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Bitcoin Misinformation


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2020 Nov 10, 10:01am   137,021 views  2,177 comments

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In my opinion, it’s a colossal pump-and-dump scheme, the likes of which the world has never seen. In a pump-and-dump game, promoters “pump” up the price of a security creating a speculative frenzy, then “dump” some of their holdings at artificially high prices. And some cryptocurrencies are pure frauds. Ernst & Young estimates that 10 percent of the money raised for initial coin offerings has been stolen.

The losers are ill-informed buyers caught up in the spiral of greed. The result is a massive transfer of wealth from ordinary families to internet promoters. And “massive” is a massive understatement — 1,500 different cryptocurrencies now register over $300 billion of “value.”

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/24/17275202/bitcoin-scam-cryptocurrency-mining-pump-dump-fraud-ico-value

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1357   Onvacation   2021 Apr 25, 10:51am  

Fortwaynemobile says
Patrick start selling patnet coins lol. If everyone can just invent currencies, why not us?

I tried that. Patnet readers are too smart for that.

Onvacation says
I'm starting a new cryptocurrency. I am selling them at a discount while I set up the blockchain (a free open source technology where a continuously growing list of records, called blocks, are linked and secured using cryptography).

If you send me a dollar now I will send you a unique (kinda) sequence of bits (0s and 1s) when I start mining the blockchain.
GetRichQuickCoins, the currency of the future!
1358   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 25, 12:17pm  

Onvacation says
Fortwaynemobile says
Patrick start selling patnet coins lol. If everyone can just invent currencies, why not us?

I tried that. Patnet readers are too smart for that.


@Patrick, onvacation,
how about this: We create a penny-stock type of coin that has some catchy name that caters to super leftist people. I wouldnt want to create a coin to screw Patnetters but I would love a coin to attract investors that support Antifa/BLM.

Here are some suggestions that would sucker in the right crowd:

AntifaCoin
BLMCoin
DefundPoliceCoin
BanGunsCoin
BlackMoonCoin
BlackPowerToken

the names actually dont have to have "coin" or "token" in it.
1359   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Apr 25, 12:24pm  

Bitcoin says
AntifaCoin
BLMCoin
DefundPoliceCoin
BanGunsCoin
BlackMoonCoin
BlackPowerToken


Now you gonna sucker all the BLM kids with these names.

All right guys let’s do BLM coin. Let’s see where it goes! Who is into this thing?
1360   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 25, 1:15pm  

Fortwaynemobile says
Now you gonna sucker all the BLM kids with these names.

All right guys let’s do BLM coin. Let’s see where it goes! Who is into this thing?


100% in here.

not just BLM kids, but also antifa and all the other leftists.
"Support our movement by holding BLMcoin. Buy BLMcoin and start changing America now."

We'll pump the living shit out of this coin on all BLM, Antifa websites/forums.
1361   Patrick   2021 Apr 25, 2:27pm  

Lol, I like this!
1362   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 25, 7:03pm  

Patrick says
Lol, I like this!


Well, we are going to be fuckin rich on this. I've got everything we need....a software engineer that can write the code, me doing the marketing, etc,
We just need to coordinate on a private forum........

who else is in?
1363   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Apr 25, 7:21pm  

Bitcoin says
Patrick says
Lol, I like this!


Well, we are going to be fuckin rich on this. I've got everything we need....a software engineer that can write the code, me doing the marketing, etc,
We just need to coordinate on a private forum........

who else is in?


I’m in
1364   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 25, 8:42pm  

@Patrick @Onvacation
@Socal2 @WookieMan

who else? what better way to get rich then pulling money from Antifa scum?
1365   PeopleUnited   2021 Apr 25, 8:58pm  

Come to think of it, isn’t all “crypto” just an elaborate confidence scheme? Like a spreadsheet makes it any less ridiculous than selling the Brooklyn Bridge.
1366   AmericanKulak   2021 Apr 25, 8:58pm  



What a great storehouse of value.

Imagine in the USD dropped 7% in an hour, then gained 10% a few hours later.
1367   Eric Holder   2021 Apr 26, 9:11am  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says


What a great storehouse of value.

Imagine in the USD dropped 7% in an hour, then gained 10% a few hours later.


Great payment vehicle too: the cost of every transaction is unpredictable and it can take hours to complete.
1368   Patrick   2021 Apr 26, 9:50am  

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/26/turkish-bitcoin-exchange-vebitcoin-collapses-amid-crypto-crackdown.html

A second bitcoin exchange collapses in Turkey amid crackdown on cryptocurrencies
1369   Eric Holder   2021 Apr 26, 10:15am  

Patrick says
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/26/turkish-bitcoin-exchange-vebitcoin-collapses-amid-crypto-crackdown.html

A second bitcoin exchange collapses in Turkey amid crackdown on cryptocurrencies


Noooooooo!
1370   WookieMan   2021 Apr 26, 11:11am  

Bitcoin says
@Patrick @Onvacation
@Socal2 @WookieMan

who else? what better way to get rich then pulling money from Antifa scum?

I appreciate that you're finally admitting what crypto is. Problem is Antifa "participants?" don't make any money. Hard to extract money from people with none.
1371   Onvacation   2021 Apr 26, 1:44pm  

So,

To get rich on crypto you need fools to buy it. Who would be that foolish?
1372   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 27, 10:12am  

Onvacation says
Who


Tesla bought 1.5B USD worth of Bitcoin.....they HODL 90% of it and only sold 10%.

Smart. Thanks Tesla! I am 100% HODL'ing my BTC.....i did sell my Binance coin, Dogecoin....:)
1373   Patrick   2021 Apr 28, 11:52am  

https://twitter.com/TikTokInvestors/status/1385365742506364929

TikToker makes ‘scamcoin’ as a joke and within an hour it’s worth ~$70mln lmao.
1374   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 28, 12:49pm  

Patrick says
https://twitter.com/TikTokInvestors/status/1385365742506364929

TikToker makes ‘scamcoin’ as a joke and within an hour it’s worth ~$70mln lmao.


I am pretty sure we can make lots of money by creating BLMcoin and selling it to antifa and other liberals.
1375   WookieMan   2021 Apr 28, 1:57pm  

Bitcoin says
I am pretty sure we can make lots of money by creating BLMcoin and selling it to antifa and other liberals.

I'm just happy you're admitting what crypto is finally. It's not a store of value per your own comment quoted here. MAKE money, not a store of value. AKA take money from others.
1376   Eric Holder   2021 Apr 28, 2:06pm  

WookieMan says
MAKE money, not a store of value. AKA take money from others.


1377   Bitcoin   2021 Apr 28, 8:20pm  

Eric Holder says
AKA take money from others.


thats what trading is. A transfer from dumb money to smart money. 90% of traders lose in the stock market for instance.
In Crypto, a ton of dumb money will buy into shitcoins and their portfolios will go up significantly (temporarily). The majority of shitcoin holders will ride the ship up and down because greed kicks in and they fail to DCA out of their positions.
Bitcoin is not a pump and dump to me. But its a waste of time to argue about it.....either you like investing in BTC or you dont. My holdings in Bitcoin and Altcoins have been mega profitable on paper. At some point I will start taking profits on my larger holdings. I already sold all of my Binance coin and Dogecoin.
1378   Onvacation   2021 May 9, 11:00am  

FBI Puts Warning Signs on Bitcoin ATMs in This US County Following a Scam
The Cuyahoga County Scam Squad in Cleveland and the FBI are collaborating to alert the public about scams involving bitcoin, News 5 Cleveland reported this week. Old scams ranging from grandparent’s scam, explained Sheryl Harris, Director of the Cuyahoga County Department of Consumer Affairs.

FBI Special Agent Vicki Anderson warned that once the victims sent bitcoin, “it’s almost impossible to get it back so the best we can do is prevention and that’s why we’re trying to get the word out.”

The news outlet described that “Signs will soon be put up on bitcoin ATMs across the county,” noting that “The signs are intended to make people think twice before going through with a transaction because they could be caught in a scam.”

https://otcpm24.com/2021/05/07/fbi-puts-warning-signs-on-bitcoin-atms-in-this-us-county-following-a-scam-regulation-bitcoin-news/
1379   Bitcoin   2021 May 9, 6:03pm  

If you fall for this type of scam, you deserve to be scammed:

https://otcpm24.com/2021/05/07/fbi-puts-warning-signs-on-bitcoin-atms-in-this-us-county-following-a-scam-regulation-bitcoin-news/
"A man who almost became a victim of a scam asking for bitcoin told the news outlet that he got a call from someone who sounded just like his son, who said he was hurt in a car accident, got thrown in jail, and needed bond money.

The man and his wife were instructed to withdraw $9,000 in cash, go to a bitcoin ATM, then use the QR code the scammer provided to deposit the cash. The man said that the shopkeeper where the ATM resided came up and said “can I help you?” When he explained that he needed to send money to an attorney with the bitcoin ATM, the shopkeeper told him that he was getting scammed. The couple then called their son and confirmed it was a scam."

bawahahah
1380   Patrick   2021 May 9, 9:42pm  

Bitcoin says
bitcoin ATM


I had never heard of this, so I looked it up.

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin/atm/

Do Bitcoin ATMs Give Cash?

Some BTMs work both ways – meaning they can dispense Bitcoin in exchange for cash and they can also dispense cash in exchange for Bitcoin. However, most models work only for buying Bitcoin.


How much fee do Bitcoin ATMs charge?

Bitcoin ATMs charge an average fee of 8.93%. However, this is a rough average and the fees vary between ATMs. Make sure to read the instructions on the machine before starting the process.




Two screaming problems there:

1. Most just take cash and don't give cash? Hmmm, makes it sound like they really prefer cash over Bitcoin.
2. 8.93% is ridiculous.
1382   Bitcoin   2021 May 10, 6:52am  

Patrick says
Do Bitcoin ATMs Give Cash?

Some BTMs work both ways – meaning they can dispense Bitcoin in exchange for cash and they can also dispense cash in exchange for Bitcoin. However, most models work only for buying Bitcoin.



a Bitcoin ATM is not an ATM.

A Bitcoin ATM has nothing to do with a bank/bank account. Its a standalone device/kiosk for people that do not have a bank account or want to deposit cash to purchase Bitcoin without a bank involved.

Why would I want to provide this service? Only if I can generate revenue. High fees should be expected.

There is only limited supply of digital gold....we are in the midst of gold rush 2.0 (hint: high inflation environment)
1383   Onvacation   2021 May 17, 9:52pm  

Bitcoin Mining Expert Explains why Generating “Clean” BTC Blocks Can Be Extremely Challenging


He points out that many BTC addresses have been matched with “real-world identities” but “all or even most certainly have not.” This means that choosing certain transactions “based on who the senders might become little more than a guessing game,” Voell adds.

He also notes that the only way “to guarantee that all transaction fees in a block are ‘clean’ is to mine zero transactions unless the miners opts to only process transactions from a whitelist of Bitcoin addresses.” He explains that any transaction that “may later be discovered to have connections to a criminal or sanctioned entity ruins the entire ‘clean’ block effort.”

As noted by Voell:

“Simply avoiding addresses on a blacklist is insufficient. Without an address whitelist, only empty blocks can be clean blocks. Even after including zero transactions, a ‘clean’ block still isn’t safe. The address that receives the coinbase transaction with the block’s mining subsidy is, of course, public and can receive transactions.”

Voell further notes that any other BTC wallet that sends even the smallest amount of Bitcoin to the coinbase address “taints the bitcoins and sabotages the entire endeavor.” He explains that “unlike the transaction problem, where a miner can simply opt to exclude all transactions, preventing ‘tainted’ bitcoins from being sent to the coinbase address is impossible.”

https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2021/05/175453-bitcoin-mining-expert-explains-why-generating-clean-btc-blocks-can-be-extremely-challenging/
1384   Onvacation   2021 May 17, 9:54pm  

Bitcoin still depends on all of you HODL'ers buying the dip.

Miners gotta eat.
1385   Bitcoin   2021 May 18, 8:25am  

Onvacation says
Bitcoin still depends on all of you HODL'ers buying the dip.


Exactly! HODL is the best strategy. I remember when people were happy about Bitcoin being under 20k! It will never go to 20k again!!! Look at it now....over 40k :)
1386   Onvacation   2021 May 21, 8:00am  

PeopleUnited says
Come to think of it, isn’t all “crypto” just an elaborate confidence scheme? Like a spreadsheet makes it any less ridiculous than selling the Brooklyn Bridge.

Pretty much.

The waters have been muddied because US currency is fiat. I guess the young dupes figure if the government can back dollars with nothing why can't the cryptos.

I'm still selling getrichquick coins but am considering renaming them to something more subtle.
1387   Onvacation   2021 May 27, 10:40am  

Bitcoin rises to reclaim the $40,000 level as the cryptocurrency tries to recover from brutal selloff
1388   Eric Holder   2021 May 27, 11:30am  

Onvacation says
Bitcoin rises to reclaim the $40,000 level as the cryptocurrency tries to recover from brutal selloff


It's a buying opportunity!
1389   Onvacation   2021 May 31, 9:12pm  

PINK FLOYD PARODY - CRYPTOCURRENCY NUMB

"If you HODL now, your coins will reach the moon!"
1390   Bitcoin   2021 Jun 3, 7:51am  

Onvacation says
"If you HODL now, your coins will reach the moon!"


I'd agree. This has been the strategy. Buy and hold. I bought 1.9 BTC last year and more than doubled my money. With Altcoins I am sitting on 10x.
During this massive bull market, buy the dips and wait.....>>> HODL.
1391   Bitcoin   2021 Jun 3, 7:52am  

Eric Holder says


It's a buying opportunity!


This guy gets it!
1393   AmericanKulak   2021 Jun 3, 9:40pm  

Bitcoin such a great store of value, a single Musk Tweet of a Linkin Park Buttcoin Meme causes this:

1394   Bitcoin   2021 Jun 4, 7:30am  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
Bitcoin such a great store of value


Could not agree more. I put about 30k into BTC last year and it more than doubled. Imagine I would have my funds sitting in a savings account. I would have lost purchasing power due to inflation.
1395   Onvacation   2021 Jun 4, 9:53am  

1 year
Low:$8,975.53
High:$64,863.10
1396   Bitcoin   2021 Jun 4, 10:09am  

Onvacation says
1 year
Low:$8,975.53
High:$64,863.10


What an insane performance!! I remember when people said "who pays 20k for 1 Bitcoin"? Now those people would be jumping up and down if they could buy BTC at 20K
It just shows....HODL is the way to go with digital gold.

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