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Rin says

let's say Afghanistan (0% non-Muslim), Turkmenistan, etc.

There used to be buddhists in Afghanistan also, but the Taliban killed off any evidence that they were ever there when they destroyed the Bamiyan statues.

Rin says

Pamir mountain region

getting into and out of that area is terrible and its politically unstable.

I still think they are Mormons. When nobody is looking, they pull the covers off their statues of Brigham Young and Joseph Smith.

MMR says

There used to be buddhists in Afghanistan also, but the Taliban killed off any evidence that they were ever there when they destroyed the Bamiyan statues.

More than that. Balkh ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkh

Was the primer center for Buddhist and Zoroastrian studies of the ancient world. Think of it as Alexandria Eqypt's easternmost sister city.

And you guessed it, what the Rashidan Caliphate failed at ... Genghis Khan and his scumbag great-grand nephew, Timur, finished it off.

Right about this stage in the thread, there would ordinarily be gif of a huge penis emitting a groin shriveling ejaculation on enormous, jiggling garbanzos. Patnet has cleaned up its act. Count thy NSFW blessings.

My wife came in while I was reading and saw HunterTit's gif logo and pointed and said: "What are you looking at? What's THAT?". I moved it offscreen and just said it was somebody's icon and it is a mostly male site, boys will be boys. She said: "She was showing her vagina!" I said, no, just breasts. However, I perused the icon later in detail and it does, indeed, zip down and strip down to bagina level. The steely, wifely Eye of Sauron is never to be doubted.

I always tell her I am looking for content, and it's just all these other perverts who do this stuff.

The upside is that she has reconfirmed your heterosexuality to herself!

Ceffer says

mostly male site,

Mostly male site? OK, to any females out there, fess up.

Ceffer says

My wife came in while I was reading and saw HunterTit's gif logo and pointed and said: "What are you looking at? What's THAT?".

I have also had this happen.

Booger says

I have also had this happen.

With me it was my mom over Christmas at their house. I just told her I was reading a real estate investing website.

Hmmm, should I do something about this beyond the NSFW mark?

Rin says

that this idea that India has never had any conceptual notion of white ppl, until the British showed up in the 1700s is false.

India has been living next to whites for millennia!

Yup, the very concept of "Aryan Supremacy" was invented by the white nomads invading the sub-continent. An invading population that became the ruling minority of the land, hence the need to create a caste system for regime stability and safe-guarding the privileges of the ruling ethnically different minority population.

Reality says

Rin says

that this idea that India has never had any conceptual notion of white ppl, until the British showed up in the 1700s is false.

India has been living next to whites for millennia!

Yup, the very concept of "Aryan Supremacy" was invented by the white nomads invading the sub-continent. An invading population that became the ruling minority of the land, hence the need to create a caste system for regime stability and safe-guarding the privileges of the ruling ethnically different minority population.

Here's the thing, look at the border of British India and that of its neighbors. Why doesn't the color of the general population follow a gradient between all regions?

Using medieval to modern history as the guideline, not some pre-historic Atlantis/Lemuria fantasy of India seeding the entire world, let's look at the ppl of these areas

Here's Samarkand, Uzbekistan (was also a part of Soviet Bukhara)



Here's Almaty, Kazakhstan (yes, Nazarbayev forced everyone (Slavs included) to assimilate but that still doesn't explain the lack of South Asian looking ppl)



Here's Bukhara, which was its own nationality prior to Stalin breaking it up.



Here's Afghanistan



Leaving the demarcation of Soviet Central Asia (with Afghanistan), we enter the subcontinent

Here's Kashmir, the disputed land between India & Pakistan



And my favorite city, the capital of Pakistan ... Islam-A-Bad



Is it not obvious that the racial makeup of the entire subcontinent changes within miles of its border?

In other words, the whites disappear in India and the South Asians disappear within whitey (& turkic) boy lands, all within a very short distance of each other.

I'm waiting for the theory that Stalin sent all the Indians to the gulag.

Rin says

Using medieval to modern history as the guideline, not some pre-historic Atlantis/Lemuria fantasy of India seeding the entire world, let's look at the ppl of these areas

Why is everything an extreme with you. Who is talking about lemuria? Not me. Have you been to India? how did you come up with this logic of at the border people are white and in the sub-continent they are darker? Using skin tone and racial differentiator is one of the dumb logic. No scientist does that.

It is the features that differentiates the races. And that is the reason Aryan invasion/migration theory is a bust which no right thinking historian supports now.

If you go to India you will see people below the tropic of cancer you will find more darker skin.

indc says

It is the features that differentiates the races.

Are you talking about a British Kashmiri author, Salaman Rushdie?



Does this man not look Persian, Greek, Turkish, Russian, or all of the above?

Rin says

indc says

It is the features that differentiates the races.

Are you talking about a British Kashmiri author, Salaman Rushdie?



Does this man not look Persian, Greek, Turkish, Russian, or all of the above?

Why do you stress that he is kashmiri.



Do you see much difference between him and satya nadella.

Ok, since both of the above pics are balding, near old men, their features tend to become very similar over time. Aging does that to just about everyone.

Here are younger pics of them (with hair & some working face collagen) ...

Rushdie:



Nadella:



It's clear that Rushdie is more Persian/Central Asian looking and Nadella is more South Asian.

Rin says

Ok, since both of the above pics are balding, near old men, their features tend to become very similar over time. Aging does that to just about everyone.

Here are younger pics of them (with hair & some working face collagen) ...

Rushdie:



Nadella:



It's clear that Rushdie is more Persian/Central Asian looking and Nadella is more South Asian.

Since we decided skin color is not a differentiator. what do you mean by salman looks more persian than south asian. What is your definition of south asian look?

Ok, here's a Greek Orthodox minister, with relatively straight-ish nose, squarish (or rectangular) face, rounder eyes, etc vs a Hindu Pandit, with a flatter/wider nose, roundish face, epicantic eyes, etc. And yes, the contrast in skin tone does make a difference.

Rin says

Ok, here's a Greek Orthodox minister, with relatively straight-ish nose, squarish (or rectangular) face, rounder eyes, etc vs a Hindu Pandit, with a flatter/wider nose, roundish face, epicantic eyes, etc. And yes, the contrast in skin tone does make a difference.

Now you want to compare a greek person with someone in India. I guess someone in persia and Indian-subcontinent dont have much difference. Here is a model from India.

Ok, so your conclusion is that Indians are basically ... white ppl with a tan.

If so, then there's so such thing as Dravidian, it's all Indo-Aryan.

Instead of fighting Bollywood, perhaps you need to start an India, as the first tanned-white nation-state, outside of Sargon's Akkadia.

And that the nations around India, are the 2nd cluster of white ppl, the ones who've become more albino-zed with less pigmented over time.

Rin says

Ok, so your conclusion is that Indians are basically ... white ppl with a tan.

If so, then there's so such thing as Dravidian, it's all Indo-Aryan.

Instead of fighting Bollywood, perhaps you need to start an India, as the first tanned-white nation-state, outside of Sargon's Akkadia.

And that the nations around India, are the 2nd cluster of white ppl, the ones who've become more albino-zed with less pigmented over time.

Wow. you got my conclusion after so much discussion. And yes there is no Dravidian people. genetically whole of "mainland" India are all same. And there is no Indo-aryan. It is just knowledge spread out of India(and east asia) since there was a mature civilization present in India and east asia. And India is not the present border. It includes atleast Afghanistan and pakistan and eastern part of Iran.

Now lets discuss about europe's history. You know europe has been covered under snow until 7century BC I think. And Indian history is atleast 10000 yrs old ie 8000BC.

Rin says

Indians are basically ... white ppl with a tan

My own opinion is that this is true - on the paternal line.

Indo-European men with the R1a and R1b Y chromosomes went out from somewhere north of Iran and conquered vast territories, having children with the local women all along the way, so that today the R1* chromosomes are the most common all the way from Iceland to Bangladesh.

The reason the people look different is that the men took the local women.

Note that the languages are also clearly related all the way from Iceland to Bangladesh.

I really don't want to jump to this thread as "skin tone" is used for discrimination in India.
I am not sure How it started(May be British) but It was unfortunate.

Ignoring the discrimination part, There are people in my family who can pass as Caucasians or African.
Sometime that skin done difference is between siblings. This suggest high level of genetic mixing .. probably similar in Cuba etc.

I don't like to "ignore" anyone. I have one on ignore only, FuckShluck or something like that... I just am not made to take that much vulgarity.
The request is more to not use "porn in avatar" as It makes it easy to not click when time is not right.
Also if the thread is marked "NSFW" it would make life easy.

richwicks says

HunterTits says

What a bunch of FUCKING SNOWFLAKES.

NSFW should be for the images in the post, not comments.

Rin says

Can you ask huntertits to simply move that posting down, because this thread is actually important and not a Rin hoeing trek?

How da FUCK do I do that? @Rin. Oh please explain why.

And no. Nobody ask me do to do that because I'll just tell them outright fuck no: I refuse to submit to @election2020's Heckler's Veto bullshit. This is just another form of him harassing what I post. He's done it in the past several times. That's why I have the fucker on ignore. If he doesn't like my shit, he can put me on ignore as well.

So when I see election2020 starting to get kicked in his snowflake balls instead of the rest of you being played by him to jump on me, MAYBE I'll be more receptiv...

Perfectly understandable.
Threads I have started have clear title for easy to "ignore".
I care deeply about "survival of Sikhs" and present their viewpoint. Hindooos with help of their government have made it almost impossible to use any other platform for Sikhs.

Can You imagine that they got #sikhs banned from many platforms..Sikhs need to tell their story somewhere to counter Hindooo propaganda.

Rin says

I'm waiting for the theory that Stalin sent all the Indians to the gulag.

Not Stalin, but might be Vitamin-D Deficiency. In the northern part of the US, percentage of blacks in the local population is much lower than in southern US, and that is not entirely due to slavery (which would have driven blacks north to where slavery was abolished). Darker skin tone blocks out UV, and that results in Vitamin-D deficiency, which both weakens the person's immune system against respiratory diseases and weakens bone and teeth structure. Having lighter skin tone was/is an evolutionary adaptation to higher latitude environment; that convergent evolution must have happened multiple times (just like flight among animals: insects, birds and bats evolved the ability to flight separately): Neanderthals after coming out of Africa, CroMags after coming out of Africa, various Germanic tribes after invading Europe at the fall of Roman Empire (resulting in the vertical column of stratification in skin tone from Scandinavia to Italy), East Asians from lighter North Koreans to darker Vietnamese.

Patrick says

Indo-European men with the R1a and R1b Y chromosomes went out from somewhere north of Iran and conquered vast territories, having children with the local women all along the way, so that today the R1* chromosomes are the most common all the way from Iceland to Bangladesh.

This process may have happened multiple times repeatedly. The lighter skin tone enabled more efficient Vitamin-D generation under UV light from the Sun, resulting in both more resilience towards respiratory diseases and better teeth and bones (i.e. larger stature, which is also more energy efficient in colder high latitude / high altitude regions due to lower surface-to-volume ratio). The nomads coming out of the steppes north of the Caucasus had the additional advantage of milk as primary food source (calcium and Vitamin D) and mobility in warfare (horses). In pre-industrial time, logistics regarding troops' food supply was always a major difficulty: it was much easier for armies from starving areas to invade food-surplus areas than vice-versa, because moving food was difficulty in pre-industrial times. An invading army could use local food supply when arriving in a rich food-surplus area, whereas an army from the rich food-producing area would be starving to death in a desolate country. Swedish (under Karl XII), French (under Napoleon) and Germany (under Hitler) all failed in campaign against Russia for this very reason, whereas Mongols coming from the even colder and even more desolate Siberia had no difficulty conquering Russia. Likewise, a Dravidian army invading northern nomadic Vedic lands would never be able to stay and consolidate their gains because the original Vedic lands in the north couldn't feed such an invasion army; whereas an army from the desolate north could easily stay and occupy the food-rich south. For Europe, the map is turned side ways (due to warm ocean current warming up the western seaboard of Europe): the cold and dry interior in east Europe (today's European Russia) vs. the wet and warm food-rich western and southern Europe. Once a nomadic tribe consolidates its gains in the new food rich area, its aristocracy gradually becomes sedantary (and their skin tone gradually gets darker in order to adapt to the new environment warding off skin cancer), and after a few hundred years becomes ripe for invasion by its distant cousins from the desolate ancestral land again (and the poor schmucks in the desolate area would keep trying until they succeeded, while always be able to withdraw to desolate area / high broken hills like the Caucasus and Afganistan / Iranian Plateau after each failed attempt). Just because "two" people are related doesn't mean one can not "conquer" the other. It's best not to understand "conquest" in terms of glory but in terms of pestilence (befalling the corrupt).

Patrick says

Rin says

Indians are basically ... white ppl with a tan

My own opinion is that this is true - on the paternal line.

Indo-European men with the R1a and R1b Y chromosomes went out from somewhere north of Iran and conquered vast territories, having children with the local women all along the way, so that today the R1* chromosomes are the most common all the way from Iceland to Bangladesh.

The reason the people look different is that the men took the local women.

Note that the languages are also clearly related all the way from Iceland to Bangladesh.

Do you have dates on that migration. If not just drawing lines makes it just a theory.



this has thousand of years scale.

@Rin,

Math algebra formulae are atleast from 1500 bce

https://twitter.com/jcrabtree/status/1379284693581922308

IBM REVEALED the West owes it maths to India and it's ZERO!

indc says

@Rin,

Math algebra formulae are atleast from 1500 bce

https://twitter.com/jcrabtree/status/1379284693581922308

IBM REVEALED the West owes it maths to India and it's ZERO!

There was no Hindoo or India 1500 BCE.
More "Cow Soda" today?

indc says

IBM REVEALED the West owes it maths to India and it's ZERO!

In 1500 BC, the "west" was Egypt and Mesopotamia (Akkadian Empire).

election2020 says

There was no Hindoo or India 1500 BCE.

Ok, so what was "India" in terms of the borders established between Ashoka's Empire and the British Raj, back in 1500 BC?

indc says

Do you have dates on that migration. If not just drawing lines makes it just a theory.

Something like from 4000BC to 2000BC.

No way is it just a theory. The genetics and the language prove that everywhere from Iceland to Bangladesh was occupied by Indo-European men.

Patrick says

Indo-European men with the R1a and R1b Y chromosomes went out from somewhere north of Iran and conquered vast territories, having children with the local women all along the way, so that today the R1* chromosomes are the most common all the way from Iceland to Bangladesh.

its a little more complicated than that. European Western Hunter gatherers, who were the original inhabitants of Europe, also carried R1b:

Excavations in E. Europe showed that these individuals who lived about 8000 years before present were estimated to be of 85% WHG and 15% EHG descent. The males at these sites carried exclusively haplogroup R1b1a and I (mostly subclades of I2a) haplotypes. mtDNA belonged mostly to U (particularly subclades of U5 and U4).

So you're saying that R1a and b precedes the Indo-European languages in Europe? Could be.

But it's still clear that R1a and b have very similar territories to places where Indo-European languages are spoken.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_migrations

There was lot of mixing during Alexander's escapades near India border. After his near loss n then slim victory in current Pakistan area, they travelled n mixed significantly. He realized that across border 3x army with lit of elephants awaited , so he stopped there. Also his army was tired after long n many wars


There was lot of exchange of women to bring peace. Chandragupt -ashokas granddad, was married to greek lady.
https://angel2100.wordpress.com/2017/02/13/helena-the-greek-mauryan-princess/

KgK one says

There was lot of mixing during Alexander's escapades near India border. After his near loss n then slim victory in current Pakistan area, they travelled n mixed significantly. He realized that across border 3x army with lit of elephants awaited , so he stopped there. Also his army was tired after long n many wars

Here's what you're missing, much of Alexander's army, on the way to India were Persian soldiers of fortune (a.k.a mercenaries), not the original troops from Macedonia which had defeated Darius during earlier campaigns.

So if someone married a so-called Greek woman, it's not a lot different from marrying let's say a Persian woman but from Anatolia, not necessarily Greece.

Rin says

indc says

IBM REVEALED the West owes it maths to India and it's ZERO!

In 1500 BC, the "west" was Egypt and Mesopotamia (Akkadian Empire).

election2020 says

There was no Hindoo or India 1500 BCE.

Ok, so what was "India" in terms of the borders established between Ashoka's Empire and the British Raj, back in 1500 BC?

I don't know. Invaders changed the history to fit their needs. The worse was creation of Hindooo and used by invaders to demean Bharti civilization and destruction of its ancient history and traditions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harappa

How did we go from "Harappa" the most advance civilization to no toilets in India today.
In most recent history:
Khalsa empire was 100% literate and most prosperous(It was free for only 50 odd years) and British had literacy only of elites.
US after revolutionary war and independence become super power, which it will lose soon as it is not free anymore.
(British did same to Sikh Empire what globalists are doing to US.. Take away education(or make it dirty and useless) and weapons.. British ordered burning of books and banned Gatka)
....
Bottom line is Freedom and better leadership can do miracles and it has done in many countries.Once you have that humans are industrious and they can create "zero" or other math very quickly.

This is for Hindoo who try to tar me as lefty:
https://twitter.com/alapmat/status/1379819970897514499
A communist is a Brahmin in other skin.

HunterTits says

@Ceffer ^^^

It's fine. I just tell my wife I am so glad that I am not like all those other guys, leering and drooling at gratuitous pussy all the time. She needs to be extra grateful for me.