for American lives as this dirty politics becomes more prevalent, Things like below will happen often as citizen lives will be taken for political motives.
In this particular case Hindoooo Army killed innocent Sikhs to prove to Bill Clinton to blame Kashmiri separatists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chittisinghpura_massacre

election2020 says

I am 100% certain that she hurt the "election fraud case" with her unhinged theories more than anyone else and provided zero proof.

You're arguing like a progressive that thinks public opinion is more important than facts.

Russia never intervened on trumps behalf in 2016 but many people think that Russian collusion was a fact.

There is a ton of evidence, the Navarro report has a good summary, for 2020 election fraud. Perhaps Sidney repeated disinformation. Maybe she was a Democrat plant.

The progressives have been burning down the country for decades. The neocons have been selling out the country and oppressing the people for longer.

The people. We the people are under occupation by an illegitimate regime. It's clear to me that a set of very bad globalist actors have been screwing the people for a long time now. We are at war. At this point it's just a battle of ideas and memes. They're making it personal with the masks and experimental biologic agents.

I think we can agree that the election has been stolen. At least I hope we can. Facts still matter.

And I don't think he is but I am still not sure that Trump is not a globalist actor. But I am still on his side for there is no other side for me to be on.

Onvacation says

election2020 says

I am 100% certain that she hurt the "election fraud case" with her unhinged theories more than anyone else and provided zero proof.

You're arguing like a progressive that thinks public opinion is more important than facts.

Russia never intervened on trumps behalf in 2016 but many people think that Russian collusion was a fact.

There is a ton of evidence, the Navarro report has a good summary, for 2020 election fraud. Perhaps Sidney repeated disinformation. Maybe she was a Democrat plant.

The progressives have been burning down the country for decades. The neocons have been selling out the country and oppressing the people for longer.

The people. We the people are under occupation by an illegitimate regime. It's clear to me that a set of very bad globalist actors have been screwing the people for a long time now. We are at war. At this point it's just ...

Navarro report was good.
So was many mathematicians providing statistical proof of fraud.
Also the guy asking for "barcode" based verification had solid explanation I can get behind.
The work done by Arizona republics was admirable and full of proof.
But "kooks/plants" got hold of narrative to distract and they succeeded.

Onvacation says

And I don't think he is but I am still not sure that Trump is not a globalist actor. But I am still on his side for there is no other side for me to be on.

You never know. Although his 4 year administration was big FU to globalists.
When he started I also thought of him as Dem plant.

Actually we should stop thinking about person, But more about actions... Trump was relatively good global peace promoting president.
As a personality, I didn't like him.

For the ones on repeat hate :)... Miri/Piri is in our blood.
https://twitter.com/butterfly0o0o0/status/1375626323876405251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsA6g1YAd4w

SIDNEY POWELL IS NOT DONE YET!

Onvacation says

SIDNEY POWELL IS NOT DONE YET!

Oh for Christ sakes, give it up already.

The whole system is corrupt and broken. Trump was the peoples choice to run the executive branch but a cabal of domestic and foreign actors stole the presidential and who knows how many congressional elections.

We all know it. We have all seen the evidence.

The FBI says there is not enough evidence to have changed the election but they never looked. The department of justice is corrupt from top to bottom. These people are now passing laws and executive orders to dismantle our republic.

We are living under a fascist dictatorship without direct citizen representation. Our rights are being stripped one by one. If you think I am being hyperbolic did you ever think people would be arrested for not wearing a mask in public?

What can we do?

Lots of good points in that video!

Most importantly, the recent press is complete, outright, bald-faced lies. Sidney Powell did not say what the press quoted her as saying. See https://www.sidneypowell.com/

Biden supposedly won George by 11,000 votes, but in Georgia 400,000 ballots "cannot properly be accounted for".

There was also an algorithm in the voting machines to shave votes (as the machine manual admits they can do) so they weighted Biden votes at 1.26 and Trump votes at 0.74 and this was done across the country.

There was also specific flipping of votes in multiple states and cities. They needed only six key Democratic stronghold cities to flip the election.

The Dominion algorithm was written in Serbia, The voting machines were connected to the internet in violation of law.

Counting stopped simultaneously in six states because Trump voters turned out in such high numbers it broke the fraudulent weighting algorithm. That is, Trump was winning in spite of Biden ballots being multiplied by 1.26 and Trump votes multiplied by 0.74. So they needed to stop the counting and resort to massive quantities of fraudulent mail in ballots as a backup form of fraud.

Hundreds of thousands of fake ballots were trucked to various locations to be on hand when needed.

This was a coordinated and well-funded operation from start to finish, but it is not known who was in charge. There was evidence of substantial hacking from China.

The FBI has refused to investigate.

In Antrim County, Michigan there is hard evidence of votes being flipped.

The Department of Justice has refused to look at the issues. The word came from high up that nothing would be done, even though they have the evidence.

Trump was never in control of his own Justice Department. People around him disobeyed presidential orders. Powell is disappointed that Trump allowed this to happen. It would have taken action in only six cities to correct the fraud, but the Department of Justice ordered all their agents to stand down and stop investigating.

Trump was surrounded by people who told him to stop contesting the fraud and that he would not be allowed not enforce the law and follow the Constitution. Trump should have fired those people but did not. It's very strange that he did not.

The GOP was part of the swamp. The massive RINO population in the GOP and even in the Trump campaign were not interested in investigating and following the Constitution.

The GOP raised hundreds of millions of dollars for "investigation" but most of that money disappeared.

No one in power will even allow debate about the election fraud now.

Tech moguls were heavily involved in the fraud. Zuckerberg donated $400 million to voting activities in exactly the six cities with the most fraud. Trump and Powell were kicked off Twitter.

It was an accident that Trump won in 2016. They had voter machine fraud then too, but they did not account for Trump's surprising popularity.

The virus was great cover for mail in ballot fraud.

Biden never even campaigned because he knew he didn't need to.

Amy Coney Barrett was pressured to recuse herself from any investigation of election fraud even before she was appointed.

We have witnessed the complete institutional failure of every institution to enforce the rule of law.

The Chinese boasted that they controlled everyone in DC except Trump.

The same machines developed to cheat in Venezuela were used to cheat here.

The virus restrictions are designed to destroy the middle class because they fear an independent strong middle class could resist the globalists.

See https://defendingtherepublic.org/ for evidence from Venezuela

WineHorror1 says

Oh for Christ sakes, give it up already.

@WineHorror1 Please watch the video.

You are wrong to suggest that anyone give up.

The election was clearly stolen, and the Constitution was violated. If you give up, you give up on the country and the rule of law.

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

Onvacation says

What can we do?

@Onvacation Posting that video was one good thing to do. Spread it widely.

Another good thing to do is civil disobedience. Take off your mask in a store! Never wear a mask outdoors.

Buy a box of sidewalk chalk and write "China Owns Biden" at major pedestrian crossings. Come up with other slogans as well.

Maybe wear this t-shirt in public: https://www.bonfire.com/masks-do-work/?productType=bacf6cd6-b53d-469c-ab96-02afe5b15f71

Campaign to adopt the Israeli voting system.

Vote for people like Tom Cotton and Rand Paul.

What else?

election2020 says

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

@election2020 Did you watch the video?

The Justice Department has prohibited its members from bringing justice to the public.

Patrick says

The virus restrictions are designed to destroy the middle class because they fear an independent strong middle class could resist the globalists.

I think the oligarchs made a mistake here.

They have indeed destroyed a lot of the middle class, but that just gives newly unemployed people a lot of time to read sites like this one and to think about who did this to them and why.

election2020 says

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

Lawyers don't convict people, courts do.

Do you actually believe Sidney Powell is a democrat plant?

Patrick says

election2020 says

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

@election2020 Did you watch the video?

The Justice Department has prohibited its members from bringing justice to the public.

If the "courts" refuse to hear it , You make it public and say "lawyers" are done in this country and let the revolutionaries take over.
If no revolutionary show up, Then it is done deal.

If courts cease to exist , Lawyers are not needed.
It is a con game if still some lawyers trying to litigate.

Onvacation says

election2020 says

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

Lawyers don't convict people, courts do.

Do you actually believe Sidney Powell is a democrat plant?

On technicality you are right.
But the Govt has brought no case as violation of law/constitution.
FBI etc. refused to bring case in spite of govt operated by victim of this fraud Trump.

Sidney Powell is effectively trying to convict(by forcing judge's hand) in a court which she says is not listening.
Can somebody who thinks logically explain to me what is the purpose of this exercise?
If US started to operate like Hindoo India then Sidney Powell is democratic plant. It is how it works over there.

Patrick says

Posting that video was one good thing to do. Spread it widely.

Another good thing to do is civil disobedience. Take off your mask in a store! Never wear a mask outdoors.

Buy a box of sidewalk chalk and write "China Owns Biden" at major pedestrian crossings. Come up with other slogans as well.

Maybe wear this t-shirt in public: https://www.bonfire.com/masks-do-work/?productType=bacf6cd6-b53d-469c-ab96-02afe5b15f71

Campaign to adopt the Israeli voting system.

Vote for people like Tom Cotton and Rand Paul.

What else?

Also ad blocking!

Use Brave browser and plug-ins to block all ads from Google, Facebook, and Twitter, and spread the knowledge of how to do this.

Patrick says

WineHorror1 says

Oh for Christ sakes, give it up already.

@WineHorror1 Please watch the video.

You are wrong to suggest that anyone give up.

The election was clearly stolen, and the Constitution was violated. If you give up, you give up on the country and the rule of law.

Thanks Patrick. Not sure why anyone should "give it up already" when we're talking about the future of this country. Cowardly.

Patrick says

WineHorror1 says

Oh for Christ sakes, give it up already.

@WineHorror1 Please watch the video.

You are wrong to suggest that anyone give up.

The election was clearly stolen, and the Constitution was violated. If you give up, you give up on the country and the rule of law.

I'm with you on this but facts simply don't matter. We've entered a new paradigm. The media controls the message and with targeted hep, the outcomes. I truly believe we are and have been experiencing a revolution.

Onvacation says

What can we do?

Hey @Onvacation you have a lovely sailboat with a big sail.

What would it cost to make a sail with "CHINA OWNS BIDEN" written as big as possible on it?

Patrick says

What would it cost to make a sail with "CHINA OWNS BIDEN" written as big as possible on it?

Lettering is cheap, but I would worry about the bullets.

When a disputed election happen anywhere in world, There are huge rallies lead by "cheated person".
Here Trump is sleeping like a overdosed sailor as If He was part of same scheme.
Where is leadership?
May be He has too many crimes to hide.

Sidney Powell etc. are just to distract. Overall their contribution is to make "election fraud" disappear by presenting "fantacy stories" for distraction.
Where is another crazy who made republicans lose Georgia election? ... Mr Lin Wood.

This looks like a whole scheme including COVID stuff is to tell people "You have no say" to indicate clearly that dictatorship is coming and get used to it.
I will blame "democrat idiots" for following communists and "republican idiots" for following snake salesman on republican side. Time will tell... who are these? You can trust nobody.

I have no doubt that:

1. the machines were rigged to skew the vote
2. there were truckloads of ballots shipped in late at night when the machines were not enough to override the popular will to elect Trump

But it is very strange that Trump just gave up when he could have fired the DoJ and FBI heads who were explicitly blocking investigation into the massive election fraud.

Did they threaten Trump, or promise him something?

Patrick says

But it is very strange that Trump just gave up when he could have fired the DoJ and FBI heads who were explicitly blocking investigation into the massive election fraud.

Trump did have people he trusted looking into it (Barr, Durham). But Trump did not realize these phonies were part of the deep state, just like Graham.

Patrick says

Did they threaten Trump, or promise him something?

They probably showed him some things that they do to people and reminded him of how fragile the life of loved ones are.

Trump, willing actor for the deep state or patriot in over his head?

Patrick says

I have no doubt that:

1. the machines were rigged to skew the vote
2. there were truckloads of ballots shipped in late at night when the machines were not enough to override the popular will to elect Trump

But it is very strange that Trump just gave up when he could have fired the DoJ and FBI heads who were explicitly blocking investigation into the massive election fraud.

Did they threaten Trump, or promise him something?

I think the problem was like Karl Denninger put it in one of his posts, not sparing Trump with criticism. If Trump would have intervened he had to go all-in, i.e. pot commit. That means pulling all measures necessary incl. the military and with the help of the forces seize all material that would prove the clear interference. That's a huge matzeball. If any of this went wrong and he would get stopped out and doubts would emerge about whether his claims were factual and can be proven he could have well landed in jail for a long time or even before a tribunal. That's a huge gamble hardly anybody would take on. Maybe he decided it would be better to stage a come back and build an resistance media and voice and win over more people as the country deteriorates under xiden. Obviously the dems have a great opp here to cement the fraud but at the end of the day if the country goes to shit just bad enough they will be ousted.

mell says

Maybe he decided it would be better to stage a come back and build an resistance media and voice and win over more people as the country deteriorates under xiden.

Viva la resistance!

It's not about Trump. It's about our republic. We have all seen that the democrats want the country to be ruled.

Libertarians, like me, just want to be left alone to be successful. I don't mind paying taxes, "render unto Caesar", but I do not want the government to waste our wealth on all the stupid counterproductive shit they do. And I certainly don't want to "give up" my RIGHTS for safety.

Fuck those perverts that want to rule the world.

Onvacation says

mell says

Maybe he decided it would be better to stage a come back and build an resistance media and voice and win over more people as the country deteriorates under xiden.

Viva la resistance!

It's not about Trump. It's about our republic. We have all seen that the democrats want the country to be ruled.

Libertarians, like me, just want to be left alone to be successful. I don't mind paying taxes, "render unto Caesar", but I do not want the government to waste our wealth on all the stupid counterproductive shit they do. And I certainly don't want to "give up" my RIGHTS for safety.

Fuck those perverts that want to rule the world.

I don't think Trump is all do-gooder. In fact he is an original real state mobster. However he is more American than all of those globalists ever will be, and he knows he owes his fortune to the freedoms of this country, and maybe he even has a but of remorse for some people he screwed in the past as you don't become a billionaire by playing nicely all the time. I do believe he loves the US and hates to see the way it's going and I also believe he has enough type a narcissism to wanting to tackle such a shitshow where others would have taken the easy way out - he likes to be remembered. Overall he is a net positive for this country, and not everyone is an actor or shill, there are a lot of gray areas. Trump is as American as it can get and people understand the country will go to shit if it turns into a globalist-marxist freedom-depriving hellhole.

mell says

Overall he is a net positive for this country, and not everyone is an actor or shill, there are a lot of gray areas. Trump is as American as it can get and people understand the country will go to shit if it turns into a globalist-marxist freedom-depriving hellhole.

Agreed!

The fact is Trump could have done more, but I am happy with what he did do. He exposed the utter corruption of the entire government. Many we used to think were on the side of the American people have been exposed as public enemies.

Yes, that seems like a reasonable appraisal of Trump to me.

I'm happy we got him for four years. I was sure they'd kill him in his first year.

Trump permanently changed politics in the US, exposing the hate the media has for the public, and how deep the swamp goes.

A lot of people were red-pilled by Trump.

mell says

If Trump would have intervened he had to go all-in, i.e. pot commit. That means pulling all measures necessary incl. the military and with the help of the forces seize all material that would prove the clear interference. That's a huge matzeball. If any of this went wrong and he would get stopped out and doubts would emerge about whether his claims were factual and can be proven he could have well landed in jail for a long time or even before a tribunal. That's a huge gamble hardly anybody would take on. Maybe he decided it would be better to stage a come back and build an resistance media and voice and win over more people as the country deteriorates under xiden. Obviously the dems have a great opp here to cement the fraud but at the end of the day if the country goes to shit just bad enough they will be ousted.

I completely agree with this. The nuclear option was REALLY risky and I think Trump knew a big part of the public would hate him for it. It would appear as a military coup for an outcome he didn't like.